List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Snuffaluphagus]

We don't know if this is true or not but how can we be close to the cap. Cap increase coming along and multiple delisitings/retiring to occur. Also if we are not paying Richmond to take on Shai's salary they should be sacked.

How can we not be close to the cap with the talent we have and supposedly in the running for all of Baker, Pickett, Warner and Bolton? It's very likely the club can have at most, two of those names. Personally, if you can make them happen this year its Pickett and Bolton without thinking

 

[maccamk]

Is Rosa’s a salary dump?


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[King Huskii]

I say make more room

Well we have wasted some cap space on signing up Banfield. Could have gone directly to Kossie

 

[s_wd6]

Nah they are big on pushing Brennan out the door

I’m just saying if we HAD to, he’s the best option.

 

[wakojako]

How can we not be close to the cap with the talent we have and supposedly in the running for all of Baker, Pickett, Warner and Bolton? It's very likely the club can have at most, two of those names. Personally, if you can make them happen this year its Pickett and Bolton without thinking

I interpreted it as not having enough cap space for both Bolton and Pickett which we should do. Especially if Richmond pay some of Bolton's salary.

 

[MadMundy]

Reckon it's pretty selfish that all the players I want to come to Freo won't take a pay cut to personally make me happy.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Well we have wasted some cap space on signing up Banfield. Could have gone directly to Kossie

Fyfe, Jom, Walters , Aish, Brodie.

A fair bit of wasted cash next year.

 

[Boomer93]

Picket becoming unlikely is heart breaking.

Surely we already have a fair chunk of cap space considering how many players we have let go of recently. We need to salary dump Brodie and Jaeger to our neighbours.

 

[MadMundy]

Picket becoming unlikely is heart breaking.

Surely we already have a fair chunk of cap space considering how many players we have let go of recently. We need to salary dump Brodie and Jaeger to our neighbours.

Send them both to Gold Coast where it all started, probably get 4 first rounders from them.

 

[nurries]

Fyfe, Jom, Walters , Aish, Brodie.

A fair bit of wasted cash next year.

Yep maybe a year too early for Kossie?

 

[mightymouse75]

Picket becoming unlikely is heart breaking.

Surely we already have a fair chunk of cap space considering how many players we have let go of recently. We need to salary dump Brodie and Jaeger to our neighbours.

Picket over Bolton any day of the week.
Plus Melbourne owe us for bending over for Jackson, Hogan and Langdon.

 

[Boomer93]

I dont consider Aish to be wasted cap space tbh. He wouldnt be on a great deal and is very handy depth for a number of positions. The others are a bit of a nightmare though.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Yep maybe a year too early for Kossie?

I would love Kosi over almost anyone.

Just hard to get contracted players.

 

[Boomer93]

Picket over Bolton any day of the week.
Plus Melbourne owe us for bending over for Jackson, Hogan and Langdon.

I some what agree however I wasnt talking about one or the other, I want both haha

 

[Docker82]

I dont consider Aish to be wasted cap space tbh. He wouldnt be on a great deal and is very handy depth for a number of positions. The others are a bit of a nightmare though.

Not that confident in our other HBF depth tbh. At least Aish keeps it at an okay level when we develop someone else.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I interpreted it as not having enough cap space for both Bolton and Pickett which we should do. Especially if Richmond pay some of Bolton's salary.

The number 1 narrative from everyone the whole year has been we want Warner. If it is true that cap is an issue (which would seem odd and piss me off even more given RDs tweets on it), it is because Bolton, Warner AND Pickett is a bridge too far and I mean really, if Carlton does that are we not calling for investigation?

I maintain, Warner can re-sign and I am not ever passing up adding Pickett with Bolton because of cap

 

[Rockmelon]

Think that’s the real issue, to get Richmond to pay a large chunk of Boltons contract we need to caugh up the good picks 9&10, we probably asked the what it looks like with 9&17 and they said “your paying his salary” so either have the cap space but not the picks, or we have the picks but not the cap space.

Especially when we don’t know what pick ports will end up being. Best case scenario is 13 or 14 which suddenly becomes more appealing then 17 or 18

 

[Boomer93]

The number 1 narrative from everyone the whole year has been we want Warner. If it is true that cap is an issue (which would seem odd and piss me off even more given RDs tweets on it), it is because Bolton, Warner AND Pickett is a bridge too far and I mean really, if Carlton does that are we not calling for investigation?

