List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Crusha]

Ah Chee?

+ Callum Ah Chee.

I didn't include him because I regarded him as a trade "steal" rather than a "picked up discard".
But on reflection, if you're let go via a trade (especially if it wasn't a "go home" trade), then I guess you have been discarded ........ point taken!!

I know Zorko was technically a trade .... but a very different one given that he never really got an opportunity to be on their list ......... (and for 4 years in a row).




Long may the "Curse of Zorko" continue ...................

 

[Sproj]

Premiership winning guru Stuart Dew

Stuart Dew

Age

46

Ht

183cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

of course as well.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Was Cal put up for trade and did he request one? What did we give up?

 

[BuntonRules]

Credit where credit is due. I can't see where our list management team could have done any better this season.

 

[Perrip]

Was Cal put up for trade and did he request one? What did we give up?

Requested one. We gave GC a 2020 Rd 2 selection & 2020 Rd 4 selection.

Ambrogio & the club lured him out of GC after Ambrogio arrived at Brisbane. Sam Edmund trade update

 

[M Malice]

Credit where credit is due. I can't see where our list management team could have done any better this season.

I'm shattered that we didn't get Sam Darcy in the door.... sack the lot of them.

 

[Grasshopper17]

West coast already setting the narrative for next years RFA.

His knee has degenerated”: Worrying health reports emerge about Eagles skipper Allen​

Mmm... I guess if there's any gaps in the resumés of our strength and conditioning gurus, it's with knees...

 

[Nunez]

Mmm... I guess if there's any gaps in the resumés of our strength and conditioning gurus, it's with knees...

I think we've actually had good success rehabilitating knees to be honest. Hipwood, Rayner & Ashcroft have all returned strongly. Doedee was unfortunate but did the bulk of rehab with the Crows. The ACLs themselves don't really point to bad conditioning - they were very unlucky and weren't all identical.

Can we do more to prevent knee injuries? Probably. Realistically, players also need to ensure they do what the medicos and sports science guys tell them to do. Nobody enjoys knee conditioning (I do it twice a week and hate it), but it's a necessary evil.

 

[Grasshopper17]

I think we've actually had good success rehabilitating knees to be honest. Hipwood, Rayner & Ashcroft have all returned strongly. Doedee was unfortunate but did the bulk of rehab with the Crows. The ACLs themselves don't really point to bad conditioning - they were very unlucky and weren't all identical.

Can we do more to prevent knee injuries? Probably. Realistically, players also need to ensure they do what the medicos and sports science guys tell them to do. Nobody enjoys knee conditioning (I do it twice a week and hate it), but it's a necessary evil.

To be honest it probably needs more work industry-wide. All the stats seem to show they occur more regularly earlier in seasons and more regularly to women. I think the "why" is gradually becoming better understood, so I guess the next step is being better at the "how" to prevent them from happening.

 

[Nunez]

Out of curiosity; what is exactly knee conditioning? Is it certain exercises / rehab?

Strength focused exercises that focus on the muscles and ligaments around the knee. I personally use a slant board and load with weighted squats and lunges along with balanced step downs and jumping. I'm sure the players have a very tailored system for this sort of thing.

 

[Nunez]

To be honest it probably needs more work industry-wide. All the stats seem to show they occur more regularly earlier in seasons and more regularly to women. I think the "why" is gradually becoming better understood, so I guess the next step is being better at the "how" to prevent them from happening.

Wouldn't surprise me if the why is making sure players adhere to their program tbh.

 

[Dalions]

West coast already setting the narrative for next years RFA.

His knee has degenerated”: Worrying health reports emerge about Eagles skipper Allen​

I thought his main concern in the last couple of years was an ankle for some reason.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I thought his main concern in the last couple of years was an ankle for some reason.

Is there any body part of his from the waste down that hasn’t degenerated?

 

[Dalions]

Is there any body part of his from the was down that hasn’t degenerated?

