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List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

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Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.
  • Mac Andrew
  • Hunter Clark
  • Zac Fisher
  • Sam Flanders
  • Mitch Georgiades
  • Liam Henry
  • Dougal Howard
  • Lewis Melican
  • Jack Silvagni
  • Dylan Stephens
  • Adam Tomlinson
 
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The Nostradamus said:
nah thats no fun

and we can do better with that

i'd be giving the future second for hunter clark or bergman
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It would keep the post rates up all year.
 

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We genuinely talking about Jack Graham here?

In what world would we need another inside mid?? Thats what he is.
 
HBFlanker said:
We genuinely talking about Jack Graham here?

In what world would we need another inside mid?? Thats what he is.
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Weekend just gone?
 
B & C graders out of contract the fill a need list:

Nic Newman
Ryan Lester
Nathan Wilson
James Jordon
Riley Bonner
Jack Graham
Zak Jones
Dylan Stephens
Alex Witherden
Roarke Smith
 
Sheezel2Wardlaw said:
B & C graders out of contract the fill a need list:

Nic Newman
Ryan Lester
Nathan Wilson
James Jordon
Riley Bonner
Jack Graham
Zak Jones
Dylan Stephens
Alex Witherden
Roarke Smith
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When are you posting the list of the B and C graders?

Edit - I should add I’m not suggesting they’re not good enough to get in our side. D graders are sought to improve our defence for starters.
 
Sheezel2Wardlaw said:
B & C graders out of contract the fill a need list:

Nic Newman
Ryan Lester
Nathan Wilson
James Jordon
Riley Bonner
Jack Graham
Zak Jones
Dylan Stephens
Alex Witherden
Roarke Smith
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Dylan Stephens would be worth a look. And no, he is not a south Australian
 

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AFL 2023: A first rounder if he leaves: How a deal for this Giant can impact the draft
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A first-rounder if he leaves: How a deal for this Giant can impact the draft​


Highly sought key-position free agent Harrison Himmelberg is all but certain to fetch a first-round draft pick in compensation – reshaping the draft and trading landscape for other clubs – if he opts to leave the club.

Himmelberg’s contract offer to stay with Greater Western Sydney – estimated by industry insiders to be more than $700,000 per season over five years – virtually ensures that he would earn his current club a first-round compensation pick if he departed as a restricted free agent.

[PLAYERCARD]Toby Bedford[/PLAYERCARD] and Harry Himmelberg celebrate the Giants’ win over Fremantle.
Toby Bedford and Harry Himmelberg celebrate the Giants’ win over Fremantle.Credit: AFL Photos

Sydney is among a host of clubs who have shown interest in the 27-year-old, who has not met with rival clubs and is yet to decide on his future, according to a source familiar with Himmelberg’s intentions.

A GWS club source said that the Giants would also consider matching any contract offer if they felt they could gain a better deal than the compensation selection. GWS took this step when superstar free agent Jeremy Cameron was crossing to Geelong, earning the club three late first-rounders rather than one first-round choice.

Should Himmelberg leave – on a contract that earns a first-round pick, in the manner of Joe Daniher moving on from Essendon in 2020 – the Giants would very likely enter the trade period with three top-10 selections, allowing them to make a strong bid for prospective pick No.1 Harley Reid by striking a deal with West Coast, or to make another significant trade.

It would also push back other clubs’ selections in the opening round. On current ladder standings, GWS hold picks eight and 10 – the latter from Richmond (secured in the Jacob Hopper deal).

If Himmelberg left and earned a first-round compensation, they would have picks 8, 9 and 10 – similar to Essendon when Daniher and Adam Saad departed. The Tigers and Giants have their bye this weekend, so could lose ground to Gold Coast, Geelong, and Fremantle on the ladder and move up the draft pecking order.

As with Daniher and the Lions, a club bidding for Himmelberg would recognise that they would find it easier to pay him enough to earn the top level of free agent compensation – more than $800,000, list managers believe – than to hand over picks or a player in a trade.

While excellent compensation is assured if Himmelberg opted to leave, the Giants sorely want to retain him, recognising his value as a key-position player who can play at both ends. He is one of the best of a relatively weak field of free agents, headed by Essendon pair Darcy Parish and Mason Redman. The club says there has been no sign that Himmelberg wishes to leave.

