List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[stavro#4]

Finally some sanity.

As I posted last night, Sheil is dogs.hit, Saints indicate they feel the same.

Would rather nail it shut and take whatever compo we get.
Fancy Essendon believing we would give them a leg up with a player a frdp and taking their overpaid garbage and it is a win for us.

F'kn knobs

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Settle.

The fact I heard it, means we have an interest.

If the compo is a second rounder. I’d rather keep Gresham

 

[stavro#4]

I must be taking crazy pills but I reckon Shiel would walk into our midfield and improve it. I'd only take him if it's a freebie, at his age he's worth nothing but he's not dogshit. He can be a good option for us IF he's fit and IF he's free.

I agree with you.

But I’m not willing to get bent over and hand them pick 13

 

[Joffaboy]

Settle.

The fact I heard it, means we have an interest.

If the compo is a second rounder. I’d rather keep Gresham

I don't mind if we keep Gres, don't mind a second, don't mind if we match and trade, I DO mind giving Essendon a player and us taking their overpaid gops without us getting excellent compensation.

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[George]

Sam Edmund saying Dow to Stkilda is not a certainty

Thank God

 

[stavro#4]

Thank God

Please.

Shiel Haynes Lobb aren’t much better at this point

 

[Joffaboy]

Please.

Shiel Haynes Lobb aren’t much better at this point [emoji23]

But Jonas and Boak.......

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[snails13]

Do any of these media reporters do research .
I just read an article on here from HS that Saints set to secure Henry and Dow,then 1 page later Edmunds saying Dow no certainty.?

 

[Sully111]

Do any of these media reporters do research .
I just read an article on here from HS that Saints set to secure Henry and Dow,then 1 page later Edmunds saying Dow no certainty.?

It's almost like they state things as fact without knowing for sure

 

[George]

Please.

Shiel Haynes Lobb aren’t much better at this point

No I think they're all shit lol

 

[stavro#4]

But Jonas and Boak.......

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At this point it kinda proves I was right when I said Jonas was somewhere on the list of KpD we were willing to look at (not saying he was anywhere near the top)

 

[stavro#4]

No I think they're all s**t lol

Shit is synonymous with this club

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Do any of these media reporters do research .
I just read an article on here from HS that Saints set to secure Henry and Dow,then 1 page later Edmunds saying Dow no certainty.?

It's almost like they state things as fact without knowing for sure

So what you’re really saying is that deep down all of us are…




…..media reporters

 

[phantom13]

"St.Kilda isnt pushing the Shiel/Gresham deal"

Well no ****ing shit geniuses. Gresh can walk for band 2, he can walk for band 1 and well take Shiel cause weve got the cap room or he can stay. We shouldnt be wedded to any of those things cause ultimately they all make sense.

On what planet would we have done to Essendon pursuing Shiel.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Sam Edmund saying Dow to Stkilda is not a certainty

Cal twomey says it is. Wouldn’t believe anything sam Edmund says. Has NFI

 

[longlivelenny]

[emoji817] nailed it

Its salary dump with draft capital coming our way or no deal

Not nailed at all.

So much written about this, but it's really very simple.

Essendon offer more to gresh to trigger band one as a favor to us.

As a return favor, we pick up shiels contract for a token pick so their cap is freed up.

Why would they give up another first round pick for us taking shiel and bump up Greshams salary? Makes no sense for them.



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[snails13]

It's almost like they state things as fact without knowing for sure

Yeah exactly.
John Ralph does a column stating that Saints and Bombers planning a huge trade,with 13 going to Bombers and then Lyon states on Fox Footy the same day that those comments did not come from anybody at St.Kilda.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Someone on the dogs board linked us to Rory Lobb a few weeks ago

Have said it before but he makes sense for us. The Dogs were so dumb to get him, he doesn't fit their side at all. If we could get him for free then he can be a good stop gap. He's a dangerous player when used well, Ross would get the most out of him.

 

[phantom13]

Not nailed at all.

So much written about this, but it's really very simple.

Essendon offer more to gresh to trigger band one as a favor to us.

As a return favor, we pick up shiels contract for a token pick so their cap is freed up.

Why would they give up another first round pick for us taking shiel and bump up Greshams salary? Makes no sense for them.



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They dont. The compo pick isnt theres to give. It doesnt impact them beyond pushing their second pick back 1.

Its actually a really really simple equation.

Essendon get Gresham and $200ishk off their books.

We get Shiel, Gresh compo and take on $200sihk onto our books.

The scenario doesnt make any sense if we give up the compo. Wed be better off just taking band 2 or forcing a trade. Otherwise we are effectively paying $200k to swap Gresh for Shiel.

 

[beside the seaside]

I agree with you.

But I’m not willing to get bent over and hand them pick 13

There is no way we're giving pick 13 for him it makes literally zero sense.

 

[Miha]

Why would a sports journalists lie?

 

[hayes]

Sam Edmund saying Dow to Stkilda is not a certainty

Then I expect him to be a Saint by tomorrow.

 

[pebblesofsand]

They dont. The compo pick isnt theres to give. It doesnt impact them beyond pushing their second pick back 1.

Its actually a really really simple equation.

Essendon get Gresham and $200ishk off their books.

We get Shiel, Gresh compo and take on $200sihk onto our books.

The scenario doesnt make any sense if we give up the compo. Wed be better off just taking band 2 or forcing a trade. Otherwise we are effectively paying $200k to swap Gresh for Shiel.

I thought it was

Gresham to stay with us if they don't offer enough

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 2

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 1 and we take Shiel and his salary (since they don't want him)

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 1 and we take Shiel and they pay his salary so we give them trade picks (since they don't want him)

 

[phantom13]

I thought it was

Gresham to stay with us if they don't offer enough

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 2

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 1 and we take Shiel and his salary (since they don't want him)

or

Gresham to Essendon for Band 1 and we take Shiel and they pay his salary so we give them trade picks (since they don't want him)

Isnt that what i said? Not being a smart ass i might be missing something here.

 

[gringo2011]

Mabior Chol is probably the only one available

Could do a lot worse. The good thing about dealing with GC is that they aren't as desperate to win in every trade.

You'd also have good look at Chris Burgess too. He's primarily a forward for them but has had decent hit out stats when needed to fill in at VFL level. Topped the VFL scoring and looks like he'd walk in to a lot of sides that need a tall forward.

I wonder if Moyle can play forward as well. Pick their carcass.

 

[stavro#4]

There is no way we're giving pick 13 for him it makes literally zero sense.

I also agree. I’m just stating my position