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Opinion 2023 Player X vs Y vs Z
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Got to go Dunkley surely he is going 125 this year, no tags, full time midfielder, no rucking, no playing full forward
DenieD
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Chad Warner vs Jai Newcombe vs Tom Green
I feel like this is the biggest pre-season XYZ comparison and will have huge ramifications based on which one/s you start in your squad.
All of them are 21 years old, have bigger roles in their teams midfield this season, and all averaged pretty much the same last season.
Warner (88.7 average), Newcombe (87.5 average), Green (84.9 average) puts them all pretty much at the same price point, and I am almost certain that at least one of these guys will jump up to the 100+ average bracket of top midfielders this season. Just need to work out which one or ones will do it.
BTW I currently have all of them in my starting squad because I can't decide
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I honestly think they all make a jump. I think they all become SP's of the future at some point too.Chad Warner vs Jai Newcombe vs Tom Green
I feel like this is the biggest pre-season XYZ comparison and will have huge ramifications based on which one/s you start in your squad.
All of them are 21 years old, have bigger roles in their teams midfield this season, and all averaged pretty much the same last season.
Warner (88.7 average), Newcombe (87.5 average), Green (84.9 average) puts them all pretty much at the same price point, and I am almost certain that at least one of these guys will jump up to the 100+ average bracket of top midfielders this season. Just need to work out which one or ones will do it.
BTW I currently have all of them in my starting squad because I can't decide
If I had to pick 1 I'd probably lean to Green since his start to last year was simply incredible for a second year player. He's capable up forward too and he's looking huge in his pre season photos.
Warner is arguably first tagged at the Swans this year. He's just so damaging.
Newcombe is a wait and see for me with how depleted the Hawks now are
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DenieD
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yeah Green looks like the safest option of the 3. Least likely to get tagged (GWS have Kelly and Cogs), slightly cheaper than the others (its only 20-30k but it all adds up) and he did have that huge run at the start of last season that he might be able to replicate (hopefully for this whole season).
I have English and Anderson. Marshall I'm not sure about his role given the outs (although I have him too
) Anderson I reckon will kick (wasn't convinced but bigfooty sold me) and I can't see Dunkley's value increasing in a loaded lions midfield.I feel like a lot of people aren't picking Neale because they're worried Dunkley will get some of his ball. I'm worried Dunkley shouldn't be picked because Neale and others will get a lot of his ball.
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I currently am wondering the same thing as I have one midfield spot left and $817k left. It's this weird spot between premiums the lower tier.Chad Warner vs Jai Newcombe vs Tom Green
I feel like this is the biggest pre-season XYZ comparison and will have huge ramifications based on which one/s you start in your squad.
All of them are 21 years old, have bigger roles in their teams midfield this season, and all averaged pretty much the same last season.
Warner (88.7 average), Newcombe (87.5 average), Green (84.9 average) puts them all pretty much at the same price point, and I am almost certain that at least one of these guys will jump up to the 100+ average bracket of top midfielders this season. Just need to work out which one or ones will do it.
BTW I currently have all of them in my starting squad because I can't decide
I worry about Green's spread. He's the kind of player who can rack up 30 touches and score... 90 points. I picked him up after his good start and I had to trade him. Does he become the giants' Oliver? Newcombe I just don't have enough info for, and the midfield is guttered. Warner I feel is limited by the swans' style of play and he had these weird spurts which would be replaced with scores in the 50s, 60s etc.
Just to give you something as I've crapped on all three, I'm strongly considering Cerra and Serong. Roughly same price. Does Cerra get more ball with Walsh out? Does Serong make the leap?
DenieD
Ruh Roh
Serong actually does fit into this discussion perfectly as well because he is also the exact same age (21) and has around the same average (87.7) as all the others. If Brayshaw gets more attention this season with the tag I can see Serong possibly going to that 100+ average range.
Cerra is a bit older and has had stretches of game where he's gone on great runs with some massive games, but I have always considered him as that 90-95 guy that won't quite get to the level of uber premium we need to pick him. He might start the season amazing with Walsh out and average 105 in his first 6 games or so, but I just don't see him doing it for a full season.
I don't think Walsh is playing this season. His injury is fairly serious and playing around with back injuries is really dumb. At the least, I think he plays at most the last six-ten games on light duties until he's fully fit. Cerra will still have more heavy lifting than last season even with him in the team. And if Kennedy goes down, that's even more responsibility. My concern is a tag; I don't think Cerra shakes a tag.
