List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[go_the_dockers]

Switta makes sense to me. Pickett is basically Switta that kicks goals. Sturt would have made sense before the contract news as well, but he'd be on a fair bit less than Switta I suspect.

That said, as big of a fan of Sturt as I am, Switta's pressure is probably more valuable than Sturts goals with those two coming in.

I really think Frederick, Emmett and Switta are in trouble.

Only 1 of them makes the 23 next year.

Are any of them good enough to make starting midfield, or willing to be depth. I doubt they make the midfield.

Defence. Walker, cox, Chapman, Pearce, Ryan, Wagner, clark

Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Erasmus , Johnson, Sharp, JoM, O'Driscoll, and Darcy

Amiss, Bolton, Pickett, Treacy, Jackson, Sturt, Switta I think

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Seems good to me. I'd even do it without the 38 and 29 coming back (or later picks in the 40-60 range).

Hadn't thought of Switta to Essendon. Is that your own idea, or have there been rumours? Reckon that makes sense as they are not rebuilding and their small forwards suck. I doubt we'd get that haul though. Maybe one of those picks. Hard to pretend it isn't a salary dump.

I think the two firsts for each of them is pretty big. Those are more than fair / overs so I think its reasonable anything on top to be minor. Removing those 2nds coming back starts getting into crazy land.

Might be right on Switta value, I have nothing there but he makes sense for Essendon. I'd hope we push the line that we don't need to lose him, but we are open to it. Same as Suns and Lukocious

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

i wanna keep erasmus. still very young. will be a serviceable hard running dilligent midfielder. dominating peel at present.

Erasmus doesn't turn 21 until December this year. Despite missing games when he was selected by Fremantle I think he'll go close to winning the Sandover this year. I actually think his kicking and speed off the mark have both improved significantly this year. In my opinion we should keep him and in the not too distant future he'll be playing consistently at afl level.

 

[Joao]

I really think Frederick, Emmett and Switta are in trouble.

Only 1 of them makes the 23 next year.

Are any of them good enough to make starting midfield, or willing to be depth. I doubt they make the midfield.

Defence. Walker, cox, Chapman, Pearce, Ryan, Wagner, clark

Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Erasmus , Johnson, Sharp, JoM, O'Driscoll, and Darcy

Amiss, Bolton, Pickett, Treacy, Jackson, Sturt, Switta I think

I'd say Emmett is cooked and Freddy is in zero danger. Freddy plays a different role to either of those two and is not replaced by either.

Freddy would also be a better winger than JoM.

Clubs absolutely love blokes that are fast and can run.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I assume he means as steak knives like Blake Acres. Either way I agree with your sentiment. We have a role for Erasmus - if he can have a big pre-season. We need to phase out Fyfe. But more size and muscle added to his body and Ras compliments the other boys well. Fyfe can stay but spend more games as sub and managed.

No point flicking off Erasmus for meaningless late 2nd or as steak knives.

Ras is important. Should be kept and given real opportunity. Full games not just a sub here and there. No one can tell me he can't match JOM output right now and has a higher ceiling and potential to grow.

 

[JammoMonty]

Peter Vlahos on sen with some Bolton and Pickett news.

Says Bolton is on 800k a year
Thinks Pickett is on 900k a year.

Says the stumbling block particularly for Pickett is the money. His mail is his contract $ is a big reason it might not go ahead.

I know for a fact that Bolton is on 1M per year. Pickett is way off. Much less than that.

 

[Joao]

I know for a fact that Bolton is on 1M per year. Pickett is way off. Much less than that.

Which means together they cost similar/less than Battle + Barrass.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Bolton has agreed to extend his contract by 2 years to smooth his money out. No sauce because I can't remember where I heard it or read it.

 

[Jezzitizle]

I wonder if we need trades/retirements to fit them both in the cap.

Even then, hard to understand how we could fit them in unless the Tigers pay a massive portion.

Bolton seems a certainty, Pickett far less so. Both without losing key players would be a A+ offseason, regardless of how the draft goes.

The whole Warner thing doesn’t seem to have legs in the media.

 

[Docker82]

I really think Frederick, Emmett and Switta are in trouble.

Only 1 of them makes the 23 next year.

Are any of them good enough to make starting midfield, or willing to be depth. I doubt they make the midfield.

Defence. Walker, cox, Chapman, Pearce, Ryan, Wagner, clark

Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Erasmus , Johnson, Sharp, JoM, O'Driscoll, and Darcy

Amiss, Bolton, Pickett, Treacy, Jackson, Sturt, Switta I think

I'm going a midfielder short if those are our forwards tbh.

Frederick in, Erasmus out.

That does look a little too good tbh - good chance someone sees themselves as fringe and leaves.

