Prediction 2023 GWS Giants - Predicted best 22, breakout player(s), general player/team discussion & questions

[Hendo_21]

Keen to see how this Kennedy as a forward thing looks and whether it's actually something they follow through with or it's just a weird pre-season thing

 

[PaythePerryman]

Keen to see how this Kennedy as a forward thing looks and whether it's actually something they follow through with or it's just a weird pre-season thing

I suppose as a pressure fwd he'd be handy.
But you'd assume Peatling would be a better pick...but maybe they want him in the back line.
I just hope Kingsley locks down some roles so the players get a good run at it before the season starts

 

[Hendo_21]

I suppose as a pressure fwd he'd be handy.
But you'd assume Peatling would be a better pick...but maybe they want him in the back line.
I just hope Kingsley locks down some roles so the players get a good run at it before the season starts

Yeah would imagine he's probably low on the pecking order of small forwards and gets swung back to a more natural position when they start playing footy but it's worth a try to see how it looks at least

 

[GWS Goose]

I suppose as a pressure fwd he'd be handy.
But you'd assume Peatling would be a better pick...but maybe they want him in the back line.
I just hope Kingsley locks down some roles so the players get a good run at it before the season starts

They are at the place in the squad where you want versatility. Probably not first choice anywhere, but you want them to be able to fill what ever role is required as form and injury impact the squad.

 

[PaythePerryman]

They are at the place in the squad where you want versatility. Probably not first choice anywhere, but you want them to be able to fill what ever role is required as form and injury impact the squad.

I mean....kinda.
I guess with Adam you could ask for versatility coz he's a vet. But with the younger guys I think it's better for development for them to be locked into a role for a decent amount of time to learn the craft before being thrown around the joint.
I can see strengths to both arguments though. With Fahey, Hamilton and Peatling coming through as running defenders I suppose it makes sense to push Adam up the field so they can develop

 

[Hendo_21]

Think Perryman could be in for a year, seems like the steady midfield role is there for him and considering Kingsley's background I don't think we're going to see him used as a tagger. He played really well when being used as a more defensive midfielder while still being able to have a strong impact offenisvely but when he was cut loose and used freely he put up great numbers. Super excited for him, hope he gets the recognition he deserves league wide because he's so tough, versatile and effective. Of his 6 non injury effected games he played in the midfield he topped 10+ contested possessions 5 times and had more then 12 4 times.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Seems Adam still hasn’t settled on the captain(s)… I hope Toby remains

Three, two, one? Giants ponder captaincy call in Kingsley era

GWS is yet to decide whether it will retain three captains in 2023 as coach Adam Kingsley and his new assistants assess their options

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[Hendo_21]

Seems Adam still hasn’t settled on the captain(s)… I hope Toby remains

Three, two, one? Giants ponder captaincy call in Kingsley era

GWS is yet to decide whether it will retain three captains in 2023 as coach Adam Kingsley and his new assistants assess their options

www.afl.com.au

Probably unlikely it's 3 captains again considering just how unique that is across the competiton, don't really mind whatever conclusion they come to, it's hard to get any sort of accurate reading on the real leadership qualities these guys have so whatever they come up with probably works

 

[Orangeutan]

Probably unlikely it's 3 captains again considering just how unique that is across the competiton, don't really mind whatever conclusion they come to, it's hard to get any sort of accurate reading on the real leadership qualities these guys have so whatever they come up with probably works

Yeah, 3 captains doesn't work. Leadership groups are there to spread the responsibility.
Upon reflection, it was a symptom of how the team and playing style was compromised.

 

[Colonial]

Yeah, 3 captains doesn't work. Leadership groups are there to spread the responsibility.
Upon reflection, it was a symptom of how the team and playing style was compromised.

Didn’t the Swans win a flag with multiple Capatains?

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Yeah, 3 captains doesn't work. Leadership groups are there to spread the responsibility.
Upon reflection, it was a symptom of how the team and playing style was compromised.

