List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread III

[Makeshift Park]

Bonar was done as soon as Biggy agreed IMO

Perhaps we're waiting on someone like Mannagh before making a decision on Mahony?

 

[Mav]

what team?

Saints, so Sandringham.

 

[giantroo]

 

[tiltraise]

I’m not talking about the high end picks I’m responding and backing up the point that was made that we ended up with picks in the 40s and 50s which we essentially threw away for 57 and 65 this year

He didnt throw them away he converted them into something that we could potentially use.

At the time the 2023 pool was considered likely deeper than the 2022 pool.

 

[Tiberius]

Worth looking into now that its all materialised
from memory he gave up picks in the 40s/50s last year that we could have taken a KPF like Lemmey, scully or keeler for picks this year which are 57 from dees and 63 from hawks which we gave up for biggy and werent going to use anyway

will take a look into this in more detail when i can be bothered

No rush.

 

[Shermanator]

I’m aware
We also weren’t going to use that pick
And could have got biggie in the psd

It's a nothing pick..

 

[The Nostradamus]

Perhaps we're waiting on someone like Mannagh before making a decision on Mahony?

I’d suggest Mahony is gone regardless

 

[The Nostradamus]

He didnt throw them away he converted them into something that we could potentially use.

At the time the 2023 pool was considered likely deeper than the 2022 pool.

That’s fine
He was wrong
It’s minor but just calling it out

 

[perplexed]

It's a nothing pick..

Yep, it's a nothing pick. Fine to use it on Biggie. Unfortunately we got that pick when we dump traded pick 43 before the draft last year. It wasn't great list management.

 

[Mop]

Throw the old family reasons line out

No one ever questions that

Sorry all I’ve got family reasons i’d rather stay in vic

Game set match

Ah we’re back on this train are we?

It seems to fly between “we don’t want him anyway” to “let’s get him to stuff the system”

Which is it?

 

[Shinboner1]

Hope we go Sanders and McKercher.

2 more midfielders?

 

[Tas]

Yep let’s draft mids galore instead

Even when next years draft has better mids
Idiotic

And give me watto over anyone bar Reid in the draft any day of the week on talent alone

If we recruit players who have an immediate impact like Sheezel and Wardlaw (when he was able to play), we might improve to a point we wont get another look at a top end pick for some time, so we wont know where we will be in the draft next year, or how much fo the talent reaches expectation. You can't really crystal ball too far into the future.

West Coast had a strong midfield group before they drafted Judd, was that a mistake? Their forward line was garbage. In the end, Judd was what took a good midfield group and turned it into a premiership team and it ceased to be when he left. I am not saying we are in the same position or anyone in the draft is Judd-esque, but your focus should be on bringing in elite talent. We are a bottom 2 team because our midfield isn't good enough. I am not sure how anyone has the confidence that it is complete and we can invest heavily in fringe areas of the game like small forwards. We can't get the ball inside 50 enough.

 

[tiltraise]

Would we consider something like this?

In: 8, 25
Out: 15, 17, 18

Leaves us with

2, 3, 8, 25, 57

 

[R00StaR]

2 more midfielders?

McKercher on a wing

 

[My Left Foote]

If we recruit players who have an immediate impact like Sheezel and Wardlaw (when he was able to play), we might improve to a point we wont get another look at a top end pick for some time, so we wont know where we will be in the draft next year, or how much fo the talent reaches expectation. You can't really crystal ball too far into the future.

West Coast had a strong midfield group before they drafted Judd, was that a mistake? Their forward line was garbage. In the end, Judd was what took a good midfield group and turned it into a premiership team and it ceased to be when he left. I am not saying we are in the same position or anyone in the draft is Judd-esque, but your focus should be on bringing in elite talent. We are a bottom 2 team because our midfield isn't good enough. I am not sure how anyone has the confidence that it is complete and we can invest heavily in fringe areas of the game like small forwards. We can't get the ball inside 50 enough.

Nail > Head

 

[perplexed]

If we recruit players who have an immediate impact like Sheezel and Wardlaw (when he was able to play), we might improve to a point we wont get another look at a top end pick for some time, so we wont know where we will be in the draft next year, or how much fo the talent reaches expectation. You can't really crystal ball too far into the future.

West Coast had a strong midfield group before they drafted Judd, was that a mistake? Their forward line was garbage. In the end, Judd was what took a good midfield group and turned it into a premiership team and it ceased to be when he left. I am not saying we are in the same position or anyone in the draft is Judd-esque, but your focus should be on bringing in elite talent. We are a bottom 2 team because our midfield isn't good enough. I am not sure how anyone has the confidence that it is complete and we can invest heavily in fringe areas of the game like small forwards. We can't get the ball inside 50 enough.

Not sure you can really say our midfield isn't good enough. This season was such a mess that our best midfield has never even played together.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Would we consider something like this?

In: 8, 25
Out: 15, 17, 18

Leaves us with

2, 3, 8, 25, 57

Someone else also raised that but overs imo

15 and 18 for 8 is fair

 

[Harris 10]

Would we consider something like this?

In: 8, 25
Out: 15, 17, 18

Leaves us with

2, 3, 8, 25, 57

Chuck in a F2 or F3 from the Cats and I’d do it.

 

[tiltraise]

Someone else also raised that but overs imo

15 and 18 for 8 is fair

Cant see that getting it done perhaps with an F3 thrown in.

 

[tiltraise]

Chuck in a F2 or F3 from the Cats and I’d do it.

Yeah thats a decent call.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

Pick 8 will most likely yield O'Sullivan or Caddy.

Pick 15 & 18 become 20 & 23 on draft night, two players from (probably):

Hardeman, Tholstrup, DeMattia, A.Reid, Roberts, Green, Collard, Edwards x 2.

Can't see the Catters entertaining that swap.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Pick 8 will most likely yield O'Sullivan or Caddy.

Pick 15 & 18 become 20 & 23 on draft night, two players from (probably):

Hardeman, Tholstrup, DeMattia, A.Reid, Roberts, Green, Collard, Edwards x 2.

Can't see the Catters entertaining that swap.

Think of it as 8,25,60 and 61 vs 15,18, 25 and 60

They only have 2 decent picks atm
Splitting 8 to get the more spread out hand could appeal

They have spots to fill after not bringing in anyone

 

[amaz199]

We can't trade with WCE if they want pick 2 or 3. It means we're literally going up one spot and giving away a freebie first rounder (most likely).

Stupid. Either they take our later firsts or get ****ed.

 

[The Nostradamus]

We can't trade with WCE if they want pick 2 or 3. It means we're literally going up one spot and giving away a freebie first rounder (most likely).

Stupid. Either they take our later firsts or get ****ed.

Don’t worry we’ve e already said that we won’t do that first deal

 

[kool kangas]

Someone else also raised that but overs imo

15 and 18 for 8 is fair

If North want Pick#8 that much then overs is what we might have to pay for once...2,3,8,25,and 57 is still a pretty good hand and maybe we might be able to use pick 25 and 1 of our futures (but not 1) for something closer as well..