List Mgmt. 2023 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade, Draft

[Giant Strides]

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Here's the list of GWS players who are out of contract in 2023 (I'll progressively cross them out as they re-sign):

• Lachie ASH
• Callan WARD (Free Agent)
• Brayden PREUSS
• Tom GREEN
• Finn CALLAGHAN
• Lachlan KEEFFE (Free Agent)
• Jake RICCARDI
• Harry HIMMELBERG (Free Agent)
• Cam FLEETON - delisted (25/9/23)
• Matt FLYNN (Free Agent) - signed by West Coast as an Unrestricted Free Agent
• Xavier O'HALLORAN
• Jack BUCKLEY
• Callum BROWN

Rookie lists:

• Phil DAVIS (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Jacob WEHR (Free agent)
• Dan LLOYD (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Cooper HAMILTON
• Wade DERKSEN
• Nick MADDEN (Cat B) - assumed re-signed due to 2 sources of info
• Jason GILBEE (Cat B) - delisted (25/9/23)

Current list sizes (for when we get to list/draft/trade speculation):

• main list = 36 minus 3 (Fleeton, Flynn + Kennedy delisted with a view to be re-selected in the rookie draft)
• rookie A = 6 minus 2 (Davis, Lloyd)
• rookie B = 2 minus 1 (Gilbee)
• total = 44 minus 5

This is the future pick spreadsheet that comes into play only at trade time, as future picks are used in end of season (2023) trading:


Here's the 2023 AFL Academy Squad, so these (roughly) represent the best players for next year as they stand now:

2023 NAB AFL ACADEMY​

NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
Lachlan	Cabor	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Shellharbour
Nate	Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat
Jack	Callinan	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
Caiden	Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
Daniel	Curtin	WA	Claremont	West Coast
Jack	Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella
Zane	Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster
Mitchell	Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah
William	Green	VIC M	Northern Knights	Northcote
Riley	Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham
William	Lorenz	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Boroondara Hawks
Kane	McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta
Colby	McKercher	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
Ashton	Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton
Connor	O'Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
William	Patton	SA	West Adelaide	Mitcham
Nathan	Philactides	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
Ethan	Read	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Archer	Reid	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
Harley	Reid	VIC C	Bendigo Pioneers	Tongala
Archie	Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
Jake	Rogers	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Broadbeach
Ryley	Sanders	TAS	Sandringham Dragons	North Launceston
Cooper	Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mount Martha
George	Stevens	VIC C	GWV Rebels	South Warrnambool
Koltyn	Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown-Condingup
Orlando	Turner	NT	West Adelaide	South Alice Springs
Jed	Walter	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Nick	Watson	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	East Ringwood
Darcy	Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers

Happy speculating for 2023!

EDIT: 11/12/22 - Added Free Agent status to OOC player list
EDIT: 24/2/23 - Crossed out Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo!!) & Added 2023 Coates Talent League Fixture Link
EDIT: 27/2/23 - Crossed out Finn Callaghan from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo Hoo!!!)
EDIT: 27/4/23 - Crossed out Jacob Wehr from OOC player list
EDIT: 10/5/23 - Crossed out Jack Buckley from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/7/23 - Crossed out Callum Brown from OOC player list
EDIT: 18/7/23 - Crossed out Lachie Ash from OOC player list
EDIT: 20/7/23 - Crossed out Xavier O'Halloran from OOC player list
EDIT: 3/8/23 - Crossed out Harry Himmelberg from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/8/23 - Crossed out Wade Derksen from OOC player list
EDIT: 17/8/23 - Noted Dan Lloyd retiring at end of season
EDIT: 19/8/23 - Crossed out Jake Riccardi from OOC player list
EDIT: 28/8/23 - Noted Phil Davis