 

[buttermuffs]

I think we've actually had good success rehabilitating knees to be honest. Hipwood, Rayner & Ashcroft have all returned strongly. Doedee was unfortunate but did the bulk of rehab with the Crows. The ACLs themselves don't really point to bad conditioning - they were very unlucky and weren't all identical.

Can we do more to prevent knee injuries? Probably. Realistically, players also need to ensure they do what the medicos and sports science guys tell them to do. Nobody enjoys knee conditioning (I do it twice a week and hate it), but it's a necessary evil.

I hurt my knee bad when I was like 11 and never really did the physio work when I was young. Still is a lot weaker over a decade later.


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[buttermuffs]

I thought his main concern in the last couple of years was an ankle for some reason.

The legs and their muscles can cause problems further up or down itself because of other injuries. So his knee could cause other problems if it’s never really fully fixed.

Just mentioned here how one of my knees is weaker than the other. You’ll never guess which foot I develop plantar fasciitis and achilles tendonopathy on.

 

[Nunez]

I hurt my knee bad when I was like 11 and never really did the physio work when I was young. Still is a lot weaker over a decade later.


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Highly recommend a slant board. You can absolutely strengthen knees as you get older. Maybe not when you're as old as old man Elixuh but most of us have hope!

 

[Nathan Barley]

Does the recruitment of Day indicate that we’re gearing up for a big name KPF next year and/or that we’re confident we can land one?

 

[Nunez]

Does the recruitment of Day indicate that we’re gearing up for a big name KPF next year and/or that we’re confident we can land one?

 

[Elixuh]

Does the recruitment of Day indicate that we’re gearing up for a big name KPF next year and/or that we’re confident we can land one?

It indicates we had no draft capital to pry someone out and there were no attractive FAs available. We may have to do the same thing next year but I'd expect our entire list focus for the next 12 months is going to be centered around a Joe replacement and potentially a new ruck.

I actually think we would already have Fogarty on our list had his form not taken off overnight in 2023. Adelaide has put a lot of work into him to I think convince him to stay - especially around leadership roles etc.

 

[Section 5]

Does the recruitment of Day indicate that we’re gearing up for a big name KPF next year and/or that we’re confident we can land one?

All clubs would always be on the lookout for good/very good players to complement their list.
We probably have a few on our radar but that is a long way off. Let's see how 2025 turns out with who we have.

Day comes to a different club environment, and it will be interesting to see how that unfolds.
I think going with just Hippy and Morris we would struggle.
So, one of Day, Smith, Gardiner. I am not keen on Ryan. Lloyd i would want to see where he plays in the VFL.
If we get 5 on the bench i would go Smith as ruck/forward relief and one of Day/Gardiner
Doedee may even get a go at playing forward

Gallop who would know, he has 12 months to show what he can produce.

 

[M Malice]

Highly recommend a slant board. You can absolutely strengthen knees as you get older. Maybe not when you're as old as old man Elixuh but most of us have hope!

Definitely, IMO balancing exercises are the best for knees and ankles, wobble/balance boards are good(not the same as slant boards but somewhat similar), I have posted about him before in The Den but I like the knees over toes guy, short sample of him >

 

[Grasshopper17]

All clubs would always be on the lookout for good/very good players to complement their list.
We probably have a few on our radar but that is a long way off. Let's see how 2025 turns out with who we have.

Day comes to a different club environment, and it will be interesting to see how that unfolds.
I think going with just Hippy and Morris we would struggle.
So, one of Day, Smith, Gardiner. I am not keen on Ryan. Lloyd i would want to see where he plays in the VFL.
If we get 5 on the bench i would go Smith as ruck/forward relief and one of Day/Gardiner
Doedee may even get a go at playing forward

Gallop who would know, he has 12 months to show what he can produce.

I think it's been confirmed the interchange arrangements will be the same next year as they've been for the last couple.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

Is there any body part of his from the waste down that hasn’t degenerated?

Ask his wife hehehe.

 

[Crusha]

Sam Day - AFL & VFL 2024.