List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[Wonderdog]

44. CamZ

The Bull is the team’s energiser bunny. When he gets on a roll the team lifts around him. Has started the last two seasons slowly and came home well which might be a pointer to his pre-season training. He is really a third forward or medium forward but lack of tall targets has meant he has played as the second tall. The addition of Sheez and Curtis will help as they provide aerial targets. Some midfield minutes will be handy too.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Carlton will have a fight to keep DeKoning away from Geelong.

Cap space is going to be a big issue for them.

Even though we have no chance we should put in a big offer anyway that his manager can leverage and fleece the other clubs to up their offer in turn messing up their caps

 

[Shinboner1]

Wouldn't be surprised if we've decided to trail a few of the kids this year in the 2s with the view of picking someone up ala box Hill style. Lots of good former AFL players this year.

 

[Fish Sticks]

Can’t help you with your luck 1 fantasy but this is my early prediction for list turn over;

Kept

1. Bonar - if the body gives him a full year
2. Comben - lock
3. Perez - lock
4. Free - if he plays well 1 year ext
5. Greenwood - if he plays well 1 year ext
6. Archer - lock
7. Edwards
8. Goater - lock
9. Young - lock
10. Bergman - lock
11. Goldy - the body willing and not overtaken

Gone

• Hall - retire
• Howe - retire
• Ziebell - retire
• Turner
• Spicer
• Mahony

Howe won’t be retiring, he only just turned 27. We may delist him if he doesn’t play many games or gets a significant injury, but he isn’t retiring.

Not sure of Greenwood’s contract status… It’s been said he has already triggered a third year (2024)?
If not, you would think he needs to have a very good season or at least find another position, as we have a lot of young quality midfielders needing to get significant midfield minutes - Phillips, Powell, Wardlaw.

Young is an interesting one, he was great last year & had won over even the biggest crictics by season’s end, but I’m not sure he is a 100% lock if he doesn’t back it up this year, with competition for spots across half back pretty hot.

Edwards would need to show some improvement this season. He is a long way off it currently, but as we all know ‘big men take time’ & I’m happy to keep him on given our lack of big men.

A lot of players playing for their careers this year!
We can’t cut 9-10 blokes unless we are bringing in a host of players from other teams via trade & FA.
Players like Spicer & Mahoney may even find themselves with new contracts if they have really good seasons, although unlikely.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

From AFL.com

Average age of list at round one, 2023
Geelong, Western Bulldogs	25.3
Brisbane	25.1
Collingwood, Richmond	25
Gold Coast, Melbourne	24.7
Carlton	24.6
West Coast	24.4
Port Adelaide, St Kilda	24.3
Greater Western Sydney	24.1
Fremantle, North Melbourne, Sydney	24
Essendon	23.8
Adelaide	23.7
Hawthorn	22.9

	Average number of games played on list
Geelong	92.4
Melbourne	84.9
Richmond	83
Brisbane	78.1
Western Bulldogs	75.8
Collingwood	75.1
West Coast	74.3
Sydney	69.5
Port Adelaide	67.9
Carlton	65
North Melbourne	64.4
St Kilda	64.1
Gold Coast	63.5
Greater Western Sydney	58.5
Essendon	56.2
Fremantle	55.3
Adelaide	51.7
Hawthorn	42.6

 

[The Y Factor]

Howe won’t be retiring, he only just turned 27. We may delist him if he doesn’t play many games or gets a significant injury, but he isn’t retiring.

Not sure of Greenwood’s contract status… It’s been said he has already triggered a third year (2024)?
If not, you would think he needs to have a very good season or at least find another position, as we have a lot of young quality midfielders needing to get significant midfield minutes - Phillips, Powell, Wardlaw.

Young is an interesting one, he was great last year & had won over even the biggest crictics by season’s end, but I’m not sure he is a 100% lock if he doesn’t back it up this year, with competition for spots across half back pretty hot.

Edwards would need to show some improvement this season. He is a long way off it currently, but as we all know ‘big men take time’ & I’m happy to keep him on given our lack of big men.

A lot of players playing for their careers this year!
We can’t cut 9-10 blokes unless we are bringing in a host of players from other teams via trade & FA.
Players like Spicer & Mahoney may even find themselves with new contracts if they have really good seasons, although unlikely.