1

Phil Davis

Age

33

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

55.5

1star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

55.5

1star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

retiring at end of season
EDIT: 25/9/23 - Noted Cam Fleeton & Jason Gilbee delisted
EDIT: 4/10/23 - Noted Flynn, Preuss & Keeffe situations
EDIT: 9/10/23 - Updated Flynn to WCE, removed Preuss from OOC player list
EDIT: 12/10/23 - Updated Madden with 2 sources of information
EDIT: 19/10/23 - Updated Keeffe & Hamilton re-signed
EDIT: 31/10/23 - adjusted main list numbers with Adam Kennedy

40

Adam Kennedy

Age

31

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

245.6

4star

D

1.0

1star

K

1.0

1star

HB

0.0

1star

M

0.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

10.0

1star

D

18.6

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.4

4star

delisting (with a view to be re-selected in rookie draft)

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[Colonial]

 

[GWS Goose]

No Charlie McCormick

 

[Orange crush]

No Charlie McCormick

They spoke about him a few eeks ago as staying on as an overager in thee academy next year

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

 

[Orange crush]

Could be a handy fill in for a year or two

 

[Giant Strides]

OK, another Cat B surprise by Caruso, like Will Shaw a few years ago.

Anyone have any more info on Nathan Wardius, other than what's been stated in the media release?

 

[GWS Goose]

OK, another Cat B surprise by Caruso, like Will Shaw a few years ago.

Anyone have any more info on Nathan Wardius, other than what's been stated in the media release?

Ive literally never heard of him until today. Same as the Perth kid we signed last night, first time I'd even hear the name was when we read it out.

 

[Giant Strides]

Pretty clear pattern in our selections - we've gone for outright speed and agility.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

OK, another Cat B surprise by Caruso, like Will Shaw a few years ago.

Anyone have any more info on Nathan Wardius, other than what's been stated in the media release?

Highlights package looks ok. Also played a couple of VFL games for us (not too many possessions but a couple of goals against the suns)

 

[Hendo_21]

Pretty clear pattern in our selections - we've gone for outright speed and agility.

Trend in recent years is to go after the strong testers and great athletes but feels like it's been cranked up even more this year, gives us some high-upside guys to work with. They're not all going to work out but our development team typically does a good job getting a lot out of these guys. Our list is already pretty chock full of lots of young and emerging talent that it allows us to take more swings like this, interested to see who pans out.

 

[GWS Goose]

Highlights package looks ok. Also played a couple of VFL games for us (not too many possessions but a couple of goals against the suns)

its a nice highlght reel

 

[Giant Pete]

Don’t forget we’ve got Darcy Jones coming into contention too… he was a highlight last preseason and was going to get early games.
The Tsunami is coming

 

[Giant Strides]

The Tsunami is coming

It feels like we are going all in on this.

P.S. You need to change that colour!

 

[Battlepants]

It feels like we are going all in on this.

P.S. You need to change that colour!

 

[fridgeman]

Regarding the Crows trade it may have been that the Eagles were after both #7 + 1 of #16 this year or F1 (24) and the Club decided it was too much
Maybe we find out maybe we don't but hopefully both Gothard and Leake turn into 200game premiership players for the club

Surprised no genuine mids were picked but like others I think they may look to move Perryman to mid maybe not this year but next after Ward and it does give opportunities for speed (Daniels, Bedford + others) to have short bursts and another options is for XOH and Rowston are back up options

Looking at the picks it adds depth to the small forwards and expect a couple to shine (hopefully they all do) and see game time but see who is around in 4 years. Peatling I see as a reserves leader and playing mid predominantly although a big pre season and his smother in an early season game showed real effort. I could also see either Gruz or Derksen spending half the season in defence to learn some craft and again so much hypothetical here amd we will see come March how they line up

 

[Orange crush]

Regarding the Crows trade it may have been that the Eagles were after both #7 + 1 of #16 this year or F1 (24) and the Club decided it was too much
Maybe we find out maybe we don't but hopefully both Gothard and Leake turn into 200game premiership players for the club

Surprised no genuine mids were picked but like others I think they may look to move Perryman to mid maybe not this year but next after Ward and it does give opportunities for speed (Daniels, Bedford + others) to have short bursts and another options is for XOH and Rowston are back up options