 

[eastfreo75]

Big list management issues
1. Fyfe, Walters and OMeara are past it and we need their leadership.
2. Cox, Pearce and Darcy seems to miss a lot of games.
3. Erasmus needs to get games or he will look elsewhere.
4. Aish, do we keep for depth?
5. If we get both Pickett and Bolton, who gets pushed?
6. Simpson does he have a chance to make best 22?

 

[go_the_dockers]

I'm going a midfielder short if those are our forwards tbh.

Frederick in, Erasmus out.

That does look a little too good tbh - good chance someone sees themselves as fringe and leaves.

You need an inside mid bull. Erasmus stays.

Joao said Frederick in for JoM which I like. Either way, our top 26 players are elite.

 

[Jezzitizle]

I don’t think the penny has dropped at the Dees, they don’t yet realise this era is over - the fans may, but I doubt the club does.

I think they will hold Kossie to his contract, and Trac too.

 

[Docker82]

You need an inside mid bull. Erasmus stays.

Joao said Frederick in for JoM which I like. Either way, our top 26 players are elite.

I have Brayshaw, Serong, Young, NOD and Johnson as our inside mids next season tbh. NOD to go out the wing on occasions and Bolton and/or Switta to have stints through the middle.

It’s a bigger midfield than the one that beat us last week. As long as we have no mids that are a defensive liability and competent ruck I think that midfield can compete with just about anyone.

 

[Buggerations]

Switta makes sense to me. Pickett is basically Switta that kicks goals. Sturt would have made sense before the contract news as well, but he'd be on a fair bit less than Switta I suspect.

That said, as big of a fan of Sturt as I am, Switta's pressure is probably more valuable than Sturts goals with those two coming in.



Possible for sure. JammoMonty still sounds convinced he's coming home next year though.


100% There will be posturing and egos to work through.

Bolton and Pickett in with Switta out still considerably strengthens the forward line...

Could something like 10, 27 & Switta for Bolton, and 9 and 17 for Pickett work?

 

[Joao]

Bolton and Pickett in with Switta out still considerably strengthens the forward line...

Could something like 10, 27 & Switta for Bolton, and 9 and 17 for Pickett work?

Yeah it does, but forward pressure was a big issue so adding Kossie to Switta would really help.


Possibly, but I suspect both teams gun for the 2nd first.

 

[Joao]

O'Meara should still be best 22 next year. Switkowski goes out.

Hope we get Baker.

NFW JoM adds more than Switta.

 

[Joao]

If O'Meara gets going, he is a top quality player.

Sure, and that hasn't happened since 2014.

 

[wakojako]

NFW JoM adds more than Switta.

I am confident if we get both of Pickett and Bolton that Switta will be traded or a part of the deal. It's good business and there is definitely things happening behind the scenes regarding his future.

 

[nurries]

Sure, and that hasn't happened since 2014.

Yep that ship has sailed

 

[Joao]

I am confident if we get both of Pickett and Bolton that Switta will be traded or a part of the deal. It's good business and Switta's future there is definitely things happening behind the scenes regarding his future.

It's not a massive issue if he goes, but if the question is who would I rather in the team (especially forward) out of JoM and Switta, its Switta by plenty.

 

[Docker82]

It's not a massive issue if he goes, but if the question is who would I rather in the team (especially forward) out of JoM and Switta, its Switta by plenty.

Agree but there’s still a role for JOM at somewhere reasonably close to his best.

And by that I don’t mean 2014 JOM - I mean 2024 JOM excluding his worst few games.

 

[Joao]

Agree but there’s still a role for JOM at somewhere reasonably close to his best.

And by that I don’t mean 2014 JOM - I mean 2024 JOM excluding his worst few games.

I'm sure he'll play plenty, but NoD is a better winger and the forwardline is looking pretty stacked if it all goes to plan.

Think he's going to find it a fair bit harder than he has to date.

 

[poshman]

I think the two firsts for each of them is pretty big. Those are more than fair / overs so I think its reasonable anything on top to be minor. Removing those 2nds coming back starts getting into crazy land.

Might be right on Switta value, I have nothing there but he makes sense for Essendon. I'd hope we push the line that we don't need to lose him, but we are open to it. Same as Suns and Lukocious

I made the mistake of reading the thread on the Richmond board. A lot here seem to think that one first rounder would be fair in a normal scenario for Bolton and anything above is overs due to contract and wanting salary concessions. Over there it seems like it is 3 firsts or nothing. He is a very good player, but that is madness. There aren't that many good players in the league. Would you give up that for trac, a top five player in the league?

2 firsts for each is steep and well overs. I would pay it, and would be praying to the injury and fitness gods for a few years.

 

[danster168]

danster168 where you at

I'm here mate. what have I missed?