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AFL Match Statistics : St Kilda defeated by Port Adelaide at Marvel Stadium Round 7 Friday, 28th April 2023

St Kilda defeated by Port Adelaide at Marvel Stadium Round 7 Friday, 28th April 2023 AFL match statistics
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Not sure if there's somewhere that rolls it up on a week by week basis but it's only nine clicks to check each of them.
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Couldn't see a "master sheet" or "week by week", but flipping through the teams on week 7, it had us third: Freo 74.4, Hawks 77.1, GWS 79.4 (Swans were 107.7). Don't know if that includes 23rd man, presume it would. Cal Ward coming back in would improve our stats.
 
Cogs has been amongst our best this season, and proud of the way he has bounced back from any personal disappointment of not being co-captain.

Stephen Coniglio​

With the departure of midfielders Tim Tarantoand Jacob Hopper, you could be forgiven for writing this GWS midfield off. But, the brilliance of Stephen Coniglio has led the Giants one win away from the top eight.

The 29-year-old is quietly averaging a best-ever 30 disposals per game and sits fifth in score involvements per game. Coniglio isn't just winning the ball at a huge rate, he's taking ground and punishing teams with his penetrating kicking.

The Giants midfielder is finding career form and is building strong partnership with fellow ball magnet Tom Green that can challenge the AFL's best midfields.

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Five AFL players flying under the radar this season

These in-form AFL stars aren't getting the hype they deserve in 2023.
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They played this last night during the FTV telecast. Amazing that until now, Toby was never a captain of any team, including in the junior levels. Great credit to Kingsley and the players who voted for him - Toby inspires the team to do better.

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Toby Greene x Joel Selwood Part 1

Geelong legend Joel Selwood interviews Toby Greene at Captain's Day earlier this year.
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Good write-up on Tom Green ... as noted by someone, overshadowed by Bont last night and (largely) ignored by Vic media:

MSN

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Not even a career night from "special" and "next level" midfielder Tom Green could save GWS from losing to the Western Bulldogs on Saturday, but his coach is licking his lips at what's to come from the Giants prodigy.

Green, 22, went blow-for-blow with Bulldogs champion Marcus Bontempelli at Manuka Oval, and while master Bontempelli (25 contested possessions, 14 clearances) possibly got the points over apprentice Green (38 disposals, three goals), it was a tantalising display from the young Giant.

Often labelled a 'bull' for his stoppage brutality, Green's coach Adam Kingsley said his increased running power and ability to find uncontested ball was taking his game to new heights. "Typically he's been a really strong stoppage player, but he's now finding the ball in transition … that's through work-rates, through positioning, and then tonight he's been able to finish his work," he said.
 
The bulldogs match showed everyone what we already knew- how great Tom Green is. He’s likely to be our first ever Brownlow winner?

“Genuine article” Giant tipped to win a Brownlow after Bontempelli duel

The GWS midfielder starred on the weekend.
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Sen’s view on which of our current players would benefit the most from leaving us.

Jake Riccardi

Now in his fourth year with the Giants, a change of environment could perhaps help spark Jake Riccardi’s career.

Over the course of his 33 AFL games he has shown glimpses of what he is truly capable of, but just cannot seem to string any continuity together.

Riccardi played the first four games of this season, returning two goals in Round 3 against Carlton, but went goalless in the other three. He was subsequently omitted ahead of Round 5 and has played the last three games in the VFL, kicking 11 goals.

There has been enough from Riccardi in his AFL career to date to suggest he can make it, but he just hasn’t been able to cement a spot inside forward 50 with the Giants.

Perhaps pastures anew and a fresh environment might suit the 23-year-old, who is out of contract this year.


The player at each AFL club who needs a change of scenery for greater opportunities

Could these players benefit from joining a new environment?
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MelbourneGWS said:
Sen’s view on which of our current players would benefit the most from leaving us.

Jake Riccardi

Now in his fourth year with the Giants, a change of environment could perhaps help spark Jake Riccardi’s career.

Over the course of his 33 AFL games he has shown glimpses of what he is truly capable of, but just cannot seem to string any continuity together.

Riccardi played the first four games of this season, returning two goals in Round 3 against Carlton, but went goalless in the other three. He was subsequently omitted ahead of Round 5 and has played the last three games in the VFL, kicking 11 goals.

There has been enough from Riccardi in his AFL career to date to suggest he can make it, but he just hasn’t been able to cement a spot inside forward 50 with the Giants.

Perhaps pastures anew and a fresh environment might suit the 23-year-old, who is out of contract this year.


The player at each AFL club who needs a change of scenery for greater opportunities

Could these players benefit from joining a new environment?
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interesting they have Tomlinson for Melbourne.

I wonder if the elite running of Tomlinson that may suit the Kingsley game style might make parties think about a home coming.

Id like that personally. Ive always wanted to see him play as Nick Riewaldt style forward and run the pants off the defender and create space for the other forwards.
 
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interesting they have Tomlinson for Melbourne.

I wonder if the elite running of Tomlinson that may suit the Kingsley game style might make parties think about a home coming.

Id like that personally. Ive always wanted to see him play as Nick Riewaldt style forward and run the pants off the defender and create space for the other forwards.
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No thanks. Be getting in Cadmans way.
 
GWS Goose said:
interesting they have Tomlinson for Melbourne.

I wonder if the elite running of Tomlinson that may suit the Kingsley game style might make parties think about a home coming.