GWS have less need for picks than for retaining their better players and building maturity in a list that regularly loses recruits who wish to either go home or to find better opportunities or a contract that the Giants cannot afford.

The club has indicated they would explore a trade for pick No.1 and the rights to Victorian country teenager Reid, whom West Coast would have the rights to if they remain 18th.
The Eagles opted to split pick No.2 into a pair of first-rounders (eight and 12) in 2022, drafting locals Reuben Ginbey and Elijah Hewett.

This deal was part of the overlapping trades that enabled Jason Horne-Francis to become a Port Adelaide player, North Melbourne to move from pick one to picks two and three (Harry Sheezel and George Wardlaw) and the Giants to move up to the first selection (Aaron Cadman).
 
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Would hate to see any shenanigans causing overs in compo pushing clubs picks back. They should really come down hard on it like they did with Daniher.
 
To me it creates the argument that the maximum free agency compensation should be end of first round.

That is, all teams should have their first round pick protected from being pushed back.

Of course, this change should come after we receive compo pick 3 for McKay, though I'm probably in the minority that would prefer he stays.

Or alternatively, clubs acquiring a free agent should give up something (draft pick points or the like).
 
KekiRoo said:
To me it creates the argument that the maximum free agency compensation should be end of first round.

That is, all teams should have their first round pick protected from being pushed back.

Of course, this change should come after we receive compo pick 3 for McKay, though I'm probably in the minority that would prefer he stays.

Or alternatively, clubs acquiring a free agent should give up something (draft pick points or the like).
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So father sons and academy picks inside the top 18 should go too? They have been huge the last few years. And next year.
 

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Lomas said:
Weekend just gone?
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So we are going to bring in Jack Graham who you think will get game time in front of Wardlaw, Phillips, LDU and Simpkin in the middle? Then add in Powell as well as the polish of Thomas.

Remembering we will still have Cunnington on the list as he is contracted for 2024.

Jack Graham is literally the last bloke we need. He would get no where near our midfield in 2024.
 
Lomas said:
So father sons and academy picks inside the top 18 should go too? They have been huge the last few years. And next year.
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Hmm, tricky one. Even though yes, the father sons push your pick back, it's a player you didn't really have access to in the first place, so doesn't necessarily reduce the pool of available players to that club.

Academies make things a mess. The fact that the AFL removed the discount for NGA academies but left it in place for the Northern academies made it messier. Either leave it in place for all or none.
 
HBFlanker said:
We genuinely talking about Jack Graham here?

In what world would we need another inside mid?? Thats what he is.
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You honestly believe he’s limited to being an inside mid?
He can play a variety of roles, from wing, inside mid, defensive mid, high half forward.

He’s a proven big game player, he’s been massive in two GF’s, destroying Sloane when given the job and kicking 3 in another. His PF when playing with a dislocated shoulder showed how courageous and selfless he is.

We are losing Shiels, Cunners and Greenwood, he’s a perfect age to help guide and develop our young kids.

He would walk into our side this year, next year and beyond.
 
Harris 10 said:
You honestly believe he’s limited to being an inside mid?
He can play a variety of roles, from wing, inside mid, defensive mid, high half forward.

He’s a proven big game player, he’s been massive in two GF’s, destroying Sloane when given the job and kicking 3 in another. His PF when playing with a dislocated shoulder showed how courageous and selfless he is.

We are losing Shiels, Cunners and Greenwood, he’s a perfect age to help guide and develop our young kids.

He would walk into our side this year, next year and beyond.
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Would go back to SA if anywhere you'd think. Was close to leaving last year IIRC?

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Harris 10 said:
You honestly believe he’s limited to being an inside mid?
He can play a variety of roles, from wing, inside mid, defensive mid, high half forward.

He’s a proven big game player, he’s been massive in two GF’s, destroying Sloane when given the job and kicking 3 in another. His PF when playing with a dislocated shoulder showed how courageous and selfless he is.

We are losing Shiels, Cunners and Greenwood, he’s a perfect age to help guide and develop our young kids.

He would walk into our side this year, next year and beyond.
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Yes i do think hes limited, and not at all worth giving up draft capital for.

He was in the right place at the right time in terms of being drafted to Richmond. Hes a good player, but not for us in my opinion.
 
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