List Mgmt. 2023 List Management

[The Bighouse]

What about that Casey Voss character…

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Would have thought Jack Carroll would have first dibs cermentating a role in the position you mention and spruiking about Markov.

A lot of these positions are interchangeable these days, wingers/mids/flankers, haven't had the opportunity to watching the VFL side as much I wished the past couple of years, really bullish on Carroll and his upside and potential and hope Voss unleashes him more next season (given body strength and injury issues

 

[M_I_G]

Would rather we grab Narkle over markov
Cut by the suns, ooft

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Would rather we grab Narkle over markov
Cut by the suns, ooft

Narkle is rubbish. Hard pass

 

[Jeremias]

Would rather we grab Narkle over markov
Cut by the suns, ooft

Not sure I'd be considering a franchise who have never finished above 12th as some sort of doyens of list management.

Cut by the Suns may very well be a badge of honour.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Suns development is a bit of a disaster.

Brodie, Scrimshaw, Ah Chee all recent high draftees to find a new home and suddenly come good.

Not saying they haven't had some success but it's not been brilliant

 

[RAPPA]

Just saw Ang Christou running round Prince's Park. Looks in good nick. Would fit well in a Williams shaped hole. Time for a comeback?

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Would prefer Kruezer to pull on the boots tbh

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Where’s Sydney stack

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Sydney Stack

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

202.0

3star

D

9.8

2star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.8

4star

MG

133.0

2star

D

16.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

227.4

4star

at?

 

[Aphrodite]

Where’s Sydney stack at?

Ex-Richmond player Sydney Stack convicted of drunk, unlicensed driving

Ex-AFL star’s bizarre excuse for drink-driving after conviction

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[bigblueboy]

Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

would have been the obvious next man up for Williams.

 

[thylacine60]

Not sure I'd be considering a franchise who have never finished above 12th as some sort of doyens of list management.

Cut by the Suns may very well be a badge of honour.

Like getting suspended on BF.

 

[CJMB]

Liam Stocker would have been the obvious next man up for Williams.

I’m not so sure he was, especially after the Collingwood game.

Williams assets to the backline are his kicking, his turn of pace, his footy iq and that he can actually defend.

I’m not losing all of that for a 1/10 chance of seeing a huge bump. We’d find an alternative.

 

[gbatman]

The Williams injury has so many bad aspects to it, that's what's so frustrating.

1. The guy proved his worth last season to us, when our trio of rebounding ball winning guns were in defence were a different team. Voss brought him straight back for a reason. He's best 18 and important to us.

2. He was on the verge of his best ever season, peak condition, peak age, really fit and rearing to go. We may never see the best of him.

3. Boyd. If Boyd was fit I don't think any of us would be too stressed. Boyd was rapidly improving to the point where many had him best 22 and not far off William's output. His late season form was great and a full AFL pre-season was to put him in good stead. Boyd was tracking as being a big in but fitting him in would be hard with such a stacked for talent backline. This was the opportunity. But alas Boyd is down long term as well.

4. The Docherty dilemma. He was to be one of those players who would release Docherty into the middle where he struck some strong form last season. Now that looks like being a pipe dream.

It's not just one player out, it's a number of things.

 

[katmanblue]

Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

would have been the obvious next man up for Williams.

For about 5minutes a quarter.

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[Dunna Heartknee]

The Williams injury has so many bad aspects to it, that's what's so frustrating.

1. The guy proved his worth last season to us, when our trio of rebounding ball winning guns were in defence were a different team. Voss brought him straight back for a reason. He's best 18 and important to us.

2. He was on the verge of his best ever season, peak condition, peak age, really fit and rearing to go. We may never see the best of him.

3. Boyd. If Boyd was fit I don't think any of us would be too stressed. Boyd was rapidly improving to the point where many had him best 22 and not far off William's output. His late season form was great and a full AFL pre-season was to put him in good stead. Boyd was tracking as being a big in but fitting him in would be hard with such a stacked for talent backline. This was the opportunity. But alas Boyd is down long term as well.

4. The Docherty dilemma. He was to be one of those players who would release Docherty into the middle where he struck some strong form last season. Now that looks like being a pipe dream.

It's not just one player out, it's a number of things.

We need Williams pace in our structure but not having him there is something we are accustomed to (Williams is always perennial injured).

Personally, don't think Docherty is any quicker than Newman so I don't see any need to put Doch down back.
The problem therein lies replacing Newmans position with someone like:
Plowman who is a lot slower but quite apt at AFL level.
Kemp on a par with pace maybe quicker but has not fully adapted to AFL level yet.

Nothing to do with your post but I think we need to be looking at replacing Newmans and not Williams position.
if we are going to acquire another player from outside the club.

 

[thylacine60]

We need Williams pace in our structure but not having him there is something we are accustomed to (Williams is always perennial injured).

Personally, don't think Docherty is any quicker than Newman so I don't see any need to put Doch down back.
The problem therein lies replacing Newmans position with someone like:
Plowman who is a lot slower but quite apt at AFL level.
Kemp on a par with pace maybe quicker but has not fully adapted to AFL level yet.

Nothing to do with your post but I think we need to be looking at replacing Newmans and not Williams position.
if we are going to acquire another player from outside the club.

