List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[StevoJenkins]

If Petracca is gettable, what would a deal cost? I assume two first round picks plus change at least. Or a first round, a future first round, and a player. Its hard to see how it could be achievable, but is worth pursuing if he has any interest in Brisbane. It appears he genuinely wants out, but is contracted to 2029. I guess there will be a need to offload some current players for currency for a deal like this.

Having in mind that draft picks will be need for Levi and Sam Marshall.

Currently Brisbane only have picks 14, 52 and 68, for a total of 1466 points. The annual merry-go-round of pick swaps will greatly improve the total points, but lots more are needed.

If they decide to trade Bailey, what is he worth? I think he would be seen as great get by other clubs, but he gives me the impression that he has reached his potential at Brisbane. Great in flashes, but no significant growth over the last couple of years.
What is Prior and Dev worth if they are traded to the west?
What is Connor McKenna, Madden, and Answerth worth?
Is Jarryd Lyons worth anything? North are looking at Viney and Wines at the moment, so if they want mature player/mentors, Jarryd could fit a need.

Fine balance between a focus on the premiership window, which could be open for only a couple of more years, and starting a mini rebuild.

Early wish list is:-

Ins - Petracca (you have to wish even if there is the slimmest of chances), Levi, Marshall, Tom Gillet, Ryan Gilder, Ty Gallop, Grainger-Barras (Hawthorn), Sampson Ryan (Richmond), and Bailey Scott (North). The last two being Queenslanders so they might be able to be lured back, but at what trade price. And lastly a small speedy forward.

Outs - Robertson, Prior, Michael, Lyons, McKenna, Madden, Answerth, Kalin Lane, Craven and Joyce.

So let's us cut all depth and go for all young, unproven kids and some contracted players that don't meet a need?

Not every draftee is an Ashcroft, Fletcher or Morris, there will be players who don't play in their first season. Then with the contracted players, Petracca is not required for what it would cost to bring him across, Samson literally re-signed a month ago, Grainger-Barras I had to Google (never heard of this guy) and what does Bailey Scott bring to the table that McCarthy, Lohman, Bailey, Zorko, Kiddy, Ah Chee, Rayner or Sharp wouldn't bring to that role?

Robertson, Prior, McKenna, Answorth and Joyce will most likely be on our list next year (unless trades are specifically requested - which would only be Dev at this stage). Lane will probably be kept as well if no other rucks are available.

Lyons will be a delist when his contract is up. Nobody will be trading for a 32-year-old whose time is up. North doesn't need him, and he isn't a Viney mentor type.

I also don't expect more than Levi and Marshall to come to us in the draft, the rest is what is available and what is required. Only thing we are lacking is another viable tall forward (who is not Ryan) and a decent lockdown defender with pace, even then, we don't need a list overhaul, just need to kick straight. A goal kicking coach and a good sports psychologist could fix that problem.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Once again we need speed and small defenders plus some more depth in key positions.

 

[p4p1]

Mine.

Doedee, Andrews, Starcevich.
Wilmot, Payne, Coleman.
Fletcher, Neale, McCluggage.
Lohmann, Hipwood, McCarthy.
Cameron, Daniher, Morris.
McInerney, Dunkley, Berry.

W.Ashcroft, Bailey, Zorko, Rayner, Reville.

Pushing for a spot- L.Ashcroft, Brain, Gardiner, Ah Chee, Sharp, Beecken, McLachlan, Answerth.

I would make a spot for Petracca when he is traded in.

I'm expecting 5 on the bench from 2025, no subs.

I would be shocked if Levi is not in our team from round 1.
Who is making way for him in your mind?

 

[M Malice]

I would be shocked if Levi is not in our team from round 1.
Who is making way for him in your mind?

From my team any of Reville, Bailey, Fletcher, McCarthy(ACL) depending on form at the time, hopefully Linc gets back to his best quickly, IMO he is a fantastic player and lock in the team when at his best.

 

[esbulldogs]

There was a bounce on the weekend where our mids were Neale, Clugg and Bailey. 100% Need to have on of either Bez or Dunkley in every CB IMO.

Think you will find last 7/8 minutes last week Dunkley was on bench, and only came back on after oppo hit front, that’s very very poor coaching, you don’t have your only defensive mid on bench when game is to be won. Managing rotations is moot in these circumstances and it’s not the first time this year.


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[briztoon]

If Petracca is gettable, what would a deal cost? I assume two first round picks plus change at least. Or a first round, a future first round, and a player. Its hard to see how it could be achievable, but is worth pursuing if he has any interest in Brisbane. It appears he genuinely wants out, but is contracted to 2029. I guess there will be a need to offload some current players for currency for a deal like this.

