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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread

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North List Management Team discussion.

We have a deficiency in talls down back, so let’s trade for a Ruck/Forward that we aren’t desperate for……….

What the **** are they going to do with these guys if Edwards comes on quickly?

Play them in the VFL or delist?

Seems a perplexing decision to chase a player and pay through the nose for a role that might not be a real need?
 
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North List Management Team discussion.

We have a deficiency in talls down back, so let’s trade for a Ruck/Forward that we date to desperate for.

What the fu** are they going to do with these guys if Edwards comes on quickly?

Play them in the VFL or delist?

Seems a perplexing decision to chase a player and pay through the nose for a role that might not be a real need?
tbh the way we're going I reckon Edwards could kick a few games of 4+ and not get a run in the seniors.
 

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10 year contract? Geeze, I know old mate knightmare was pumping him up, but thats a Buddy contract, not a second year forward who hasn't proven anything yet
 
Lol there is a lot of pulling the trigger with the negativity.. ffs can we atleast give it more than one week before we declare Lazz and CCJ a bust..

I'm not writing either of them off. I was just saying the Lazz (who I rate highly) was an odd pick considering we'd picked Phillips & Powell and we already had a number of smaller mids on the list.

CCJ imo we still paid overs for. We shouldn't have paid overs considering we still had the PSD in play, and also considering we were sending a best 22 player (in tarrant) to them.
 
I'm not writing either of them off. I was just saying the Lazz (who I rate highly) was an odd pick considering we'd picked Phillips & Powell and we already had a number of smaller mids on the list.

CCJ imo we still paid overs for. We shouldn't have paid overs considering we still had the PSD in play, and also considering we were sending a best 22 player (in tarrant) to them.
I thought we picked Lazz with an eye on the forward line as much as anything else. He and Phoenix Spicer were the highest rated players in testing for agility that year.
 

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Let’s hope our Recruiters are scouring the land for a State League KPD?

Surely given the opportunity to use the mid season draft this year, this would be our number 1 priority.

I’m not talking about a mature age stop gap, but someone around that 24-26 age bracket who we could give a shot at becoming a long term option.
 
I thought we picked Lazz with an eye on the forward line as much as anything else. He and Phoenix Spicer were the highest rated players in testing for agility that year.

"strong inside mid" as a junior mate. Only played a little big of half forward in his under age year.

Lazz tested off the charts for agility, so maybe they did see him as a half forward.
 
Knowing full well, this suggestion will be received with a mixture of derision, disbelief, disdain and any other negative reaction starting with d, may I suggest that we consider turning either of X or CCJ into a key defender.

Both are 200 cm or taller so maybe too tall, but the main query would be their pace and if they are quick enough to play that role. It would be an experiment that would be bound to see several goals kicked by opposition forwards, but the instruction would be, "just follow your man to the marking contest and spoil; we don't care how many times you get outmarked and how many goals get kicked on you.".

If either have got the required pace then in time it will click. They are only marginally taller than Robbie Tarrant, once a forward who made the successful transition and Majak, (who I also called for this to happen with and received the aforesaid reactions) while *dustin *fletcher at 198cm was a pretty handy defender.
 
I'm doing an about turn on best available this draft assuming we track lowly.

The list has structural needs that should probably be addressed now to hold us in good long term stead.

More rebounding HBs, more opportunistic small forwards and some key defenders.

Maybe some of these can come via trade or DFA.

We have 3x potential rebounding HBs under 30. Perez's durability remains an issue. Goater might be a guy who shuffles around and AFL field to find best spot, not convinced he's 'just' a HB. Which leaves Miller as 1x genuine option unless Scott et al are repositioned down there ongoing.

We have Curtis all on his lonesome as a creative crumber. Need more options to create possible variations in team structure and ground level potency.

At least 2 KPDs need to get on the list too IMO. 1x replacement for Tarrant's spot and at least 1 additional. We're already seeing that we're exposed in that area very quickly with only 1 bona fide high grade KPD on the list.
 

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"strong inside mid" as a junior mate. Only played a little big of half forward in his under age year.

Lazz tested off the charts for agility, so maybe they did see him as a half forward.
I'm sure there was talk about him playing as a small forward. I might check his page.
 
“Charlie is a really driven inside/outside midfielder who can also play forward," National Recruiting Manager, Mark Finnigan said.

There is also a graphic there with "Midfielder/Small Forward" as a header describing him. That would be where I got that idea from.

But honestly, we have Curtis now but we also had Mahony, Lazz and Atu who all have plenty of potential as small forwards and two of them don't seem to be getting a run there. I get developing Lazz as a mid in the VFL cos he does have talent but we have a strong midfield and not too many effective small forwards.

Our guys are all medium forwards and every one of them is 6'2" or 1.88m+ except Taylor. He is 6'1&3/4" (1.87m).

(Edited to add Mahony.)
 
“Charlie is a really driven inside/outside midfielder who can also play forward," National Recruiting Manager, Mark Finnigan said.

There is also a graphic there with "Midfielder/Small Forward" as a header describing him. That would be where I got that idea from.

But honestly, we have Curtis now but we also had Mahony, Lazz and Atu who all have plenty of potential as small forwards and two of them don't seem to be getting a run there. I get developing Lazz as a mid in the VFL cos he does have talent but we have a strong midfield and not too many effective small forwards.

Our guys are all medium forwards and every one of them is 6'2" or 1.88m+ except Taylor. He is 6'1&3/4" (1.87m).

(Edited to add Mahony.)

Interesting to think about him as a small fwd, I think if he can hit the packs and crumb it might be a good thing, he has the work rate
 
Interesting to think about him as a small fwd, I think if he can hit the packs and crumb it might be a good thing, he has the work rate
He can chase too. He may struggle with some tackling but if gets the pressure on then that is a good start.
 
Knowing full well, this suggestion will be received with a mixture of derision, disbelief, disdain and any other negative reaction starting with d, may I suggest that we consider turning either of X or CCJ into a key defender.

Both are 200 cm or taller so maybe too tall, but the main query would be their pace and if they are quick enough to play that role. It would be an experiment that would be bound to see several goals kicked by opposition forwards, but the instruction would be, "just follow your man to the marking contest and spoil; we don't care how many times you get outmarked and how many goals get kicked on you.".

If either have got the required pace then in time it will click. They are only marginally taller than Robbie Tarrant, once a forward who made the successful transition and Majak, (who I also called for this to happen with and received the aforesaid reactions) while *dustin *fletcher at 198cm was a pretty handy defender.
They are too big and too slow for that role. Comben is a better fit but he is rightly earmarked for a CHF role and we should make that work if his body allows.

In 2-3 years I see a role for maybe one of X of CCJ assuming Comben can stay fit and Edwards comes on.
 
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