List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[M Malice]

Brisbane Lions List Changes

The Brisbane Lions confirm duo Kalin Lane and Carter Michael will not be offered contracts for 2025

www.lions.com.au

Madden returning to Ireland, Lane and Michael delisted

Sad for Carter Michael never got a decent crack due to injury.

I am also sure that the club will continue to support Kalin Lane through his ACL rehabilitation.

 

[Nathan Barley]

We can get points for Prior delisting him would be silly

You missed an 'IF' in this sentence

 

[blueiris]

Yeah you'd assume we either see some value or there's a chance he stays

More surprised about Craven and to a lesser extent Beecken not being mentioned

Both are worth consideration for our senior list especially Beecken

 

[MSB ROYS]

Michael I’m probably disappointed in the most best of luck to Madden great pace but we have depth in that position

Michael needs to get his body right and play well in the VFL or SANFL. Has the talent to be on an AFL list.

 

[M Malice]

Are we now short a ruck on our list?

With Kalin Lane being delisted are we likely to take Tom Gillet in the draft?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Are we now short a ruck on our list?

With Kalin Lane being delisted are we likely to take Tom Gillet in the draft?

Wouldn't surprise me if we found a forward/ruck somewhere

 

[Fagenslions36]

Play Rayner “Pumba “ as permanent full forward you watch him go Leigh Matthews style next year . With addition of Levi he moves into Rayners midfield minutes Rayner kicks 50 plus for year .

 

[M Malice]

A couple of clubs have had two rounds of delistees so they aren’t safe yet.

As for Madden; no doubt saw the writing on the wall and sounds like started making plans back in Ireland hence his decision, which I’d have thought he’d have been delisted anyway. Win win for both parties.

Madden had electric pace... all time fastest 20 meter sprint at any AFL draft combine, unfortunately he was one of those guys who couldn't put it into consistent practice on game day.

 

[scoman]

Re leading goal kickers from the VFL season all I can find is that Billy Gowers kicked 50 goals as the leader, can not find a complete list. Would be good to have a look at say the top 5 leading goal kickers from all the State Leagues.

#hammelmann

I'm on my phone so it's a pain in the arse to search for shite.

Hammelmann with 70 Goals in the QAFL. Not sure how many games. I think that ship has sailed though, from what has been relayed to me (no direct link) he lost interest in playing in the AFL years ago.

 

[M Malice]

Hammelmann with 70 Goals in the QAFL. Not sure how many games. I think that ship has sailed though, from what has been relayed to me (no direct link) he lost interest in playing in the AFL years ago.

That's low for Hammer, he missed a around 4-6 games due to injury late in the season.

Yer well known that he lost the passion for elite level footy. Maybe a chance at an AFL flag could sway him to have a 1 season red hot crack at pre season training.

 

[mpal6]

Do you really believe this will happen?

Love a good melt. Hope it happens.

 

[Clarkythelion]

E = mc2 and a projectile vomit - the best speech I ever saw delivered.

I was a young marketing manager at a sales conference in a well known resort at Tweed Heads. The first session on the second morning was a speaker from the sales force. They asked him to speak as he had just won salesman of the year in his first year and they wanted him to tell what it was like to come from an outside competitive industry into a telecommunications giant with 95% market share.

Let's call him Brains as was his nickname, he gave this speech for 20 minutes, dry reaching most of the way, he held the audience breathless with his version of E=mc2 and the fact he might vomit right there on the lectern. His view of E=mc2 was that if he didn't improve his knowledge every day and keep educating himself then the new competitors into the industry would be doing that and would simply pass him by. He had come from selling rugby League calendars for pub walls and only if he sold 100 would they actually be printed. The audience, all long term non-competitive sales people facing competition for the first time got the message, they were stunned and applauded at the end with this concept of continual improvement every year, even if you were number 1.

Brains finished his speech, during the applause he sprinted from the lecturn out the main doors and vomited in the resort swimming pool in front of everyone. The point was well made though, if you keep doing what you always do sooner rather than later someone will do it better. Everyone now knows the Lions style, call us Telstra, Hawthorn have a style, a young team delivering that style and now have the couple of cogs they were missing - let's call the Optus or Vodaphone - they are coming, we must change and improve, not be same same.

Stuart Dew

Stuart Dew

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46

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183cm

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99kg

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13.1

3star

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9.1

4star

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4.0

3star

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2.9

3star

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1.7

4star

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12.2

3star

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9.0

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3.2

3star

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2.8

3star

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1.8

4star

is a great addition, Fagan has been in a multiple premiership environment. We are well set to face Brain's concept of E =mc2, I expect them to delivering something different.

PS; Brian came to live with my wife and I, he was going to stay a fortnight wile moving apartments and 2 years later he left. He won the best sale award both the next 2 years also. He lived hard and played harder and I saw him vomit many times in our front yard and pulled him from a few bar fights. I heard a few years later he won the lotto, left sales forever and moved overseas.