Yeah - agree, all of my ‘locks’ are only locks if the continue on the same tragectory. I think they would all need to perform well to be a lock.

I think it’s also important we get some stability so anything could happen.

Didn’t realise Howe was so young, well it’s up to him to make himself too valuable to let go!

 

[ferball]

1. Bonar
2. Howe
3. Free
4. Mahony
5. Edwards
6. Spicer

Would all be half a chance.

I'm thinking Bonar, Howe, Free and Edwards.

Mahony went bacwards last year, might turn it around under a different coach.

 

[Wonderdog]

45. The Free kick

Last one!

I was a bit surprised when we recruited another pure ruckman as Goldy, X and CCJ seemed to be enough. If nothing else his recruitment will protect Edwards and Chom from doing much rucking in the VFL. He’s a big unit but mobility may be an issue. Still now he has a chance in an élite environment so the improvement might be significant and quick and it might need to be.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Orange Peanut]

I normally wouldn't want an Essendon player, but now that Redmam has proven himself by snotting Stringer, I'd be open to it.

 

[King Corey]

We need this McKay contract stitched up ASAP.

 

[Harris 10]

It's not a great list of free agents and we have a lot to play with where the current list to see what players make it.

The one that probably interests me the most and who i think might be gettable is Gresham.

 

[shinboner magic]

It's not a great list of free agents and we have a lot to play with where the current list to see what players make it.

The one that probably interests me the most and who i think might be gettable is Gresham.

Very injury prone is gresh

 

[Harris 10]

Very injury prone is gresh

Has been, he's only 25 so still has a lot of footy left.

As i said a lot to play out this year with our list, but a fit Gresham is a big improvement on what similar players from our list have produced.

 

[Farthers]

Lock ’em up: Which 2021 AFL first-round draftees are yet to re-sign?

AFL list managers typically prefer to extend their first-round draft picks before their second season starts, but there are still six players from 2021 yet to do so.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Psicosis]

We need this McKay contract stitched up ASAP.

I'll be pretty concerned if it gets to round 1 without a resolution. If it's not done by the bye, he's gone.

 

[shinboner magic]

I'll be pretty concerned if it gets to round 1 without a resolution. If it's not done by the bye, he's gone.

He’ll be re-signed before the bye - doesn’t look the type to want the attention it’d cause

 

[The Nostradamus]

It's not a great list of free agents and we have a lot to play with where the current list to see what players make it.

The one that probably interests me the most and who i think might be gettable is Gresham.

Gresh would be good. Hopefully has a good relationship with ratten

As mentioned the free agent list is grim
1: himmelberg
2: gresh
3: Dylan moore
4: doedee

 

[roos 10]

Gresh would be good. Hopefully has a good relationship with ratten

As mentioned the free agent list is grim
1: himmelberg
2: gresh
3: Dylan moore
4: doedee

I would have all off them

 

[r_boy]

I think we should have a go at trading for Finn Callaghan or Hayden Young (I know I'm a broken record). Offer one of our first's +/- change should get it done if they are happy to come across.

Clarko needs his left footed distributor and there aren't any obvious candidates in next year's draft as yet. Even if there were we would need to wait for them to get up to speed physically whereas these blokes not so much.

Hopefully Callaghan's foot is okay, we were into him big at the draft I seem to recall if not for Judas.

 

[year of the roo]

I would have all off them

Nah you'd only go Doedee if McKay leaves. Having Corr, Logue and Doedee on the list as high-profile tall defender recruits is just too much.

 

[New_Roo]

Nah you'd only go Doedee if McKay leaves. Having Corr, Logue and Doedee on the list as high-profile tall defender recruits is just too much.

Not sure you can say that he would be surplus to our needs... take our current situation as an example.

But moot pt though as can't see doodee leaving, isn't he the captain or at least leadership seems too entrenched.... but he is a vic


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[shinboner magic]

Think it might be better listing the players out of contract at end of 23.
FA look thin in quality

 

[kool kangas]

We need this McKay contract stitched up ASAP.

Patience is a virtue...All good things come to those who wait...In Time..

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

I'll be pretty concerned if it gets to round 1 without a resolution. If it's not done by the bye, he's gone.

Why would he re-sign soon? Only going to look better with Logue alongside him and better coaching. Manager isn't doing his job if he signs anytime soon.