List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[p4p1]

Pretty sure Ginnivan wanted to leave because he could see Schultz was going to take his position.

Oooffff that hasn’t worked out for the Pies either then.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Oooffff that hasn’t worked out for the Pies either then.

Correct.

Don't. Trade. With. Hawthorn.

 

[martinson]

Correct.

Don't. Trade. With. Hawthorn.

Mitch is a very smart operator.

They gave us Hodge for nix which was actually the spark that set us on our way.

They managed to get us back for that ever since.

 

[Sproj]

Surely we could entice Oscar Allen

4

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

to come to a good team.

 

[p4p1]

Surely we could entice Oscar Allen to come to a good team.

Would be an incredible pickup in the future. Though I’m really high on Mac Andrew.

 

[golions]

Most just wanted to get more gametime and be in a better environment to thrive
D'Ambrosio: Wanted more game-time than Dons could give (8 games in '22 and '23 seasons)
Chol: Club suggests he look elsewhere for more opportunities (8 games in '23 seasons)
Ginni: Wanted a better culture than what Pies offered
Gunna: Didn't like the game style Brisbane played

We just shouldn't trade with Hawthorn at all at the moment. Every player to go to Hawthorn this year from another club has gone from being an ordinary player to a good player or better. While every player to leave Hawthorn has gone from a decent/good player to a bloody ordinary one.

Sam Mitchell is already the Craig Bellamy of the AFL.

Can add Sam Mitchell working with Nick Watson one on one to help him with his goal kicking.

Just goes to show the value of a great coach - both in terms of getting the best out of players individually but getting them to play their roles in the overall match day strategy.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Less than Cooper.

Other than the name I think by the end of his career Joe will be seen more as a Lion than a Bomber, and I'm reasonably comfortable that he'll stay up north out of the spotlight - he seems very comfortable in himself these days.

The big issue might be the Swans academy...

Joe sure is a strange cat, lives down Byron Bay way and drive the 2 hours to training. He is so secretive, well maybe reclusive, he is never going back to a city and sure is not going back to Melbourne. Remember he came up here the covid year and when the season was over went camping out western Qld somewhere. when the deal was done with the Lions he apparently didn't even go back to Melbourne someone had to pack his flat up for him. He missed that final with the birth of his first child, cant remember which player said it but they joked most of his team mates didn't even know he had a girlfriend he is that private. You never see him in any social media stuff from the boys end of season, he just goes back to his farm. If he has a son, it's a very big IF I'd suggest they even play football and if they did it would likely be in the Suns academy so hopefully he does qualify for Father/Son for us.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Joe sure is a strange cat, lives down Byron Bay way and drive the 2 hours to training. He is so secretive, well maybe reclusive, he is never going back to a city and sure is not going back to Melbourne. Remember he came up here the covid year and when the season was over went camping out western Qld somewhere. when the deal was done with the Lions he apparently didn't even go back to Melbourne someone had to pack his flat up for him. He missed that final with the birth of his first child, cant remember which player said it but they joked most of his team mates didn't even know he had a girlfriend he is that private. You never see him in any social media stuff from the boys end of season, he just goes back to his farm. If he has a son, it's a very big IF I'd suggest they even play football and if they did it would likely be in the Suns academy so hopefully he does qualify for Father/Son for us.

I think he has somewhere to stay in Brisbane if he doesn't want to drive back.

 

[Clarkythelion]

I think he has somewhere to stay in Brisbane if he doesn't want to drive back.

yep your correct, they have a unit he can use.

 

[ballknowledgeexpert]

whats the latest on tunstill? is he off to the west or will he stay? think he's a quality player would love to see him get regular first team footy

 

[M Malice]

whats the latest on tunstill? is he off to the west or will he stay? think he's a quality player would love to see him get regular first team footy

We have a stacked midfield with 3 highly rated mids coming in over the next 2 drafts ie. L.Ashcroft, Marshall and Annable so he is highly unlikely to crack a senior mid position with us.

Out of Contract end of next year, if he expressed the desire to move on the Lions would facilitate it IMO. He would be worth very little in trade value.. 50+ selection.