Having in mind that draft picks will be need for Levi and Sam Marshall.

Currently Brisbane only have picks 14, 52 and 68, for a total of 1466 points. The annual merry-go-round of pick swaps will greatly improve the total points, but lots more are needed.

If they decide to trade Bailey, what is he worth? I think he would be seen as great get by other clubs, but he gives me the impression that he has reached his potential at Brisbane. Great in flashes, but no significant growth over the last couple of years.

What is Prior and Dev worth if they are traded to the west?

A 4th round pick swap at best. Prior is out of contract and a potential delisted candidate.

Dev can’t crack our best team, even with injuries.

What is Connor McKenna, Madden, and Answerth worth?

McKenna might be worth a late second round pick.

Madden a delisting candidate.

Answerth maybe a late third round pick.

Is Jarryd Lyons worth anything?

Not in the current trade market.

North are looking at Viney and Wines at the moment, so if they want mature player/mentors, Jarryd could fit a need.

Fine balance between a focus on the premiership window, which could be open for only a couple of more years, and starting a mini rebuild.

Early wish list is:-

Ins - Petracca (you have to wish even if there is the slimmest of chances), Levi, Marshall, Tom Gillet, Ryan Gilder, Ty Gallop, Grainger-Barras (Hawthorn), Sampson Ryan (Richmond), and Bailey Scott (North). The last two being Queenslanders so they might be able to be lured back, but at what trade price. And lastly a small speedy forward.

Outs - Robertson, Prior, Michael, Lyons, McKenna, Madden, Answerth, Kalin Lane, Craven and Joyce.

 

[Sproj]

Based on the known knowns (so not including any trades or other draftees other than LAshcroft and Marshall), I would think at full strength, we'd be looking at something like:

Backs:
Wilmott, Andrews, Doedee (Lester)
Starcevich, Payne, Coleman

Mids:
Dunkley, McInerney, Berry
Neale, McCluggage, WAshcroft

Forwards:
Rayner, Hipwood, LAshcroft
Lohmann, Daniher, Cameron

Bench:
Fletcher/Marshall, Zorko, Ah Chee/McCarthy, Reville/Sharp, Morris

Emergencies:
Brain, Gardiner, Sharp/Reville

Reserves:
Smith, Answerth, McKenna

Something like that.

 

[beatnik]

Nice work…mine is largely the same…

Backs:
Starcevich, Payne, Andrews
Wilmott, Doedee, Coleman

Mids:
McLuggage, Neale, Berry

Onball:
Oscar, Dunkley, WAshcroft

Forwards:
Rayner, Hipwood, Ah Chee
Lohmann, Daniher, Cameron

Bench:
Fletcher, Zorko, Morris, LAshcroft

Emergencies:

McCarthy, Brain, Gardiner, Reville, Lester

Reserves:
Smith, Answerth, McKenna, Joyce, Sharp, Marshall, Prior

 

[Royboy1961]

So let's us cut all depth and go for all young, unproven kids and some contracted players that don't meet a need?

Not every draftee is an Ashcroft, Fletcher or Morris, there will be players who don't play in their first season. Then with the contracted players, Petracca is not required for what it would cost to bring him across, Samson literally re-signed a month ago, Grainger-Barras I had to Google (never heard of this guy) and what does Bailey Scott bring to the table that McCarthy, Lohman, Bailey, Zorko, Kiddy, Ah Chee, Rayner or Sharp wouldn't bring to that role?

Robertson, Prior, McKenna, Answorth and Joyce will most likely be on our list next year (unless trades are specifically requested - which would only be Dev at this stage). Lane will probably be kept as well if no other rucks are available.

Lyons will be a delist when his contract is up. Nobody will be trading for a 32-year-old whose time is up. North doesn't need him, and he isn't a Viney mentor type.

I also don't expect more than Levi and Marshall to come to us in the draft, the rest is what is available and what is required. Only thing we are lacking is another viable tall forward (who is not Ryan) and a decent lockdown defender with pace, even then, we don't need a list overhaul, just need to kick straight. A goal kicking coach and a good sports psychologist could fix that problem.

You are spot on with your list analysis we are third on the VFL ladder even with all our long term injuries and the rookie picks are projectng well especially Beecken. Other than Ashcroft and Marshall I would be trying Gillett as a project player. We will be full to the brim next year if our list stays healthy and should be playing finals again and hopefully a premiership.

 

[Perrip]

Wondering when we'll get retirement announcements. Usually it is around now for our players off memory.

