List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[hayes]

Have a look at the last line of defence in the All Australian side this year and tell me it’s not worth using late picks on tall defenders

Sicily, Stewart and Wilkie are probably more third tall size. The hit rate for picks that high is probably low anyway but surely it’s even lower for key defenders.

 

[Premium]

Sicily, Stewart and Wilkie are probably more third tall size. The hit rate for picks that high is probably low anyway but surely it’s even lower for key defenders.

You know key tall defenders are scarce as hens teeth when the Lions had Joyce playing in the seniors.

 

[St Neil]

Peris probably the only one surprising. Highmore not included is a bigger surprise for me.

Interesting with Adams being delisted - while he wasn't close to getting a game, it would heighten the need to find another KPD if we do trade Howard.

My hunch is they have another player in mind to replace Adams on the list. Possibly a trade.

Surprised they let Peris go. Really surprised. But they are the experts, I’m just a supporter.

Also surprised that Highmore hasn’t been axed. Maybe he will be traded to another club.

 

[EddieMurphy]

Sometimes we can over value a player's capability when they are on our list. When they eventually get cut we think how unlucky they were, but then surprise, surprise no one else picks them up and they just fade into obscurity.

A few names I had high hopes for but who just disappeared from the scene include Siposs, Spencer White, Markworth, Brandon White, even Freeman. There would be heaps of others but their names are now long forgotten.

I think both Bytel and Highmore (if delisted) are capable of a spot on North or the Eagles lists but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get picked up either.

Dunny probably had more exposed form than all of them

 

[beside the seaside]

Seems strange that we lack speed and forward pressure and still delist Peris.

Tough calls. The rest aren’t surprising. I expect a few more after the trade period is done.

Peris will feel that he didnt get to show what he had. But at the end of the day the coaches just don't think he's good enough.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

My hunch is they have another player in mind to replace Adams on the list. Possibly a trade.

Surprised they let Peris go. Really surprised. But they are the experts, I’m just a supporter.

Also surprised that Highmore hasn’t been axed. Maybe he will be traded to another club.

Peris was of course quick.

And he seemed to tackle well; really well.

But from what I could tell he struggled to get possessions and to kick goals. And I’m not sure that scenario was trending sufficiently upwards.

Disappointed for the lad because he seemed like a great kid with a lot of energy.

But I just think those closest to him, who witness what he offers on a daily basis, have concluded he just won’t make it.

A shame but probably the correct call.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

What did Jack Bytel ever do to deserve so many fan boys?
Highmore has interest from Kangaroos, and Campbell has been told that we are waiting on other potential list moves to decide on his future.
Billings and Clark are gone imo. We want Coff to stay but I’ve heard are only currently offering a 1 year deal with a games trigger for a second, hence why other clubs are sniffing around.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Sicily, Stewart and Wilkie are probably more third tall size. The hit rate for picks that high is probably low anyway but surely it’s even lower for key defenders.

Good defenders who go later or miss the draft because they are shortasses.
In the case of Wilkie picked up later due to remarkable form at state level.

Wilkie is great , but remains too short.

Similarly Hayes is a good ruck forward, but is too short.

 

[botts]

What did Jack Bytel ever do to deserve so many fan boys?
Highmore has interest from Kangaroos, and Campbell has been told that we are waiting on other potential list moves to decide on his future.
Billings and Clark are gone imo. We want Coff to stay but I’ve heard are only currently offering a 1 year deal with a games trigger for a second, hence why other clubs are sniffing around.

Just give Coff two

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Just give Coff two

He’s missed two years of footy, a one plus one is a fair offer.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

He’s missed two years of footy, a one plus one is a fair offer.

It is fair but how badly do we want him to stay

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Melbourne should have a crack at JB

 

[Sniffy Jenkins]

Henry will slide into the #23 with Bytel gone.

With Adams delisted Highmore more likely to stay for depth. Less likely to move Dougal unless the offer is pretty good.

 

[moirae42]

Bytel was a gun junior.
Talked up top three in his year until he rooted his back.
Took a punt. Put a lot into him and he did get a few looks.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Steele to WC?
Plus pick exchange to get it done?

Thanks Flamingo

 

[JediSaint]

The Peris delisting is also interesting in terms of Gresh still unsigned and Billings likely leaving.

Leaves us with no extra small forwards on the list. Another area we will likely be looking add too in the draft/trade.

I wonder with all this talk about Dougal going to the dogs, wonder if we will player swap plus picks for Charlie Clark.

Small fwd from Sandy Dragons pick up last year by dogs 2nd rnd pick.

Can’t see him getting a game with Dogs, we will be needing a small fwd.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Oscar Adam's de-listed and Maynard free to play - and here's me thinking my contempt for the AFL couldn't get any greater.

 

[bird_man]

Sicily, Stewart and Wilkie are probably more third tall size. The hit rate for picks that high is probably low anyway but surely it’s even lower for key defenders.

Wilkie is clearly a key defender, despite his height.

Disagree on the hit rate. I think the percentage of key defenders taken later in the draft would be just as high if not higher than most positions.

You just have to scroll through the last few all australian sides. Wilkie, Andrews, Aliir, McGovern, Grimes, Stewart...

I'd happy happy with any of them.

 

[Sniffy Jenkins]

Oscar Adam's de-listed and Maynard free to play - and here's me thinking my contempt for the AFL couldn't get any greater.

No luck recently with developing tall defenders. Clavarino now Adams.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

No luck recently with developing tall defenders. Clavarino now Adams.

Goddard too.
They are hit or miss for sure.

Joyce actually our best "developed" tall defender.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Wilkie is 191cm and 87kg , why is he in the conversation?

 

[puppy_dog7]

Henry is a wingman

Yes he is. A wing/HF

I dare say we are looking to be more flexible, and after Hills performance playing HF I’d say we will look to utilise him and Henry in that rotating wing half forward role.

If one is playing forward then with Butler and Higgins and possibly Gresh where does Peris fit?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I wonder if i earned $90K per year from 18 to 22, how much i'd have saved and how much i'd have frittered away.

 

[stavro#4]

I wonder if i earned $90K per year from 18 to 22, how much i'd have saved and how much i'd have frittered away.

If your agent only gives you access to half of what you earn…..

A lot

 

[OxSaint]

Looking at Cals Phantom form guide and it looks like our pick will end up at 17. Not a lot of joy in Mids that far back. More likely a key defender of halfback. Riley Hardeman sound like he might suit in that range. Anyone know anything about him?