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List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

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Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.
  • Mac Andrew
  • Hunter Clark
  • Zac Fisher
  • Sam Flanders
  • Mitch Georgiades
  • Liam Henry
  • Dougal Howard
  • Lewis Melican
  • Jack Silvagni
  • Dylan Stephens
  • Adam Tomlinson
 
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We want McKay to stay, says Clarkson​





Alastair Clarkson is hopeful of convincing free agent Ben McKay to remain at North Melbourne but is confident the club will prosper whatever the key defender decides.

McKay, 25, is reported to have attracted interest from rival clubs as he becomes a restricted free agent at the end of the AFL season, his eighth with the Kangaroos.

Four-time premiership coach Clarkson is no stranger to free agency, having seen superstar forward Lance Franklin leave Hawthorn to sign a nine-year contract with Sydney at the peak of his career in 2013.

"We want him to stay," Clarkson said of McKay at Arden St on Thursday.

"But I've been involved in this caper for a long, long period of time and there's probably no bigger player in the game than 'Buddy' Franklin.

"He was one of the first of the first free agent players to leave. And we weren't happy with it at the time because we obviously wanted him to stay at Hawthorn.

"But the club was still able to prosper once he left. He was also able to prosper as a player (at Sydney), and so everyone can still win from these situations.

"So if Ben decides to stay … we feel like he's just ready to blossom into a really, really good key defender. He's already a good key defender, but his best seven or eight years should be in front of him now.

"But if he was to leave, then that's his choice. That's the whole situation with free agency, and you've got to be prepared for both sides."

Clarkson said there had been "ongoing dialogue" with McKay, and it was unlikely the big defender had already made up his mind.

"The culture of our game is you don't usually make your decision until the season's finished," Clarkson said.

"That's what we'd expect and we'll probably find out in two or three weeks' time."

Veteran Liam Shiels is another whose future will be decided in the off-season, and Clarkson said the club's need to keep a blend of youth and experience would be considered when making decisions about the playing list.

Kangaroos legend Jack Ziebell plays his final game on Saturday against Richmond at the MCG, following last week's farewell to club champ Ben Cunnington and the retirement of 161-gamer Aaron Hall.

"We've got to be mindful of the balance of our list and the amount of experienced guys that go off the list," Clarkson said.

"It's one thing to go really, really skinny in terms of experience, and another where you want to actually keep some of that experience around, too.

"So with the retirements of 'Ziebs' (Jack Ziebell) and 'Hally' (Aaron Hall) and also 'Cunners' (Ben Cunnington), that might play into our thinking that Shiels might play for another year, but we'll work that out in the fullness of time.

"It's the same with 'Goldy' (Todd Goldstein), too."

Good to have you back Al.

I've missed you.
 

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‘NORTH OR NOTHING’ PROSPECT FOR EAGLES AS TOP WA STAR IMPRESSES AGAIN

Top WA prospect Daniel Curtin continues to enhance his prospects, with the Claremont star producing another impressive outing at the top WAFL level.

After a strong 21-disposal, four-mark display against East Fremantle, Curtin backed it up against Peel Thunder – Fremantle’s WAFL affiliate – last weekend, finishing with 20 disposals, six marks and three rebound 50s, with his first-half performance particularly noteworthy.

While Dockers-listed players Matt Taberner (2 goals), Bailey Banfield (4) and Liam Reidy (2) all played on Saturday, Curtin spent most of the game manned up on 191cm Peel-listed forward Ben Middleton, who ended up kicking three second-half goals.

Foxfooty.com.au understands West Coast list manager Rohan O’Brien and recruiting boss Duane Massey were both at Lane Group Stadium watching the Peel-Claremont clash. Despite not formally interviewing Curtin prior to last weekend’s match, the Eagles have been strongly linked to the versatile 195cm prospect, who was WA’s national championships MVP after showing ample class playing as both a key defender and midfielder.

West Coast seems destined to finish on the bottom of this year’s AFL ladder, which would subsequently hand it Pick 1 in the national draft.


Daniel Curtin of Western Australia. Picture: Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images

Daniel Curtin of Western Australia. Picture: Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty ImagesSource: Getty Images

Powerful and versatile 185cm Bendigo Pioneers Harley Reid is widely tipped to be taken with Pick 1 in this year’s draft after a stellar junior footy campaign. The question is, though, which club will hold the first selection, with speculation West Coast could be open to trading the pick.

Multiple clubs suggested to foxfooty.com.au last month the Eagles might be prepared to slide down the order if they could ‘guarantee’ Curtin would still be available at their new pick.

And considering Curtin has now established himself as a top-five talent, the Eagles couldn’t afford to slide too far down the order if they’re, indeed, keen to acquire the local star.

While Melbourne, which holds Picks 5, 15, 24 and 34 as it stands, has been linked to a potential play for the top draft selection, the sense among clubs is that North Melbourne would be the only club West Coast would deal with should it wish to trade Pick 1. One recruiter told foxfooty.com.au: “It’d be North or nothing.”

