List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[go_the_dockers]

Yeah I reckon you can poop in one hand and wish in the other and see which hand fills up quicker.

In the real world West Coast are looking at Warner the same way we are, but we have 2 more first round picks than them NOW.


We wait one more year and we’re back on equal footing where most likely their firsts are slightly better than ours, and Harley Reid is tearing the comp a new a-hole while we heck around in tenth position because our midfielders can’t help kick goals

I like to think that Harley Reid is starting to be noise about heading back to Victorian.

Yeo has gone, McGovern and co are all injured and they are a bottom 2 side for the next 5 years.


I can dream anyway

 

[Gussman]

If Warner was to request a trade Sydney would probably prefer it to be this year. We have 3 first rounders the best 2 of which Sydney could reasonably demand and probably even more. If they hold him to contract and wait a year they will struggle to get 2 first rounders off of us.

 

[wakojako]

In the real world West Coast are looking at Warner the same way we are, but we have 2 more first round picks than them NOW.

We wait one more year and we’re back on equal footing where most likely their firsts are slightly better than ours, and Harley Reid is tearing the comp a new a-hole while we heck around in tenth position because our midfielders can’t help kick goals

People are forgetting a few factors here which tip the scales either way:
1. Liam Baker- reportedly asking for $800k which is a big chunk out of valuable cap space for either team. If he ends up in purple say goodbye to Warner.
2 Logan McDonald- if he wants to come home, would the Eagles pursue him? Another decent chunk out of the salary cap if they do.
3. Harley Reid- will be paid between $1m to $1.5m, can the Eagles afford to pay Warner as well?
4. Who do we have to cut from the list/trade out do we can pay Warner?

 

[Alfonz]

slow down, 3 firsts for warner. Surely 2 is the max you offer.

Plus there is a enough forward talent there, that we will get something with our picks.

Draft Power Rankings: Key position twins rocket up the top 20

In an AFL draft crop top-heavy with midfielders, a pair of key position players -- twins, in fact -- have made their move up ESPN's May Power Rankings, writes Jasper Chellappah.

www.espn.com.au

6. Sid Draper (Could slide to our first pick)
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals

An all-round dynamic on-baller with an edge to the way he plays, Draper has had a delayed start to his top-age campaign with a stress fracture discovered in his shin. SA's MVP at the state championships could do no wrong last year and will be aiming to solidify his draft credentials when he returns to action in a month's time.

7. Christian Moraes (7)
Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 4 games, 26.0 disposals, 6.3 marks, 2.3 goals

An elite aerobic athlete boasting snappy movement with ball in hand, Moraes excites around the forward line and as an outside midfielder. He's kicking bags of goals for a powerful Ranges outfit and forms a potent combination with Smillie out of centre bounces, though hasn't proved his inside grunt work can match his dazzling play in transition.

10. Taj Hotton (11)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals

The big riser from last year is Hotton, a forward-turned-midfielder whose aerobic base has come on in leaps and bounds. He is composed and sharp with the footy and bites off corridor kicks with impressive accuracy. Hotton will hold onto the ball with bold evasiveness until he finds the right option.

11. Jobe Shanahan (20)
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 12.2 disposals, 4.6 marks, 2.0 goals

Shanahan continues to impress aerially, clunking pack marks and making his presence felt leading out of the goal square. He's also spent time up the ground where his work rate gets him up and down the wings to provide an outlet out of defence. Able to leap on heads and typically an accurate set shot, Shanahan could rocket into the top-10 with a strong carnival.

14. Joe Berry (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 180cm
Talent League: 5 games, 13.6 disposals, 4.0 tackles, 3.2 goals

The in-form small forward across the country is Berry, a full-tilt pressuriser who thrives in the chaos of forward 50 contests. He's a chasedown artist, has a beautiful left foot set shot and can work up the ground to boot. Berry's defensive mentality and talent with the football will make him an in-demand small forward.