This is why I like Cerra, because he'll be given Walsh's role. If Walsh were fit, I'd possibly pick him.
Serong, as a Fremantle poster said elsewhere, does he just become the efficient guy who doesn't score much though? Not many 100s in 2022.
DenieD
Ruh Roh
If Walsh is out a really long time then Cerra could be an option, but I don't really rate Cerra as being anywhere near as good as Walsh (in terms of running ability) so personally I don't see Cerra being able to match Walsh's fantasy output.
Serong did have some good games last season (3 game run of 112, 126 and 113 in the middle of the season), but he has always been second fiddle to Brayshaw. If anything happens to Brayshaw (hard tagged every game for the whole season, or he gets injured) then Serong could fill that role. But then again, with Fyfe back and O'meara apparently training really well, we might not need Serong to go beast mode.
I don't see Cerra as scoring like Walsh either. But I can't see his average not increasing. If you're looking for that 700k not quite premium who will take an extra step, Cerra is a possibility.
My other concern with Green is that Coniglio got more midifeld rotations at the end of the year. Does that continue? He's very tempting though I'll admit.
I'll throw another option at you.......Dylan Sheil!!!
Priced @ 84 and has Hawthorn and GCS up first!!
I'm not saying he will be a keeper (I don't think anyone you have named above will be top 10 mid either), but for a quick $100k and decent scoring over the first 6 weeks?!
What do you do when he scores 60 as the bomber's midfield is thrown around like a chew toy? He also doesn't mark the ball or kick goals. I also don't think the suns are that great a matchup as their midfield is developing.
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As an essendon fan i have to say you are a crazy bastard
It is defiantly a PS watch but if I do it I won't be very highly invested.
With so many trades this year I think you can look at 1-2 players that you plan to get a hot start and then move them on. Salem is the other I'm looking at with the WB up 1st.
With the younger players you're talking about previously, I have had a habit of the past of hanging onto them too long because you are sure they will come good soon!!
Probably, but just throwing mud and seeing what sticks!!
And I'll throw one out there too......
Cameron or Butters @ F4?!
Cameron or Butters @ F4?!
I like Salem. There's no reason why he can't average 95+ and be one of the top six defenders. 2022 was an aberration and he's not injury prone. He's in my team as D3.
I can't see Cameron building on his 2022 average. He was fit, the team was on fire, why would he score more? Butters suffered from injuries in 2022 which hurt his average. I'm not going him purely because I've got Rozee and I don't want bye headaches (I may be overthinking this and should just go with him).
Essendon are a crazy team to go for AFL fantasy. I'd maybe pick Parish as I know he copped some injuries. But what happens if he gets tagged? Honestly don't know, like Zach Merrett, I think Essendon are trying to mix up their midfield mix and the days of him scoring 110+ might be over. Maybe they're not? But I'd rather go with quantities I'm more comfortable with. Macrae over Merrett, and just downgrade elsewhere so you don't have to pick Shiel.
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Just to emphasise my point about Shiel, he had a 27 possession game where he had 10 tackles and scored.... 107 points, because he had seven kicks and no marks. He's never averaged 100 points in a season. Downgrade someone you've fallen in love with and your year will be much better.
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Quiet easily with Cameron at least 10-15 points upside
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I'm thinking Butters over Rozee for two reasons....
1. Butters has more upside
2. Rozee has more fwd craft so is more likely to get moved fwd. Port stuggled for goals recently
Rozee won’t play forward much.
He was AA from playing midfield for only about 15 games. Had a huge impact in the centre once he finally got his opportunity there. He will likely only rest for periods forward.
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I like all this potential breakout chat.
One thing to remember with Cerra is that there's an injury game where he scored 5 built into his average. Take that out and he went at 93. So he already has 5 points upside, plus came back with low TOG and scored a 60. Improvement .etc. Should be close to the 100 mark you'd think. But we say this every year with him so I'm still erring on the side of caution. He almost always seems to have a very low scoring injury game as well. Had a 17 in '21. He's in my team as we speak but would be the first moved along if to a Green/LDU/Anderson most likely
One thing to remember with Cerra is that there's an injury game where he scored 5 built into his average. Take that out and he went at 93. So he already has 5 points upside, plus came back with low TOG and scored a 60. Improvement .etc. Should be close to the 100 mark you'd think. But we say this every year with him so I'm still erring on the side of caution. He almost always seems to have a very low scoring injury game as well. Had a 17 in '21. He's in my team as we speak but would be the first moved along if to a Green/LDU/Anderson most likely
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