List Mgmt. 2023 Draft/Trade/FA thread

[Scythe]

Seems a good time to pin this:


OOC players:

• Michael Hibberd (retired)
• Deakyn Smith (delisted)
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield
• Jake Melksham (delisted, will be re-drafted as a rookie)
• Luke Dunstan (retired)
• James Jordon (signed with Sydney as a Free Agent)
• Kye Turner (delisted)

Traded out:

• James Harmes (Bulldogs)
• Brodie Grundy (Sydney)

Traded in:

• Tom Fullarton (Brisbane)
• Jack Billings (St Kilda)
• Shane McAdam (Adelaide)

Drafted:

• Caleb Windsor (Pick 7)
• Koltyn Tholstrup (Pick 13)
• Kynan Brown (Rookie)

 

[Crusty Demon]

Petty should get his head read if he turns down the Crom's offer of $800k/year. Surely we are not paying him anywhere close to this.

He's contracted though for two more years. Agree with others that we hold onto him at least for one more year so we can get our s* together in regards to targeting a replacement. If he leaves this season, then our tall stocks are wafer thin. Will still hold currency next offseason as long as his foot holds up. Unless the Crows offer us way overs, he's far too valuable to move on right now. I'd say some of this cash we are freeing up can land in Petty's pocket anyway. Just depends how strong the pull to SA is. The only way I'd be happy with trading him this offseason, is if Fogarty is part of the deal. Which he won't be.

 

[TheBoss]

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is Petty’s manager’s doing trying to drive up his price/contract value for that extra sweet sweet commission.

Watch us now burn that cap space we just freed up on Petty for nothing extra in 2024 then what we would have had already.

The agent has a fiduciary duty to the player. Crows are basically willing to double his salary and he gets the perk of living closer to home.

And Crows are well positioned to play finals for the forseeable future.

Seems like a good spot to be.

The losing move would be to stay with Dees unless they renegotiate his salary.

 

[schmuttt]

Exactly, doesn't matter, he's contracted for another two years, Adelaide have to make us happy to trade him. You're going to need to pay significant overs to tempt us.

The only way I see us moving Petty is if someone like McKay became available and we could keep our first pick in the draft whilst bringing him in. We aren't moving Petty out if we can't get a senior replacement in.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Melbourne better back up the truck and re-negotiate his contract if the rumours of Adelaide offering $800k a year is true.

It would be a disaster for culture and morale if they held him to his contract and made him forgo hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Garbage, if he wants to be salty be salty at his manager and himself for signing the deal he did.

Everyone is available for the right price, it's up to Adelaide to come to the party, we aren't a charity.

 

[I Love Lamb]

The only way I see us moving Petty is if someone like McKay became available and we could keep our first pick in the draft whilst bringing him in. We aren't moving Petty out if we can't get a senior replacement in.

Price would be 10 and one of Tilthorpe Fogarty 14 or F1

Should be enough for a McKay 10+14 you would think.

 

[Bluelegs]

Price would be 10 and one of Tilthorpe Fogarty 14 or F1

Should be enough for a McKay 10+14 you would think.

Wouldn't have thought Thilthorpe has much currency at this stage.

 

[I Love Lamb]

THEORIES BEHIND DEMONS’ MASSIVE PRICE TO MOVE UP

Cue the Brian Windhorst memes: what’s going on in Melbourne?

The Demons stunned experts on Wednesday with their role in a four-way pick swap deal with Gold Coast, Adelaide and North Melbourne.

They paid an absolutely mammoth price to move up just three spots in the order, giving the Suns picks 14, 27 and 35 in exchange for pick 11.

On the AFL’s official Draft Value Index, even just 14 and 35 for 11 would’ve been a favourable deal to the Suns. Instead the Suns picked up the equivalent of a free pick 17 in bonus draft points by doing the deal.

So why exactly did the Demons give up so much?

Part of the problem is how little value the AFL is placing on late picks this season. It’s believed there are a top eight or so prospects, and then not a lot of depth in the draft pool, which isn’t helped by the huge number of compromised prospects (either Academy or father-son products).

But, as AFL Media’s Cal Twomey explained, the Demons are also only looking to use two picks at the draft (though they must go into the night with a minimum of three).

The 2021 premiers currently hold picks 6, 11, 41 and 46, the latter received in the Brodie Grundy

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deal on Wednesday.

It’s believed the Demons are keen to move up the order, potentially all the way up to West Coast’s Pick 1, using 6, 11 and their future first-rounder.

North Melbourne remains the favourite to land Pick 1, currently holding a staggering five first-round picks - 2, 3, 15, 17 and 18.

 

[TheBoss]

Garbage, if he wants to be salty be salty at his manager and himself for signing the deal he did.

Everyone is available for the right price, it's up to Adelaide to come to the party, we aren't a charity.

That's a loser mentality, so I guess it comes natural to you.

Clubs renegotiate contracts all the time.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

That's a loser mentality, so I guess it comes natural to you.

Clubs renegotiate contracts all the time.

Let me know the last time a club said they'd up someones pay and extend them off a lisfranc injury. Ill wait.

If you were in charge wed be like Essendon. You've proven it many times in the trade period.

 

[space_cowboy]

THEORIES BEHIND DEMONS’ MASSIVE PRICE TO MOVE UP

Cue the Brian Windhorst memes: what’s going on in Melbourne?

The Demons stunned experts on Wednesday with their role in a four-way pick swap deal with Gold Coast, Adelaide and North Melbourne.