19. Isaac Kako (unranked)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
Talent League: 5 games, 16.6 disposals, 3.8 marks, 2.0 goals

Kako is must-watch, a dynamo with the ball and wrecking ball without. He hits contests at full tilt and loves to pressure and tackle, plus can play as a lead-up forward on the wings to provide outlets. Kako doesn't have the best goal nous of the small forwards in this draft, but his frenetic energy and ability to stay involved in games has been impressive this year. An Essendon NGA prospect, but a bid can't be matched until pick 40 in the draft.

You have to consider where those firsts are going to be. Port and Pies look like being top 6. We might be just in/out of the 8. That would mean 3 picks between say 10-18, and likely to be pushed out further with academy and compo picks.

If we want a contracted Warner, I think it would definitely require all 3 of our firsts, especially if one or more of Freo/Port/Pies make the prelim or better. While I can understand hitting the draft, I'd personally take Warner over 3 of those unproven kids you have listed (or Baker and two of the kids).

 

[DragoDelph]

You have to consider where those firsts are going to be. Port and Pies look like being top 6. We might be just in/out of the 8. That would mean 3 picks between say 10-18, and likely to be pushed out further with academy and compo picks.

If we want a contracted Warner, I think it would definitely require all 3 of our firsts, especially if one or more of Freo/Port/Pies make the prelim or better. While I can understand hitting the draft, I'd personally take Warner over 3 of those unproven kids you have listed (or Baker and two of the kids).

And what seems to be missing, is we're likely to also get other picks back in return.

If Sydney have a bunch of firsts, they don't need seconds/thirds.

 

[academicbowl]

Sydney rarely lose em tbh

Lost Dawson when he wanted to go home so it's not impossible

 

[Alfonz]

People are forgetting a few factors here which tip the scales either way:
1. Liam Baker- reportedly asking for $800k which is a big chunk out of valuable cap space for either team. If he ends up in purple say goodbye to Warner.
2 Logan McDonald- if he wants to come home, would the Eagles pursue him? Another decent chunk out of the salary cap if they do.
3. Harley Reid- will be paid between $1m to $1.5m, can the Eagles afford to pay Warner as well?
4. Who do we have to cut from the list/trade out do we can pay Warner?

WC would also be weighing up how hard to chase English this year (seemingly no noise about that?), and Sam Taylor next year. The latter especially as McGovern winds down and Barrass is not a spring chicken. Taylor is RFA end of 2025, so good luck to WC if they are trying to get both Taylor and Warner.

We also have Jackson and Sharp, two of Warner's good mates that he has played with for a long time through juniors. I think it counts for something at least. Get all 3 and I reckon we are a huge chance for Rivers, who is signed out to the end of 27 and I reckon could be a good target with Melbourne likely in the current Hawks/Richmond situation. We'll be looking to replace the likes of Ryan and Aish down back.

 

[Joao]

Without wanting to stoke the fire, from the Sydney board's ITK.

Freo in it up to their eyeballs apparently.

My understanding is they will def make an offer and its going to be significant. Got some other stuff but can't say for now still very unconfirmed.

#chadlocked

 

[apuchar]

slow down, 3 firsts for warner. Surely 2 is the max you offer.

Plus there is a enough forward talent there, that we will get something with our picks.

Draft Power Rankings: Key position twins rocket up the top 20

In an AFL draft crop top-heavy with midfielders, a pair of key position players -- twins, in fact -- have made their move up ESPN's May Power Rankings, writes Jasper Chellappah.

www.espn.com.au

6. Sid Draper (Could slide to our first pick)
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals

An all-round dynamic on-baller with an edge to the way he plays, Draper has had a delayed start to his top-age campaign with a stress fracture discovered in his shin. SA's MVP at the state championships could do no wrong last year and will be aiming to solidify his draft credentials when he returns to action in a month's time.