Jimster, you're not allowed 2 separate accounts.

 

[JustaBattler]

Docherty is slow under pressure and fast with ball in hand I have never and still don't rate his rebound kicking - I think he was exposed a lot after the bye as a defender making unforced errors way too often for a bloke with his experience and as soon as he was put into the thick of things playing midfield he played very very well.

Would rather play the Plow down back as s stopper - but Plowman Marchbank Kemp and who knows who else pops up is enough 'cover' Saad and McGovern have plenty of run and are better attacking kicks.

A fit Williams is a cut above and will be missed - but then again - we've hardly seen a fit Williams at Carlton so situation normal for mine.

 

[Jimmae]

Any youngster appeal to you more than another.

Off the top of my head? Lachlan Carrigan.

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No, but we didn't have a need for Boyd, Hayes or Sam Durdin in our best 22 last year ... until we did.

Markov is athlete first in a way that doesn't really open up a tight game of footy against better sides. His biggest weapon is to sprint 120m from the rest of the players on the field if they're all locked up within 65m of goal.

Can absolutely scream down the field, but doesn't have a plan with it when he does, and doesn't show enough of other gears. Saad might be a good mentor, or maybe we want to switch him to the wing, but we've got to be really smart about how we assess his ability to absorb game structures and tactics.

I'm not seeing it.

 

[Wickzki]

Anything in the Riley Collier-Dawkins chatter on social media?

My normal people say no - with uncertainty - but anyone heard different?

 

[Jimmae]

Anything in the Riley Collier-Dawkins chatter on social media?

My normal people say no - with uncertainty - but anyone heard different?

Talented player if he can actually explode out of the stoppage against senior bodies, but doesn't make sense for our list profile. If he's durable I'd be interested with an eye to cutting some senior midfield depth at the end of the year.

We must be staring down the barrel of 2 or 3 open slots for 12+ weeks.

 

[The Bighouse]

Off the top of my head? Lachlan Carrigan.

Lachlan Carrigan on Hudl

Watch Lachlan Carrigan's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: Sandringham Dragons Football Club - Sandringham Dragons - NAB League / Sandringham, Victoria

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Markov is athlete first in a way that doesn't really open up a tight game of footy against better sides. His biggest weapon is to sprint 120m from the rest of the players on the field if they're all locked up within 65m of goal.

Can absolutely scream down the field, but doesn't have a plan with it when he does, and doesn't show enough of other gears. Saad might be a good mentor, or maybe we want to switch him to the wing, but we've got to be really smart about how we assess his ability to absorb game structures and tactics.

I'm not seeing it.

Carrigan seems a likely type. Still at RFC VFL?

 

[branedotorg]

Anything in the Riley Collier-Dawkins chatter on social media?

My normal people say no - with uncertainty - but anyone heard different?

Dow and RCD would be a brilliant centre square pairing in the VFL, absolutely run off around the ground though.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Ex-Richmond player Sydney Stack convicted of drunk, unlicensed driving

Ex-AFL star’s bizarre excuse for drink-driving after conviction

www.foxsports.com.au

Oh wow he’s just having a laugh at this point

 

[gbatman]

We need Williams pace in our structure but not having him there is something we are accustomed to (Williams is always perennial injured).

Personally, don't think Docherty is any quicker than Newman so I don't see any need to put Doch down back.
The problem therein lies replacing Newmans position with someone like:
Plowman who is a lot slower but quite apt at AFL level.
Kemp on a par with pace maybe quicker but has not fully adapted to AFL level yet.

Nothing to do with your post but I think we need to be looking at replacing Newmans and not Williams position.
if we are going to acquire another player from outside the club.

In my best side I didn't have Newman or Boyd. But they were close which is good. I had Weitering Young McGovern Marchbank Docherty Williams and Saad. I still see that as our best backline although Boyd/Newman for Marchbank is just as good, just a little different look.

What it has is good footy brains. Guys who can read the play, win the footy and defend an opponent. Guys with good skills as well. Pace is good but if you have these things you don't need a great deal of pace, it helps but these guys win a lot of ball and generate good run with timing and positioning.

You lose Williams in that setup then it's easy, Boyd comes in. But he's injured so Newman comes in. So we are running on fumes again. What comes in next starts to drop off a fair bit IMO.

I don't think we can afford to lose Docherty in defence now. It means Plowman or Cowan or someone from left field has to come in and I don't think that works well for us. We could pick up a delisted player and play them but are they going to be any good?

The thing about three damaging defenders is you can't cover them all. Cover one, maybe two but someone is going to get off the chain. The beauty of having Williams, Docherty and Saad was just that. Teams could not cover them all. You add the intercepting power of Weitering, McGovern and Marchbank and Marchbank's two way run and it's one hell of a defence. Some one has to step up now. Our riches have taken a hit.

 

[HaydossJ]

I'm confident Cowan can come in and do a job. He's not Williams, but others will just need to step up. Physically, Cowan is ready to go.

Jake Bowey premiership player in his first season.

Gibcus now an integral part of Richmond's defence. Debuted against us in round 1 last year and played in the elimination final.

Darcy Wilmot - debuted in an elimination final last year.

If the defensive system is sound, and Cowan has okay football IQ, he should play and we can still be a great team.