Looking at the picks it adds depth to the small forwards and expect a couple to shine (hopefully they all do) and see game time but see who is around in 4 years. Peatling I see as a reserves leader and playing mid predominantly although a big pre season and his smother in an early season game showed real effort. I could also see either Gruz or Derksen spending half the season in defence to learn some craft and again so much hypothetical here amd we will see come March how they line up

Just reading through the names you mentioned it shows we’ve really rebuilt our depth …. Let’s hope they come on as expected in the next 2 or 3 years

 

[Orange Agent]

OK, another Cat B surprise by Caruso, like Will Shaw a few years ago.

Anyone have any more info on Nathan Wardius, other than what's been stated in the media release?

Hume league is not a great standard. Long shot but suppose that's what Cat B rookie list is for.

 

[GWS Goose]

Hume league is not a great standard. Long shot but suppose that's what Cat B rookie list is for.

They played him in a couple VFL games presumably as a trial, hopefully he showed something they like

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Regarding the Crows trade it may have been that the Eagles were after both #7 + 1 of #16 this year or F1 (24) and the Club decided it was too much
Maybe we find out maybe we don't but hopefully both Gothard and Leake turn into 200game premiership players for the club

listening to Caruso and a couple of things from elsewhere - apparently WC were shopping next years first around to a number of clubs and nobody wanted to take it. It wasn’t just us that said no.

the reason Caruso gave was basically, we wanted these 2 players & we needed 2 picks to do that.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

No Charlie McCormick

Not surprised we didn't go with McCormick. But a little surprise we didn't bring in at least one tall.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

listening to Caruso and a couple of things from elsewhere - apparently WC were shopping next years first around to a number of clubs and nobody wanted to take it. It wasn’t just us that said no.

the reason Caruso gave was basically, we wanted these 2 players & we needed 2 picks to do that.

Given how the top end of next year's draft looks like being 6-8 mids who atm seem pretty even. Its not surprising that clubs choose to keep top 12 selections in a draft that had more variety.

 

[Bjo187]

Disappointed McCormack wasn't selected, he has some real talent. I wonder what the issue is?

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Fox Sports analysis and grades for the draft. Think our assessment of C+ is a bit harsh - in the end we got two good players in the first round, albeit not in the pick order expected.

GWS GIANTS
Picks (at start of the draft): 7, 16, 43, 59, 77, 79

Selections: Phoenix Gothard (12), James Leake (17), Joe Fonti (44), Harvey Thomas (59)

An incredible first night of the draft for the Giants, who traded down and took a bolter then traded up to take a slider. After sending Pick 8 to Adelaide to shift a few spots down the order, the Giants pulled the biggest shock of the first round, taking Murray Bushrangers forward Phoenix Gothard at Pick 12. Then sensing St Kilda could take James Leake at Pick 17, the Giants swapped picks with the Saints and drafted the Tassie utility — the player they’d been most heavily linked to with their first selection. But as Saints champion Leigh Montagna

Leigh Montagna

Age

40

Ht

178cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.9

5star

K

14.8

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

4.0

5star

MG

482.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.8

2star

HB

1.2

2star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

noted on Fox Footy on Monday night: “What’s interesting about the Giants’ selections is they got Gothard at 12 and were lucky to get Leake – and had to give up a future second rounder to get him at 17. You wonder whether they would’ve been able to get Gothard anyway at 17.” The Giants were keen on defender Joe Fonti, who they were happy to pounce on late in the second round, while they didn’t have to match a bid on top academy prospect Harvey Thomas.
Grade: C+

Every AFL club’s 2023 draft haul analysed, and how their new recruits fit in: Report Card

Bold trade pays off as Eagles rue close calls; powerhouse curiously quiet: AFL Draft Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[GWS Goose]

Disappointed McCormack wasn't selected, he has some real talent. I wonder what the issue is?

me too