Get your money on the Lions again this year, we will be fine and Joe leaving just pumps up the odds.

 

[Tom14]

I’m still all aboard the Smith train. It took Kai like 5-6 games to kick his first ever goal and he is looking great now with the time and faith put into him.

Smith is a very promising ruck who towelled up Marshall in the second half against the Saints this year with five clearances in the half. The best part is that Oscar is very talented up forward and is pretty good at the intercept mark down back. We could even do what Geelong did on 2022, where Stanley took the centre bounce, dropped back in defence as a spare and he and Blicavs rucked one half of the ground each.

Oscar is 30 and we have a genuine opportunity to blood a high potential young ruck with a forward line that can kick a lot of goals. I don’t want a Casboult or Lynch where they’ll just retire at the same time as many others on our list.

I agree with everything you've said, but I'm still keen on a Casboult, Sam Day type as backup - we need another option to cover injuries. They'll cost nothing contract wise so who cares if they retire in a year.

 

[Tom14]

Good summary by foxfooty of the FA compo issue:

The clear loophole in AFL’s free agency compo — and how two clubs exploited it

The clear loophole in AFL’s free agency compo — and how two clubs exploited it

www.foxsports.com.au

There are some 800 players in the AFL, so the top five per cent of that is the top 40 players in the league - nobody would put them in that category, but keep in mind that Battle and Perryman are only being measured against fellow players aged 25 or older, not the entire pool.


It still seems a bit strange though, doesn’t it? Well, there’s a clear flaw when you have a year like this one with a $2 million jump in the salary cap.

Battle and Perryman are signing contracts based on the 2025 cap, which went up by 12.6% compared to the 2024 cap, but they’re being measured against deals under the 2024 cap.

 

[Saucery]

Play Rayner “Pumba “ as permanent full forward you watch him go Leigh Matthews style next year . With addition of Levi he moves into Rayners midfield minutes Rayner kicks 50 plus for year .

Don't mind this idea except if the ball isn't going down there for a while we will be short one of our fire starters. Levi is a talent no doubt, but Rayner is a bull in a china shop when the chips are down, in a good way!

 

[mpal6]

Are we now short a ruck on our list?

With Kalin Lane being delisted are we likely to take Tom Gillet in the draft?

Might take Gillett. who knows.

 

[dlanod]

Surprised Prior isn't in there too. If we don't delist him before the trade period, I guess we'll try to trade with Essendon for picks.

We can get points for Prior delisting him would be silly

Could well have a contract in front of him as very useful depth too. Double duty - if he signs we keep cheap depth, if he goes for a better offer elsewhere we get a pick for matching.

 

[FromOldFitzroy]

Henry Smith’s stats in the VFL -

 

[Cockliff38]

Back in Henry and pick-up Sam Day

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Sam Day

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33

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196cm

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106kg

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Fwd

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9.8

2star

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5.2

2star

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4.6

3star

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3.5

4star

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1.8

4star

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0.7

4star

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8.0

2star

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3.6

1star

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4.4

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.9

4star

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8.6

3star

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3.2

2star

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5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.2

3star

as insurance, imo.

 

[Saucery]

In fortitudine credimus

He's been patient and now a god damn Premiership player, beloved by the club and as hard as a cats head.

If anyone deserves first shot at the forward/ruck role it's Fort, not some washed up has been leavings from another side.

IMO he deserves to be in a lot more conversations than just "yeah he covered well for Big O".

We can't replace Joe, but let's see if we can keep the majority of the side together that took us to the pinnacle.

Out Joe

In Fort

I'm going to have a little lie down now as my wife told me to.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

I was very worried by Smith's pretty terrible senior appearances this year, but I will say he looked a lot better in the reserves, especially in the ruck, and was a pretty good kick for goal. If the club thinks he'll come on then I trust their judgement over mine any day.

I don't see any urgent need to bring in another tall forward -- let's shake it up a bit, keep the oppo guessing and rotate a bunch of smalls and medium-sized players through there. We have the talent.

 

[Pns_blister]

Poster in the know over on Hawk’s trade and FA board has said Mitch Lewis to Lions. Not sure how on earth we could satisfy them. Contracted to 2026.

 

[M Malice]

Poster in the know over on Hawk’s trade and FA board has said Mitch Lewis to Lions. Not sure how on earth we could satisfy them. Contracted to 2026.

Robertson and Tunstill for Mitch Lewis.

Am i miss remembering or did Lewis do an ACL recently, didn't play much if at all this season.

 

[Pns_blister]

Robertson and Tunstill for Mitch Lewis.

Am i miss remembering or did Lewis do an ACL recently, didn't play much if at all this season.

Did his ACL again after only a few games back.

 

[rye]

Poster in the know over on Hawk’s trade and FA board has said Mitch Lewis to Lions. Not sure how on earth we could satisfy them. Contracted to 2026.

worth peanuts.

cant stay on the park.