Adam seems not entirely on board with the 3 captain model as well. Our new coach wants to put his stamp on the club and is not shy about making changes. He has already restructured the coaching staff, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he abandons the 3 captain model.

 

[Orangeutan]

Didn’t the Swans win a flag with multiple Capatains?

Point taken. It seemed like an interim measure because of the pressure on Cogs. That should have passed by now.

 

[GWS Goose]

Didn’t the Swans win a flag with multiple Capatains?

Yep.
Rick Charlesworth went with the "leaderful team" concept and had 3 captains and 6 or 7 in the leadership group and he was exceptionally successful

 

[Hendo_21]

Yeah, 3 captains doesn't work. Leadership groups are there to spread the responsibility.
Upon reflection, it was a symptom of how the team and playing style was compromised.

I think it'll change just because 3 captains is very rare and it's probably unlikely that Kingsley wants to run things that way not becaues it "doesn't work" but just that it's pretty unique and Kingsley might want something a bit more orthodox like a 1/2 captain model. I don't really care what they go with, they know way more about the inner workings of everyone's leadership a hell of a lot more then we do, we see a couple hours every weekend but its the whole week that matters. Hope Cogs gets to be the/a captain.

 

[Colonial]

Think it’ll be Cogs or Chook as stand alone.
Love TFG but a Captain also needs a level head.

 

[PaythePerryman]

Think it’ll be Cogs or Chook as stand alone.
Love TFG but a Captain also needs a level head.

There's no way they could go down to 2 and ditch 1.
It's 3 or 1 I guess.

 

[Colonial]

There's no way they could go down to 2 and ditch 1.
It's 3 or 1 I guess.

That’s why I said Cogs or Chook. Not both.

 

[sydney_gws]

You would think if Kelly wants it he will be captain. His form is more consistent then Cognilio. But given injures, maybe 2 captains isn't a bad idea, even 3.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

You would think if Kelly wants it he will be captain. His form is more consistent then Cognilio. But given injures, maybe 2 captains isn't a bad idea, even 3.

Kelly also has the longest contract with us, expiring in 2029

 

[Battlepants]

There's no way they could go down to 2 and ditch 1.
It's 3 or 1 I guess.

Why couldn't they do that? Personally I feel like Kelly and Cogs as co-captains would be ideal.

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[Hendo_21]

Why couldn't they do that? Personally I feel like Kelly and Cogs as co-captains would be ideal.

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It's a weird look if one of them gets the flick as captain yet the other 2 get to stay on

 

[Battlepants]

It's a weird look if one of them gets the flick as captain yet the other 2 get to stay on

Toby was only a co-captain for 1 season. It's not weird at all if they're restructuring the leadership system under a new coach

 

[Giant Strides]

Your club’s best tactical substitute options for the 2023 AFL season

Who can have an impact for all 18 clubs off the bench in 2023?

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There is no standout candidate for the Giants.

Having lost a pair of guns in Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper, their midfield stocks aren’t quite as deep as they have been previously so a fringe or younger on-baller might not be the obvious option as it was in 2022. The Giants also recruited small forward Toby Bedford in the off-season and he could potentially push ahead of a player like Brent Daniels.

Daniels missed all of last season due to persistent hamstring injuries, so naturally the club would want to ease him back into the fray of senior footy. That scenario makes him suited perfectly to the sub role. The 23-year-old could come on and make an impact late in games with his dynamism up forward and his strength around the ball.

Similarly, experienced forward Daniel Lloyd is one who might not get a start in GWS’ forward line so could be used tactically off the bench.

Callum Brown’s versatility is appealing as a tactical sub, emerging talent Conor Stone, who like Daniels had hamstring issues last year, is also an option, as is 19-year-old Cooper Hamilton.

Andrew Slevison

What are the thoughts of GWS posters?

