List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Hollow Knight]

I deeply resent this talk of rorts. I am infuriated by the discussion that we may in some way be "rorting".

This system, designed and run by the all knowing and all powerful AFL is fair, equitable, balanced and unmatched in its even handedness. It's ability to provide a level playing field is unparalleled.

I would suggest full board bans for posters who continue to publish lies, fake news and untruths. It is unacceptable to allow these sorts of rumours and allegations to go unchecked.

If they take our rorts away, I’m going to sue for restraint of trade.

 

[scoman]

I think we can take 7 picks to the draft if we:

• Retire/ delist/ trade - Joe, Lyons, Madden, Lane, Michael, Sharp and Dev
• Wait until after the draft to sign Craven and Prior

This gives us 9 spots, 2 of which have been filled by Beecken and McLachlan I think?

Which will then mean we probably take 5 guys in the draft, if we want to keep Craven and Prior.

Is this correct?

 

[Hollow Knight]

I do agree. Just seems too good to be true that they give us all those points and then don't take him at 1

There is no way they bid on him at pick 1. Seriously don’t stress about it.

A club having pick 1 is often a once a generation marketing boon. They aren’t going to pass up the marketing value of having pick 1 just to keep a club honest. They’d also be robbing their first pick of the prestige, marketing value and the cash prize that comes with being pick 1 and basically telling him that they are the consolation prize.

The bid on Levi will be #2. Lock it in and don’t waste another second worrying about it.

 

[Elixuh]

If they take our rorts away, I’m going to sue for restraint of trade.

Ffs I’ve had it up to here with all the bush lawyers on this website. It’s restraint of RORT or to use its legal Latin phrasing, da che parte è la stazione ferroviaria

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Just found out Harry Sharp got 4 years at Melbourne, not a bad result for him. Did not want to go at all, loves the boys and the club, but was realistic as to where he was in the pecking order.

 

[drapes11]

Slightly off topic but figure this is the action thread today. Did anyone catch what Zac Bailey's injury was this year? I know he had the leg injury after Melbourne (where he looked really good) but the roar deal mentioned in one of their marathons 'we know zac played with an injury'? he had quite a down year. was really good vs cats though in the prelim, would have been best on if he kicked straight. could be someone to kick more goals next year

Chris Fagan mentioned it in the B&F speech where he spoke about each of the players. I believe it was a lisfranc injury and then also mentioned multiple illnesses

 

[Harry Haller]

I don't think Craven and Beecken currently have spots. Assuming that McLachlan takes Lane's spot. I think we currently have four primary list spots available with Sharp and Dev possibly going and prior in limbo.

 

[Nunez]

Beecken will stay on next year imo.

 

[Ozzy_Lion]

Imagine playing Kiddy on the wing with his left peg and decision making.

Not a great runner, would you trust him to get back and help in defence?

 

[Perrip]

I think we can take 7 picks to the draft if we:

• Retire/ delist/ trade - Joe, Lyons, Madden, Lane, Michael, Sharp and Dev
• Wait until after the draft to sign Craven and Prior

This gives us 9 spots, 2 of which have been filled by Beecken and McLachlan I think?

Which will then mean we probably take 5 guys in the draft, if we want to keep Craven and Prior.

Is this correct?

At the moment we have:
Primary list: 34
Rookie list: 6 CAT As 2 CAT Bs
Sharp/Dev Rob moves it down to 32.
We'd have 4 open list spots to draft players to equal the minimum list size of 36 players without decreasing the amount of Cat A Rookies we're allowed to have [6]

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Not a great runner, would you trust him to get back and help in defence?

Think he reads the play well enough to know when to go and when not too. Imagine him being the man to receive the handball on the outside and deliver inside 50. Good mark as well.

 

[davemc_lions]

The bid on Levi will be #2. Lock it in and don’t waste another second worrying about it.

Think Bid #1 gets $10k and Bid #2 gets $5k. So you think Bid 3 as keeping us honest cost their #2 $5k

 

[Dalions]

Just found out Harry Sharp got 4 years at Melbourne, not a bad result for him. Did not want to go at all, loves the boys and the club, but was realistic as to where he was in the pecking order.

If they have offered him 4 years they should give up a decent pick for him.
Their pick 40 seems pretty fair to me.

 

[Tom14]

Just found out Harry Sharp got 4 years at Melbourne, not a bad result for him. Did not want to go at all, loves the boys and the club, but was realistic as to where he was in the pecking order.

Um lol? Great for Sharpy but come on dees.

 

[Perrip]

Just found out Harry Sharp got 4 years at Melbourne, not a bad result for him. Did not want to go at all, loves the boys and the club, but was realistic as to where he was in the pecking order.

Where'd you see that?

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Where'd you see that?

It’s not in the media yet but the source it come from is 100% strike rate with Lions news over the years. Be surprised if it’s not on the money.

 

[bungalow_bill]

All changing next year, we may only get Daniel Annable in the 2025 draft...although hopefully we get Raphael Geesu as well.

If all we get is a potential top 5 pick I'm ok with that. Geesu sounds a player though so hope we pick him up as well.

 

[bungalow_bill]

St Kilda president Fred Bassat must be shaking in anger at the effectiveness of our rorts.

The only club president with his own comic strip

 

[rye]

have we won trade week yet?

 

[braddsey]

do you mean Form Guide he usually put it out after the trade season is over the last i saw he had Levi at #1 and Mashall at #22

Correct, form guide.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[BRAB]

If we don’t trade in Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

we lose trade week. Sorry not sorry

 

[martinson]

The only ones who don't love a rort are those who aren't in on it.

 

[buttermuffs]

Almost finished the Saints game rewatch for the great Henry Smith debate.

He looks incredibly promising in the ruck but like many have said very very raw up forward. I reckon we can two ruck it if we go all in on working with his forward craft. Split the ruck 60/40 or 65/35 with Oscar rolling forward for decent spells as well.

Someone like Day would be good to pick up as depth at worse or if he can get fully healthy a sneaky option to come in and perform. Though is risky since you need your depth to be healthy.

Onto the Power game!

 

[Nathan Barley]

Almost finished the Saints game rewatch for the great Henry Smith debate.

He looks incredibly promising in the ruck but like many have said very very raw up forward. I reckon we can two ruck it if we go all in on working with his forward craft. Split the ruck 60/40 or 65/35 with Oscar rolling forward for decent spells as well.

Someone like Day would be good to pick up as depth at worse or if he can get fully healthy a sneaky option to come in and perform. Though is risky since you need your depth to be healthy.

Onto the Power game!

We’ve seen Oscar doesn’t like spending less time in the ruck though

 

[buttermuffs]

We’ve seen Oscar doesn’t like spending less time in the ruck though

When was that?

I know he really appreciates rest since it’s hard to ruck at 100% through the game but haven’t seen him not liking spending time forward instead of rucking.