Id like that personally. Ive always wanted to see him play as Nick Riewaldt style forward and run the pants off the defender and create space for the other forwards.
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Too slow for my liking
 
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The ‘alarming’ footy act that has some teams ‘bleeding’ goals... and will ‘swing a final’

The ‘alarming’ footy act that has some teams ‘bleeding’ goals... and will ‘swing a final’
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Ignore the hyperbolic headline, but this is talking about kick-ins, and the teams that don't clear the ball out and suffer from giving away points versus those who take it up the other end & score. Guess where GWS sits? No surprise, fourth worst for points scored against!

Shock statistics show just nine per cent of kick outs result in a score for the attacking team. Alarmingly, of those same kick outs, the opposition are scoring 16 per cent of the time on the rebound. “There’s been 1700 kick outs, but only six (glaring) errors. The major problems aren’t the clanger – it’s going to that junction 70-80 (metres) from goal whether it’s wide right or wide left.”

King said teams were too willing to roll the dice out wide, and were getting punished on the turnover. “If you don’t kick to your own numbers, you bleed,” he said. “He could be outnumbered five to one (the ruck target). You’ll be blown away by what some teams have conceded – we’re only nine weeks in!”

Statistics show Hawthorn are the worst for coughing up points from their kick ins, conceding 19.11 on the way back. “Carlton 15.2, Richmond 13.11, GWS 10.13.” King said. Hawks (-87), Tigers (-67), Blues (-51) and GWS (-46) are the worst offenders this season.
 
Giant Strides said:
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The ‘alarming’ footy act that has some teams ‘bleeding’ goals... and will ‘swing a final’

The ‘alarming’ footy act that has some teams ‘bleeding’ goals... and will ‘swing a final’
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

Ignore the hyperbolic headline, but this is talking about kick-ins, and the teams that don't clear the ball out and suffer from giving away points versus those who take it up the other end & score. Guess where GWS sits? No surprise, fourth worst for points scored against!

Shock statistics show just nine per cent of kick outs result in a score for the attacking team. Alarmingly, of those same kick outs, the opposition are scoring 16 per cent of the time on the rebound. “There’s been 1700 kick outs, but only six (glaring) errors. The major problems aren’t the clanger – it’s going to that junction 70-80 (metres) from goal whether it’s wide right or wide left.”

King said teams were too willing to roll the dice out wide, and were getting punished on the turnover. “If you don’t kick to your own numbers, you bleed,” he said. “He could be outnumbered five to one (the ruck target). You’ll be blown away by what some teams have conceded – we’re only nine weeks in!”

Statistics show Hawthorn are the worst for coughing up points from their kick ins, conceding 19.11 on the way back. “Carlton 15.2, Richmond 13.11, GWS 10.13.” King said. Hawks (-87), Tigers (-67), Blues (-51) and GWS (-46) are the worst offenders this season.
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Makes sense though that it's the good teams keeping the less good teams locked in their defensive 50 though, or putting better pressure on the kick ins...

It's a bit of a nothing stat the more I think about it I reckon!
 

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domologue said:
Makes sense though that it's the good teams keeping the less good teams locked in their defensive 50 though, or putting better pressure on the kick ins...

It's a bit of a nothing stat the more I think about it I reckon!
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Perhaps. It resonates with me because I've been vociferous about how poor our pressure is on our opponents kicking out from behinds ... while we suffer much greater pressure. To me, it's a clear failing of our gameplan, which is a coach thing not a player thing.
 
Giant Strides said:
Perhaps. It resonates with me because I've been vociferous about how poor our pressure is on our opponents kicking out from behinds ... while we suffer much greater pressure. To me, it's a clear failing of our gameplan, which is a coach thing not a player thing.
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100% agree and been thinking this for a while!!


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Interesting ...

The best 22 based off Champion Data’s official player ratings

Here’s the best possible side this season based off the ratings.
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Champion Data’s AFL player ratings are a much-debated topic in the footy community. While the ratings can be controversial, they aim to highlight who the game’s most effective players are in their positions. Through nine rounds, the highest-ranked player is Western Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli who is averaging 19.89 rating points per game.

While Bontempelli is the top dog, we’ve attempted to create a best 22 so far based off the official ratings (through 10 rounds). Even though most of the top-rated players in the ratings are midfielders, we’ve attempted to put players in the positions they actually play in.

We’ve also opted not to select players that are currently injured (sorry Sam Taylor).

The defence is made up of four medium defenders and two key defenders. We’ve picked two genuine wingmen, as well as six other midfielders that fill three spots on the bench, as well as centre, rover and ruck rover. The forward line has two key forwards, two medium forwards and two midfielders resting forward (that are averaging at least a goal a game). We’ve also picked two ruckmen, one starting and one on the bench.

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Our national broadcaster’s season summary in a couple of paragraphs after round 9. Was surprised that Kelly and Buckley were not mentioned in the list of our players having a good season.

It's been an interesting season so far for the Giants under new coach Adam Kingsley. The team has already won half as many games as they did in 2022, although after winning five quarters out of the first two games, GWS won just 10 quarters in the next seven matches.

Aside from the usual suspects like Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio, Nick Haynes and Jesse Hogan, Tom Green is having a monster season and Finn Callaghan and recruit Xavier O'Halloran are becoming increasingly important — but making progress up the ladder will be hard.

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'They will be hard to stop': Here's where each AFL club stands after nine rounds

Want a quick rundown on where your team is at after nine rounds of the AFL season? From flag favourites Collingwood to potential wooden spooners Hawthorn, Andrew McGarry sums up each side.
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