If Bedford and Darcy Jones both push ahead of Brent Daniels, then Binga could fit as a tactical subsitute. He's experienced, would bring zip and energy when he came on, and could slot into forward or midfield roles.

Not sure Dan Lloyd holds a similar value as tactical sub, except for his general AFL knowledge and experience.

Callum Brown I could agree with having some flexibility to cover positions - although when the VFL team is playing he probably needs to be playing to build his own experience. I'd similarly say that Stone & Hamilton would be not well served being the sub for too many weeks - they need game time to demonstrate they're ready to break into the best 22. However, as two of a longer list of players who roll through the sub position, they'd be OK.

What about Cal Ward? If he starts finding in harder to run out a full game, could we use him in the sub role? The issue would be he's primarily a mid ... and can he cover enough positions off the sub's bench? But he did play half back last year, and we're apparently trialling him forward this year, so could that point to possible use in this role.

The other suggestion I would have is James Peatling. Can reliably play both forward and half back roles, and therefore also plug a midfield loss with some judicious rearrangement of team positions/roles. You'd never want to pigeonhole the one player in this role too many times in a row, but Peatling strikes me as a decent option if he doesn't make the team.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

It's a weird look if one of them gets the flick as captain yet the other 2 get to stay on

I prefer 1 captain or retaining the 3 captain model. I know they are professionals but if only one of them got dropped, that person would need a lot of resilience to cope, and the dropping may also adversely impact their game?

 

[GWS Goose]

Your club’s best tactical substitute options for the 2023 AFL season

Who can have an impact for all 18 clubs off the bench in 2023?

www.sen.com.au

There is no standout candidate for the Giants.

Having lost a pair of guns in Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper, their midfield stocks aren’t quite as deep as they have been previously so a fringe or younger on-baller might not be the obvious option as it was in 2022. The Giants also recruited small forward Toby Bedford in the off-season and he could potentially push ahead of a player like Brent Daniels.

Daniels missed all of last season due to persistent hamstring injuries, so naturally the club would want to ease him back into the fray of senior footy. That scenario makes him suited perfectly to the sub role. The 23-year-old could come on and make an impact late in games with his dynamism up forward and his strength around the ball.

Similarly, experienced forward Daniel Lloyd is one who might not get a start in GWS’ forward line so could be used tactically off the bench.

Callum Brown’s versatility is appealing as a tactical sub, emerging talent Conor Stone, who like Daniels had hamstring issues last year, is also an option, as is 19-year-old Cooper Hamilton.

Andrew Slevison

What are the thoughts of GWS posters?

If Bedford and Darcy Jones both push ahead of Brent Daniels, then Binga could fit as a tactical subsitute. He's experienced, would bring zip and energy when he came on, and could slot into forward or midfield roles.

Not sure Dan Lloyd holds a similar value as tactical sub, except for his general AFL knowledge and experience.

Callum Brown I could agree with having some flexibility to cover positions - although when the VFL team is playing he probably needs to be playing to build his own experience. I'd similarly say that Stone & Hamilton would be not well served being the sub for too many weeks - they need game time to demonstrate they're ready to break into the best 22. However, as two of a longer list of players who roll through the sub position, they'd be OK.

What about Cal Ward? If he starts finding in harder to run out a full game, could we use him in the sub role? The issue would be he's primarily a mid ... and can he cover enough positions off the sub's bench? But he did play half back last year, and we're apparently trialling him forward this year, so could that point to possible use in this role.

The other suggestion I would have is James Peatling. Can reliably play both forward and half back roles, and therefore also plug a midfield loss with some judicious rearrangement of team positions/roles. You'd never want to tag the one player in this role too many times in a row, but Peatling strikes me as a decent option if he doesn't make the team.

Binga will be in the 22.

Kennedy, Peatling or Lloyd are unlikely to be in the side and could be the sub. Ditto if Riccardi misses out.

Another option I can see is us rotating kids on the edge through the sub role the likes of Jones, Hamilton, Brown and others of that ilk taking it in turns.