They paid an absolutely mammoth price to move up just three spots in the order, giving the Suns picks 14, 27 and 35 in exchange for pick 11.

On the AFL’s official Draft Value Index, even just 14 and 35 for 11 would’ve been a favourable deal to the Suns. Instead the Suns picked up the equivalent of a free pick 17 in bonus draft points by doing the deal.

So why exactly did the Demons give up so much?

Part of the problem is how little value the AFL is placing on late picks this season. It’s believed there are a top eight or so prospects, and then not a lot of depth in the draft pool, which isn’t helped by the huge number of compromised prospects (either Academy or father-son products).

But, as AFL Media’s Cal Twomey explained, the Demons are also only looking to use two picks at the draft (though they must go into the night with a minimum of three).

The 2021 premiers currently hold picks 6, 11, 41 and 46, the latter received in the Brodie Grundy deal on Wednesday.

It’s believed the Demons are keen to move up the order, potentially all the way up to West Coast’s Pick 1, using 6, 11 and their future first-rounder.

North Melbourne remains the favourite to land Pick 1, currently holding a staggering five first-round picks - 2, 3, 15, 17 and 18.

It's like 3D chess now. I don't know what they're up to, but they must have hammered out a deal, involving pick 11, with someone. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

 

[Crusty Demon]

THEORIES BEHIND DEMONS’ MASSIVE PRICE TO MOVE UP

Cue the Brian Windhorst memes: what’s going on in Melbourne?

The Demons stunned experts on Wednesday with their role in a four-way pick swap deal with Gold Coast, Adelaide and North Melbourne.

They paid an absolutely mammoth price to move up just three spots in the order, giving the Suns picks 14, 27 and 35 in exchange for pick 11.

On the AFL’s official Draft Value Index, even just 14 and 35 for 11 would’ve been a favourable deal to the Suns. Instead the Suns picked up the equivalent of a free pick 17 in bonus draft points by doing the deal.

So why exactly did the Demons give up so much?

Part of the problem is how little value the AFL is placing on late picks this season. It’s believed there are a top eight or so prospects, and then not a lot of depth in the draft pool, which isn’t helped by the huge number of compromised prospects (either Academy or father-son products).

But, as AFL Media’s Cal Twomey explained, the Demons are also only looking to use two picks at the draft (though they must go into the night with a minimum of three).

The 2021 premiers currently hold picks 6, 11, 41 and 46, the latter received in the Brodie Grundy deal on Wednesday.

It’s believed the Demons are keen to move up the order, potentially all the way up to West Coast’s Pick 1, using 6, 11 and their future first-rounder.

North Melbourne remains the favourite to land Pick 1, currently holding a staggering five first-round picks - 2, 3, 15, 17 and 18.

Do the AFL literally want Reid at the Kangas next year? I mean, they can easily trump us with what they have. Off the compo at 3, along with picks 15 and 17 and that would beat our offer. If Norf want Reid, they will get him.

 

[Bluelegs]

It's like 3D chess now. I don't know what they're up to, but they must have hammered out a deal, involving pick 11, with someone. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Wonder if we are going to help unlock a deal between North and West Coast with pick 3 coming back our way as part of it.

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Bluelegs]

Sounds like we've been leveraged to be honest. Lisfranc into a contract extension scares me.

 

[Bluelegs]

Also Goody maybe you should have been determined to play him as a forward for 2023 instead of throwing him back because you're obsessed with playing a cooked Tmac.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Sounds like we've been leveraged to be honest. Lisfranc into a contract extension scares me.

Let me know the last time a club said they'd up someones pay and extend them off a lisfranc injury. Ill wait.

Melbourne of course

Noob move.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Should have just given him Luke Dunstan

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promises that wed do it at the end of next season, or I dont know, how about during the season if he comes back fine and is playing.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Also Goody maybe you should have been determined to play him as a forward for 2023 instead of throwing him back because you're obsessed with playing a cooked Tmac.

Looking forward to Goody giving TMac a send off game in finals.

 

[Bluelegs]

Looking forward to Goody giving TMac a send off game in finals.

Has an emergency ever gotten chaired off before?

 

[TheBoss]

Let me know the last time a club said they'd up someones pay and extend them off a lisfranc injury. Ill wait.

If you were in charge wed be like Essendon. You've proven it many times in the trade period.

Jack Trengove. Navicular though, not lisfranc. Not that it makes much of a difference.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Jack Trengove. Navicular though, not lisfranc. Not that it makes much of a difference.

worked out so well

 

[Bluelegs]

Still remember the time we almost conned Richmond into taking a very cooked Trengove for pick 12 before he sadly failed his medical in the final hour.

 

[TheBoss]

worked out so well

This is why I am happy to see the back of Petty rather than re-negotiate his deal!

Au revoir Harrison!

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Has an emergency ever gotten chaired off before?

TMac getting games comes before the team.

 

[TheBoss]

Should we enquire whether Nathan Jones wants to have a run in 2024?

He is slow like Jordon. His disposal is just as tidy as Dunstan. And he replaces the shit tattooes of Harmes.

If we are gonna persevere with T-Mac, then I want to go back to the old days of having Chunk hacking the ball inside 50!

But for real, our midfielders should be doing whatever program Viney did last year to improve his disposal. Whilst he wasn't amazing, this year was easily the tidiest year he has ever had and it should be applauded. I hope he maintains the form next year.