List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[Dr Spaceman]

Dam closed
My eyes and all I could see was Dunstan and Billing’s [emoji23]

You may need to seek professional help [emoji33]

 

[stavro#4]

 

[St Steady]

i like the cut of longs jib, from his first game

they have fiorini, dunno how they rank against each other on a trade table but id take him as compo

 

[SaintyMcSaintface]

What would Darcy Gardiner

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Darcy Gardiner

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.0

1star

do for us?

 

[Mowman]

You may need to seek professional help [emoji33]

Think you're right

 

[Mowman]

What would Darcy Gardiner do for us?

help out at Sandy

 

[sunny3193]

If they get relocated, we won't. If we get relocated, they won't.

The meditations of Sun Ra.

 

[stavro#4]

help out at Sandy

Plays every week when fit for Brisbane.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Well that's embarrassing - definitely the last the time I'll listen to my supposed "ITK" mates from Adelaide!!!!

 

[Mowman]

Plays every week when fit for Brisbane.

dont think he is a high need
Watched him a few times late in the year he is a GOP

 

[bergholt]

If we are actually going to hit the draft Fiorini is owed 600k/1 year.

Suns are happy to do a Brodie type deal for someone to take him.

A good second round pick. I’d do it.

WTF happened to Fiorini? Didn't he have like 40 touches in a game last year?

 

[stavro#4]

dont think he is a high need
Watched him a few times late in the year he is a GOP

Worth watching him tomorrow night against 2 of the best.

 

[John2010362340]

What would Darcy Gardiner do for us?

Him or Battle.. I’m going Battle personally, but I can see the argument for Gardiner..

 

[Yawkey way]

Long want's to go to Suns. Keep your second rounder.

Think he’s saying fiorini was a second rounder in the draft and the suns want his $600,000 gone like Brodie last year who they paid Fremantle to take.

 

[lewdogs]

Collingwood set for a very busy trade period. McStay, Frampton, Hill, anyone else coming in?
A few going out too.

 

[PostmanBish]

He's always been low possession, sometimes high impact. His differences from others at the club are not essentially football skills. They're things that can be associated to any contact sport.

Intentional, high impact, low possession ... 3 weeks.

 

[Curunir]

I don't rate Darcy Gardner at all. Terrible with the ball, turns it over consistently. Ok as a stopper but nothing special.

 

[Curunir]

Worth watching him tomorrow night against 2 of the best.

He was awful against Richmond

 

[Bertha]

Wide open to rorting, what would you suggest should happen to players who are due to retire, ( ie Frankln )?

I'm not sure ot would be that open to rorting because if the player didn't want to be traded out, they're still going to want to get paid what they're entitled and their manager too - if clubs started playing funny buggers then player managers will become hard to deal with and clubs will be limited in getting players traded in.

In terms of Franklin, I'm not sure what you're referring ro, but with him specifically, the AFL told Sydney at the time that even if he retired, his salary would count towards their cap for the life of that 10 year contract because they wanted hom at GWS and were pissed about it.

If we looked at Hill, the $900k p.a. is an anchor in our negotiations. If he wants to go, I just think we shouldn't be burdened with that as it should be up to Hill and his manager to negotiate new terms and we deal at club level with North to satisfy a trade as compensation for losing him - what we paid him should be irrelevant.

 

[Bertha]

I've said numerous times, that I would want Hill to stay on our list and is a required player.

All I am saying is that the words on the AFL website saying "there are no contract discussions between Hill and the Saints" is an interesting use of words.

I'm happy that you report these new "facts".

To be fair, that article says no trade talks, not no contract talks - there's a difference and I think that's causing the conflict here

 

[PoppedCorn]

Clark will stay

 

[bergholt]

I'm not sure ot would be that open to rorting because if the player didn't want to be traded out, they're still going to want to get paid what they're entitled and their manager too - if clubs started playing funny buggers then player managers will become hard to deal with and clubs will be limited in getting players traded in.

In terms of Franklin, I'm not sure what you're referring ro, but with him specifically, the AFL told Sydney at the time that even if he retired, his salary would count towards their cap for the life of that 10 year contract because they wanted hom at GWS and were pissed about it.

Main problem is that the contracts are effectively with the AFL rather than with individual clubs, and if they AFL rocks the boat on them too much then they risk the AFLPA deciding it's time to challenge AFL contracts in court. (The AFL has been pretty convinced they'd lose that under restraint of trade or something for a long time.)

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Bloody hell tried

All I got was McCartan and Alison FML

When I close my eyes I see a juicy future 4th rounder for Hill.
I have no faith they will deliver a premiership with this Administration and list.
Its back to the bottom and start again I feel.

 

[Joffaboy]

I completely understand your point, I'm happy the club are saying that Hill is a required player. Lets hope the media speculation about this slows down.

Why? The media speculates, that's what it does.

So at least you now understand these points

1) Saints say Hill is a required player
2) Hill is contracted for 2 more years.
3) there is NO NEED for Saints to have contract talks as Hill is already contracted
4) Clarkson met Hill
5) Hill met Simkons
6) Hill has not talked to the Saints about a trade.

How does this equate to some on here repeating time after time after time that

'The Saints are pushing out Hill'. In what deluded universe does the above equate to the above statement?

Hill may well leave but for some on here to blatantly lie and spread bs ( not directly aimed at you) just to enhance their own skewed agenda is mind boggling.

Hope Hill goes BTW, but that is not the argument.

 

[St Kilda Death]

WTF happened to Fiorini? Didn't he have like 40 touches in a game last year?

Finds it.
Can find possessions no doubt about it.

Absolute ball butcher.
If he has 40 probably hit a teammate 5 times.