 

[Sproj]

We have a stacked midfield with 3 highly rated mids coming in over the next 2 drafts ie. L.Ashcroft, Marshall and Annable so he is highly unlikely to crack a senior mid position with us.

Out of Contract end of next year, if he expressed the desire to move on the Lions would facilitate it IMO. He would be worth very little in trade value.. 50+ selection.

All the points we can get help though.

 

[Dalions]

All the points we can get help though.

And list spots.

 

[Sproj]

So I'm assuming Dev will go back to WA, Tunstill might as well.

 

[T Rick]

So I'm assuming Dev will go back to WA, Tunstill might as well.

I really like Dev but the planets have just not aligned for him at the Lions. His wrist injury impacting the beginning of this season could not have come at a worse time for him.

 

[Gadzorks]

This is a bit of a left field idea, and I don't expect most people to agree. If the following are all true:

1. We can't count on Payne to stay fit
2. Finding another good mature KPD is difficult
3. Our biggest hindrance right now is poor goalkicking

Then, could we be better off sending Hipwood to defence full-time and signing a player who is a very accurate kick for goal? I'm aware Gardiner will return and be able to cover for Payne, but I don't know if he's a premiership quality KPD, especially coming back from an ACL. And we really, really need someone who won't miss easy goals from 20m out, directly in front. It's killing us.

As to who is a very accurate kick, there have already been whispers that we're into Darcy Fogarty (OOC 2025), who has kicked 41.16 this year. A cheaper option would be Tim Membrey (UFA 2024), who has kicked 28.9 this season. Or if we're willing to take a flier on someone in the VFL (should the list spots be available), Liam McMahon from Carlton's VFL team is 198cm, 22 years old and has kicked 43.13 this season (including 7.0 against Geelong last week).

For comparison, Joe has kicked 49.42, Charlie 34.25, Hipwood 29.19, Rayner 25.17 and Kai 24.23 so far this year.

This ... And we really, really need someone who won't miss easy goals from 20m out, directly in front. It's killing us.

The loss of McCarthy is is killing us. Always confident that he could nail the easy ones.

 

[Nathan Barley]

whats the latest on tunstill? is he off to the west or will he stay? think he's a quality player would love to see him get regular first team footy

Please take him

 

[Nathan Barley]

This ... And we really, really need someone who won't miss easy goals from 20m out, directly in front. It's killing us.

The loss of McCarthy is is killing us. Always confident that he could nail the easy ones.

Hipwood has been pretty good with the easy ones this year IIRC. Better than Joe, Charlie and Rayner I think

 

[Gadzorks]

All the points we can get help though.

Forgot which thread I was on. Thought you were appreciating all the behind points helping us win games

 

[Sproj]

Forgot which thread I was on. Thought you were appreciating all the behind points helping us win games

You can only admire our commitment to behinds and keeping the opposition in it.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Always been keen on John Noble

2

John Noble

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

. Good get by the Suns

 

[Pacman82]

Petracca possibly to request a trade to Carlton, Collingwood or Brisbane someone 'close to him' reported on SEN this morning..

 

[M Malice]

Petracca possibly to request a trade to Carlton, Collingwood or Brisbane someone 'close to him' reported on SEN this morning..

It has to be Kane Cornes or Tom Morris surely.

 

[p4p1]

Petracca possibly to request a trade to Carlton, Collingwood or Brisbane someone 'close to him' reported on SEN this morning..

I would hate to see him at either Collingwood or Carlton. But I don't see how we could get him here.

 

[StevoJenkins]

Always been keen on John Noble. Good get by the Suns

Depends on if he gets there. If it doesn’t work out, wouldn’t mind him coming to us.

I’m a bit confused on the reason though, he’s from SA and is moving up here for family. Does Nobes and his family still live in QLD?

Petracca possibly to request a trade to Carlton, Collingwood or Brisbane someone 'close to him' reported on SEN this morning..

Will not happen if it’s us, even if it was legit, we simply do not have the capital. Only player he’d replace is Bailey or Rayner - neither of which I’ve give up for a guy who has 4 years max left in the game.