The Kangaroos hold Picks 2 and 16, while most expect them to be handed a compensation selection for losing free agent Ben McKay, who remains unsigned beyond this season. That pick could land after North’s natural first-round, which would be Pick 3.

North Melbourne last month indicated it was keen to draft a key defender this year, with list boss Brady Rawlings telling members he was “aware we haven’t picked very tall over recent seasons”. Rival clubs said they could see the Kangaroos taking Curtin with a top pick, but also wouldn’t be surprised if North made a play for West Coast’s No. 1 selection and, subsequently, Reid.

While Curtin was impressing for Claremont, Peel Thunder on-baller Clay Hall continued to boost his prospects ahead of the draft.

Playing his seventh WAFL league game of the season, Hall racked up 20 disposals and three tackles playing for the Dockers’ affiliate side.

Hall, the son of former Eagles and Cats forward Derek Hall, has put together an excellent 2023 campaign, both at WAFL and national championships level, to put himself in the early second-round draft mix. He’s an appealing midfielder for AFL clubs considering his professionalism, size and outstanding aerobic capacity, with one scout indicating he’d be in the first-round mix if his decision-making improved.

“It’d be North or nothing.” Finally they get it!
 
Disagree. Played less than 15 games. Been down this year however showed alot last year.

Let’s be honest, he walks into our 22 and suits our age demographic. Upside is enormous.

Only issue is we have a development issue….
I hate the development issues business . During my long drive home today tonight I had that very discussion.
You canny develop some successfully and others not so.
You can’t a make a silk purse out of a shitmen. As the old saying goes

Imo of course
 

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Elijah hollands dropped completely out of suns squad…. We should be having a huge go.
Lost a lot of his pace and athleticism with the acl. His tank is still a work in progress.
 

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Disagree. Played less than 15 games. Been down this year however showed alot last year.

Let’s be honest, he walks into our 22 and suits our age demographic. Upside is enormous.

Only issue is we have a development issue….

His issue is he has no defensive side, lacks an athletic point of difference and he's a forward flanker or nothing. Unless the ball is in his hands, he's hurting the team.

We don't need this type of player.
 
Right now, based on next year's current draft rankings for 2024 (Davo-07), they are going to be mids again. Even yesterday, Twomey said there's no star factor in the 2024 crop and clubs are looking to trade into the top 10 this year.

1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh(VC) 181cm - mid
2. Sid Draper - South Adelaide - 178cm - mid
3. Tyler Welsh - WWT/Adel FS - 192cm - forw
4. Phoenix Hargrave - South Adelaide - 181cm - mid/forw
5. Levi Ashcroft - Sand/Bris FS - 179cm - mid/forw
6. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm - mid/hbf
7. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 188cm - mid/forw
8. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm - mid
9. Nash King - Calder - 181cm - mid
10. Lucca Grego - Western - 183cm - mid
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm - def
12. Tom Evans - Bendigo - 180cm - mid
13. Rhys Unwin - GWV - 177cm - forw/mid
14. Benny Barrett - South Adelaide - 174cm - forw/mid
15. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 178cm - forw/mid
16. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm - mid
17. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - mid/def
18. Jayden Nguyen - Calder/Ess NGA - 177cm - wing
19. Kade Herbert - WWT - 183cm - mid
20. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm - mid
21. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm - ruck/kpp (recent growth spurt from 190-198cm)
22. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm - mid
23. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 188cm - def/mid
24. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 185cm - mid/forw
25. Sam Marshall - Sand/Bris A - 185cm - mid
26. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm - mid
27. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm - mid
28. Deian Roberts - Peel - 185cm - mid
29. Isaac Kako - Calder/Ess NGA - 175cm - forw
30. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm - mid
31. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm - mid
32. Louie Montgomery - North Adel/Port FS - 190cm - def
33. Charlie Hewitt - Brisbane A - 198cm - kpf/ruck
34. Christian Moraes - Eastern/Haw NGA - 182cm - mid
35. Chayse Martinson - Swan Dist - 180cm - mid
36. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm - mid/forw
37. Caleb Nancarrow - GCS A/Oak - 191cm - forw
38. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo - 193cm - forw
39. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 175cm - mid
40. Thomas Legudi - Calder - 177cm - forw/mid
41. Bo Allan - Peel - 189cm - def
42. Ned Atkinson - Sturt - 180cm - mid
43. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm - def
44. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm - mid/def
45. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - def
46. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tasmania - 177cm - mid
47. Hugh Boxshall - Claremont - 187cm - def
48. Jack Ough - GWV - 191cm - forw
49. Wil Thomas - Sturt - forw/mid
50. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - mid
Luke Trainor Will go a lot higher than 43 IMO. Already 193 and can play. BFNAAK and Doug Wade’s grandson.
 
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