List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Sproj]

If we don’t win a final do we still hang onto Lester and Zorko?

Yes for sure. Even if others go past them, which you would hope does happen, they are still really good depth and for competition for spots.

The question mark really needs to be, can we fix Bailey's issues or do we use him as trade bait?

 

[Big Sauce 21]

If we don’t win a final do we still hang onto Lester and Zorko?

Yeah, let go of a defender when we have 3 coming off an ACL and one with a dud foot.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yeah, let go of a defender when we have 3 coming off an ACL and one with a dud foot.

Surely 1 of Dizzy or Doedee will find form

Lester isn't taking Paynes spot

He'll just be a 32 year old bloody average backman

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Surely 1 of Dizzy or Doedee will find form

Lester isn't taking Paynes spot

He'll just be a 32 year old bloody average backman

Yeah mid year

 

[Sproj]

Surely 1 of Dizzy or Doedee will find form

Lester isn't taking Paynes spot

He'll just be a 32 year old bloody average backman

Payne, as good as he is, tends to get injured at important times of the year unfortunately.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yeah mid year

Can’t afford a list spot just so Lester can fill a hole for a month or two

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Can’t afford a list spot just so Lester can fill a hole for a month or two

Yeah, Gardiner will save the day

 

[golions]

If we don’t win a final do we still hang onto Lester and Zorko?

probably not if Doedee and Coleman are good to go I suspect

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yeah, Gardiner will save the day

Can’t see him playing worse than Lester. Don’t have to go back too far to him shutting down Curnow. Lester isn’t even good enough to play on him

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Can’t see him playing worse than Lester. Don’t have to go back too far to him shutting down Curnow. Lester isn’t even good enough to play on him

Rated that highly that they had him running around in the forward line earlier in the year.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Rated that highly that they had him running around in the forward line earlier in the year.

That was when Doedee was coming into the third defender role early in the season, Andrews and Payne were fit and we wanted to develop a swingman

Got anything better?

 

[Big Sauce 21]

That was when Doedee was coming into the third defender role early in the season and we wanted to develop a swingman

Got anything better?

Yeah, delist a player that is consistently fit over a player that can't string more than 10 games a year.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yeah, delist a player that is consistently fit over a player that can't string more than 10 games a year.

If we could delist Doedee that would be an option as well

 

[Bucking Beads]

If we could delist Doedee that would be an option as well

Tend to agree. Unfortunately for Tom it seems unlikely that his body will let him be a footballer

 

[briztoon]

Should of gone full tank mode this year.

 

[Perrip]

Did we really give this guy 5 years?

4 years. He's contracted until 2027

 

[Perrip]

Tbh, I won't be too fussed if we make finals and that's it. I've said this since we had a poor start to the season.

Coming off a GF loss, multiple season ending best-22 injuries + best-22 injuries throughout the year that came at poor times. If anything we've seen the depth we have in our current squad means we have the depth to cover injuries + future players in our best-22.

 

[Scubaveg]

Yes for sure. Even if others go past them, which you would hope does happen, they are still really good depth and for competition for spots.

The question mark really needs to be, can we fix Bailey's issues or do we use him as trade bait?

Bailey should go. Has not improved at all in years. The guys a lair.


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[Gadzorks]

Time to start gearing towards a rebuild

Let's start with .... some ashcrofts. Add in a motty, a Morris and a Fletcher.

Oh, wait ....

 

[Perrip]

I don’t get the justification for being ok with our season because of our own self inflicted start to the season

It isn't a justification, it's the reality. At our best, we're a top 8 team regularly, at our worst, we should still be playing finals or just missing the 8. Would it be better to see us make the GF again? 100%. But it's extremely unlikely to happen when have a poor start to the season with multiple injuries to players in our best 22

 

[Perrip]

Would you be saying that if we won the past two weeks with the same injuries to players in our best 22. I doubt it.

Yep, I would be. It's a thought I've held since the start of the season.

I do agree with you though, it's no one else's fault but the teams piss poor start to the season - for multiple reasons - that have allowed us to drop a top 4 finish last week and this week.

If we can get going into finals, with recovered injuries [Payne/Bruce] then we should be able to damage to Premiership teams.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Payne, as good as he is, tends to get injured at important times of the year unfortunately.

This is a bit of a left field idea, and I don't expect most people to agree. If the following are all true:

1. We can't count on Payne to stay fit
2. Finding another good mature KPD is difficult
3. Our biggest hindrance right now is poor goalkicking

Then, could we be better off sending Hipwood to defence full-time and signing a player who is a very accurate kick for goal? I'm aware Gardiner will return and be able to cover for Payne, but I don't know if he's a premiership quality KPD, especially coming back from an ACL. And we really, really need someone who won't miss easy goals from 20m out, directly in front. It's killing us.

As to who is a very accurate kick, there have already been whispers that we're into Darcy Fogarty (OOC 2025), who has kicked 41.16 this year. A cheaper option would be Tim Membrey (UFA 2024), who has kicked 28.9 this season. Or if we're willing to take a flier on someone in the VFL (should the list spots be available), Liam McMahon from Carlton's VFL team is 198cm, 22 years old and has kicked 43.13 this season (including 7.0 against Geelong last week).

For comparison, Joe has kicked 49.42, Charlie 34.25, Hipwood 29.19, Rayner 25.17 and Kai 24.23 so far this year.

 

[Nathan Barley]

This is a bit of a left field idea, and I don't expect most people to agree. If the following are all true:

1. We can't count on Payne to stay fit
2. Finding another good mature KPD is difficult
3. Our biggest hindrance right now is poor goalkicking

Then, could we be better off sending Hipwood to defence full-time and signing a player who is a very accurate kick for goal? I'm aware Gardiner will return and be able to cover for Payne, but I don't know if he's a premiership quality KPD, especially coming back from an ACL. And we really, really need someone who won't miss easy goals from 20m out, directly in front. It's killing us.

As to who is a very accurate kick, there have already been whispers that we're into Darcy Fogarty (OOC 2025), who has kicked 41.16 this year. A cheaper option would be Tim Membrey (UFA 2024), who has kicked 28.9 this season. Or if we're willing to take a flier on someone in the VFL (should the list spots be available), Liam McMahon from Carlton's VFL team is 198cm, 22 years old and has kicked 43.13 this season (including 7.0 against Geelong last week).

For comparison, Joe has kicked 49.42, Charlie 34.25, Hipwood 29.19, Rayner 25.17 and Kai 24.23 so far this year.

I think that idea can stay in left field

 

[lionsrules]

 

[irish]

Yep he will do just fine