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Maybe, but Tex, Fog, TT, Rankine, Rachele, Pedlar, Keays, Murphy and Ned all appear to be ahead of him for forward positions. Dowling might also be for 2024.
Worth mentioning just in case, the phantom on the Saturday/Sunday before the draft is obviously usually be the most telling re: player links
There’s a bit of chat on our board over the last 24h but I heard it well before that (whenever I started posting to you blokes about it). I’m not in any way saying the Crows have indicated they will accept a deal but I’m certainly expecting them to have to make a decision. I think all it’s going to come down to how the Crows rate the 2024 draft and your plans around Welsh and possibly Draper.
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Yes ....it's a series of deductions by Twomey
Might it involve any of our first 3 picks this year?
It would centre around pick 10 and our F1. Based on the ladder positions end of this year 10,14,20,F1(9) for 23,58,F1(1),F2(19) is about as fair as it gets based on points (not the be all and end all just a guide) and I think fills a need for both clubs and would at least be a starting point for discussions.
I guess it probably depends on whether there's a player we're really keen on is there at pick 10 or not (re. whether we trade 10 or 14) and whether WC can get the player they're after at 14.
Thought you might be quick to sign off on that one, don’t think we’d offer it but something that looks like that. There would be no deal done without pick 10. It could also be as simple as 10 for 23 and F2 which on points and expected finishing position is a good deal for you and would help for Welsh points next year. Hopefully it’s not 10,F1 for F1…
I absolutely hate that, so thanks for the suggestion.
Piss off.
That's horrible as well.
Geez you must see something in our list that no one else does!
why would we trade back 13 spots from 10 to 23 (closer to 30 really) for at best pick 21 next year?? Thats ridiculously bad
The Carlton and Crows Stocker trade should be about the right level. There was probably more difference between us and Carlton then than us and WCE now.
I think we'd take the chance on getting in ahead of a welsh bid next year, particularly with it looking like SA talent available at the pointy end. If curtin slides past 10 there would have to be an asterix on him we dont know about as well.
Maybe but I see a lot of Jordan Dawson in Curtin. I personally would be stoked if Curtin fell to our pick.
Picks 10, 14 and F1(12) is unders for a top 2 pick (probably pick 1) and F2(19). 20 for 23 and 58 is whatever. Take Goad and then let Hamish loose on a late pick.
10 and 14 probably gets them 2 of Tholstrup (slight reach at 10), Hardeman and Collard. Plenty of WA kids could make sense at 20. Also gets quality kids in now, which they need.
hate is a strong word for the suggestion. What would we give up for pick one this year? Easily 10,14 (the picks In 20‘s cancel each other out almost and are not core). But Weagles can’t trade F1 and F2 can they? Otherwise the deal is actually in our favour IMO meaning we get a likely top 2 player next year (and the power of top picks - see GCS this year - allowing optionality in case Draper was our target and “only” likely to go pick 5 for example). and 3 third rounders next year for Welsh and/or bundle to trade up for another first round pick.
Yes, this one is horrible no way we do 10 for 23 and F2.
No way we trade 10 without your future 1 being involved. 10 for 23 and F2 is a horrid horrid deal and no sane Crows List Mgr would accept that, forget points - not only are they mis-priced but we already have 2 x F2 for Welsh which easily covers his 10-18 likely range
Mate. I’m not suggesting we’d specifically offer that deal or that you’d accept it, the point I’m making is it could be complex with a lot of picks or simple with not many. I actually agree with most of the posters in here that given it will be on draft night, unfortunately Crows will have the leverage and 10 with a swap of F1s is the most likely if a deal is done. I was hoping a deal would have been done in the last week similar to the one that was accepted almost immediately by your colleague which would have not leveraged either team.