 

[irel]

Wondering when we'll get retirement announcements. Usually it is around now for our players off memory.

Who are you expecting to announce their retirement?
All our over thirties have indicated their desire to continue.

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[Nathan Barley]

Who are you expecting to announce their retirement?
All our over thirties have indicated their desire to continue.

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Lyons is probably the only possibility

 

[Perrip]

Lyons is probably the only possibility

Yeah, that's who I was referring to. Can't see him getting back into the side for the remaining 2+ games we're playing. He may ask for a trade but I can't see which bottom team would pick him up.

 

[Perrip]

Inside Trading: Brisbane veteran Dayne Zorko

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Dayne Zorko

Age

36

Ht

175cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

6.0

5star

MG

440.5

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

5.0

5star

MG

291.0

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

6.6

5star

has secured a new deal to play on for a 14th season in 2025.

Zorko Winds Back The Clock To Earn Another Contract

 

[golions]

If Petracca is gettable, what would a deal cost? I assume two first round picks plus change at least. Or a first round, a future first round, and a player. Its hard to see how it could be achievable, but is worth pursuing if he has any interest in Brisbane. It appears he genuinely wants out, but is contracted to 2029. I guess there will be a need to offload some current players for currency for a deal like this.

Having in mind that draft picks will be need for Levi and Sam Marshall.

Currently Brisbane only have picks 14, 52 and 68, for a total of 1466 points. The annual merry-go-round of pick swaps will greatly improve the total points, but lots more are needed.

If they decide to trade Bailey, what is he worth? I think he would be seen as great get by other clubs, but he gives me the impression that he has reached his potential at Brisbane. Great in flashes, but no significant growth over the last couple of years.
What is Prior and Dev worth if they are traded to the west?
What is Connor McKenna, Madden, and Answerth worth?
Is Jarryd Lyons worth anything? North are looking at Viney and Wines at the moment, so if they want mature player/mentors, Jarryd could fit a need.

Fine balance between a focus on the premiership window, which could be open for only a couple of more years, and starting a mini rebuild.

Early wish list is:-

Ins - Petracca (you have to wish even if there is the slimmest of chances), Levi, Marshall, Tom Gillet, Ryan Gilder, Ty Gallop, Grainger-Barras (Hawthorn), Sampson Ryan (Richmond), and Bailey Scott (North). The last two being Queenslanders so they might be able to be lured back, but at what trade price. And lastly a small speedy forward.

Outs - Robertson, Prior, Michael, Lyons, McKenna, Madden, Answerth, Kalin Lane, Craven and Joyce.

Rayner and Bailey for Petracca?

There’s no guarantee that Petracca will be back to his best after an injury loke that and the aftermath.

Dusty was never the same player after his kidney injury.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Inside Trading: Brisbane veteran Dayne Zorko has secured a new deal to play on for a 14th season in 2025.

Supersub

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Rayner and Bailey for Petracca?

There’s no guarantee that Petracca will be back to his best after an injury loke that and the aftermath.

Dusty was never the same player after his kidney injury.

Melbourne would scoff at that offer, though the deal would be amazing just to see danster's head explode at Rayner going to his club.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Just looking a little ahead here, Joe is off contract at the end of 2025. He'd turn 32 at the start of the 2026 season. How many more years can we get out of him as the #1 key forward?

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Supersub

 

[Perrip]

Wilmot named in the 22under22 team. No Cobra Kai.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Wilmot named in the 22under22 team. No Cobra Kai.

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Probably could've had Racheles spot given he's about to be dropped from a bottom 4 team

 

[Dalions]

Just looking a little ahead here, Joe is off contract at the end of 2025. He'd turn 32 at the start of the 2026 season. How many more years can we get out of him as the #1 key forward?

He doesn’t appear to be slowing down yet.
He’s had over 90 shots at goal this year.
If only he could convert a few more.

 

[Tom14]

Probably could've had Racheles spot given he's about to be dropped from a bottom 4 team

Rachele's had a really good last 5 weeks too, averaged 2 goals a game. Bizarre stuff out of the Crows this week.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

He doesn’t appear to be slowing down yet.
He’s had over 90 shots at goal this year.
If only he could convert a few more.

Fair enough. I suppose Buddy, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Kennedy and Tomahawk all kept chugging along until their mid 30s.

 

[T Rick]

He doesn’t appear to be slowing down yet.
He’s had over 90 shots at goal this year.
If only he could convert a few more.

Joe’s resilience with us has been remarkable, particularly given that he came to us as a high risk croc after years of serious groin injuries… it could have easily turned bad as a list management decision.