I maintain, Warner can re-sign and I am not ever passing up adding Pickett with Bolton because of cap

We should be fine for cap space shouldnt we? By all reports we have been attempting to pay unders to almost everyone, which has lead to a tonne of players leaving.

Would we have expected to lose players if Schultz, Henry, Blake Acres, Griffin Logue, Darcy Tucker, Rory Lobb, Lloyd Meek etc had stayed?

I get that some players have taken off like Treacy, but before him we were planning big money for McDonald. That would be the money for Bolton.

Salary dump of Brodie and a trade of Switta easily gets us enough for Picket.

Then we could do a heap of moves to get enough money to squeeze Warner in.

 

[King Huskii]

Fyfe, Jom, Walters , Aish, Brodie.

A fair bit of wasted cash next year.

I'd keep Aish but rid the rest

I think Freo are timing it so next year we have a tone of cap space for Warner if he is interested and Pickett took them by surprise a bit. You wouldn't blink at delisting Banfield knowing Pickett and Bolton are heading over.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We should be fine for cap space shouldnt we? By all reports we have been attempting to pay unders to almost everyone, which has lead to a tonne of players leaving.

Would we have expected to lose players if Schultz, Henry, Blake Acres, Griffin Logue, Darcy Tucker, Rory Lobb, Lloyd Meek etc had stayed?

I get that some players have taken off like Treacy, but before him we were planning big money for McDonald. That would be the money for Bolton.

Salary dump of Brodie and a trade of Switta easily gets us enough for Picket.

Then we could do a heap of moves to get enough money to squeeze Warner in.

It's too hard to know, caps are too fluid with the way they are juggled. I would personally think Pickett being on less means him and one of Bolton and Warner is maybe possible without losing anyone this year or next. Someone decent has to go out to get all three IMO, you're talking about needing $3m of capspace

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

To put in perspective how hard it is to just add $3m in cap. The salary cap next year is $17.8m. That's 17% of the cap AND you literally have to pay 90% of the cap each year...

 

[Boomer93]

It's too hard to know, caps are too fluid with the way they are juggled. I would personally think Pickett being on less means him and one of Bolton and Warner is maybe possible without losing anyone this year or next. Someone decent has to go out to get all three IMO, you're talking about needing $3m of capspace

Do you still have hope of pickett?

 

[wakojako]

The number 1 narrative from everyone the whole year has been we want Warner. If it is true that cap is an issue (which would seem odd and piss me off even more given RDs tweets on it), it is because Bolton, Warner AND Pickett is a bridge too far and I mean really, if Carlton does that are we not calling for investigation?

I maintain, Warner can re-sign and I am not ever passing up adding Pickett with Bolton because of cap

Bolton and Pickett Is a superio combo, Walls needs to forget about Warner. Richmond and Hawthorn dynasties were built on elite small forwards.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Do you still have hope of pickett?

This year? Not much of a hope (thought it's not totally dead IMO) but if it is universally accepted he basically hates Victoria there has to be a chance down the road

 

[pK75]

We should be fine for cap space shouldnt we? By all reports we have been attempting to pay unders to almost everyone, which has lead to a tonne of players leaving.

Would we have expected to lose players if Schultz, Henry, Blake Acres, Griffin Logue, Darcy Tucker, Rory Lobb, Lloyd Meek etc had stayed?

I get that some players have taken off like Treacy, but before him we were planning big money for McDonald. That would be the money for Bolton.

Salary dump of Brodie and a trade of Switta easily gets us enough for Picket.

Then we could do a heap of moves to get enough money to squeeze Warner in.

I think the Treacy extension would have eaten a fair chunk of the Logan $$ and fair enough, he earned it.
Warner next year means both Fyfe and Walters are gone, so that close to 800k freed up (depending on how much was AFL marketing money) Bolton at 1.2 is the Warner money. If we can get Bolton at 800 and trade out a couple on 4-500 we can probably fit Pickett as well, that’s consistent with the “they have a fair bit on their plate” comments we have heard from a lot of the media.