7. Christian Moraes (7)
Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 4 games, 26.0 disposals, 6.3 marks, 2.3 goals

An elite aerobic athlete boasting snappy movement with ball in hand, Moraes excites around the forward line and as an outside midfielder. He's kicking bags of goals for a powerful Ranges outfit and forms a potent combination with Smillie out of centre bounces, though hasn't proved his inside grunt work can match his dazzling play in transition.

10. Taj Hotton (11)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals

The big riser from last year is Hotton, a forward-turned-midfielder whose aerobic base has come on in leaps and bounds. He is composed and sharp with the footy and bites off corridor kicks with impressive accuracy. Hotton will hold onto the ball with bold evasiveness until he finds the right option.

11. Jobe Shanahan (20)
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 12.2 disposals, 4.6 marks, 2.0 goals

Shanahan continues to impress aerially, clunking pack marks and making his presence felt leading out of the goal square. He's also spent time up the ground where his work rate gets him up and down the wings to provide an outlet out of defence. Able to leap on heads and typically an accurate set shot, Shanahan could rocket into the top-10 with a strong carnival.

14. Joe Berry (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 180cm
Talent League: 5 games, 13.6 disposals, 4.0 tackles, 3.2 goals

The in-form small forward across the country is Berry, a full-tilt pressuriser who thrives in the chaos of forward 50 contests. He's a chasedown artist, has a beautiful left foot set shot and can work up the ground to boot. Berry's defensive mentality and talent with the football will make him an in-demand small forward.


19. Isaac Kako (unranked)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
Talent League: 5 games, 16.6 disposals, 3.8 marks, 2.0 goals

Kako is must-watch, a dynamo with the ball and wrecking ball without. He hits contests at full tilt and loves to pressure and tackle, plus can play as a lead-up forward on the wings to provide outlets. Kako doesn't have the best goal nous of the small forwards in this draft, but his frenetic energy and ability to stay involved in games has been impressive this year. An Essendon NGA prospect, but a bid can't be matched until pick 40 in the draft.

Taj Hotten did a knee unfortunately.

 

[Bastyy]

Without wanting to stoke the fire, from the Sydney board's ITK.





#chadlocked

I might begin celebrating the 2025 premiership now if that doesn't bother anyone

 

[Taylor]

If there is a contracted Docker who isn't super critical to our game that Sydney are courting it would be very convenient right about now.

 

[apuchar]

If there is a contracted Docker who isn't super critical to our game that Sydney are courting it would be very convenient right about now.

Smaller ground every second week, which would suit one of them

 

[nurries]

Just get the Chad. Imagine adding that speed and power to an already good midfield.

#bringhomethechad

 

[Shadow Man]

Smaller ground every second week, which would suit one of them

Brodie, if made wrangling a Warner deal possible.

 

[freo84]

Without wanting to stoke the fire, from the Sydney board's ITK.





#chadlocked

white noise

"Ooooooperation No chance is a go. I repeat Operation No chance is a go."

white noise

 

[Quazar2]

white noise

"Ooooooperation No chance is a go. I repeat Operation No chance is a go."

white noise

 

[DragoDelph]

Excellent..

 

[Joao]

If nothing else, we can all be completely insufferable to all the Swans fans until he signs...













... with us.

 

[RUNVS]

If nothing else, we can all be completely insufferable to all the Swans fans until his signs...













... with us.

To be honest I don't think Fremantle fans have it in them to be insufferable

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We are going to need the opposite of a death ride for Swans...

GO SWANS!!!

 

[wakojako]

Without wanting to stoke the fire, from the Sydney board's ITK.





#chadlocked

Hey bro, can't find the thread that was quoted from. Could you provide a link?

 

[gaskin]

Hey bro, can't find the thread that was quoted from. Could you provide a link?

It is in the Warner thread.

 

[DragoDelph]

Is ticky’s source Snuffaluphagus ?

 

[Deathly]

I can't believe I'm saying this but if missing out on Smith means we land Warner then I'm all for it.

 

[wakojako]