Player Watch 2025 AFL Draft Thread (Welcome to our new Central Districts overlords!)

[The Chad and I]

I have not liked Farrow much, in 1 game Metro kicked 10 points and he had 16 touches at half time, 10 from kickins, his kicking isnt as good as people have claimed, looks like more a maybe pick up than first rounder i wonder which nuffie got the media stuck on him?, Ludowyke has issues kicking at goal which has turned me off him so 2 players i wouldn't draft imo.

His clips mostly show him running in space, often behind the ball, picking up easy possessions.
Not against the lad, but the clips don't show much at all, and your comment about 10 kick-ins has me a bit sceptical about him as a player.

Honestly, rather than these highlight clips, I'd much rather a clip of a player's total engagements in play in a single match.

That tells us much more than simply his best moments, and shows how he competes, thinks/reacts in different situations, ball use, while also showing strengths/weaknesses.

People often do that for a single player in the premier league e.g. clip of all involvement in a single game, and they're telling.

 

[SunshineHawkCal]

His clips mostly show him running in space, often behind the ball, picking up easy possessions.
Not against the lad, but the clips don't show much at all, and your comment about 10 kick-ins has me a bit sceptical about him as a player.

Honestly, rather than these highlight clips, I'd much rather a clip of a player's total engagements in play in a single match.

That tells us much more than simply his best moments, and shows how he competes, thinks/reacts in different situations, ball use, while also showing strengths/weaknesses.

People often do that for a single player in the premier league e.g. clip of all involvement in a single game, and they're telling.

So no to Farrow & take a punt on Marsh or trade back with Eagles & take Hibbens-Hargreaves

 

[VandoHawk]

You guys are underselling Farrow.

It was his performances in the midfield that impressed me. He's not getting as much of the ball as half-back but he's able to win the ball contest and distribute it fairly well. He's not hitting bullets, but his kicks are usually to advantage even if a bit loopy.

He just does a lot of things really well. He's physical with defensive application. He's able to win contested ball, and he's capable of playing uncontested roles. His kicking is good. His overhead marking shows promise. He's got decent speed.

Get him into a good system and I think he's one of the few players in the draft with A-grade potential. He needs work, but it's there.

 

[FB19]

His clips mostly show him running in space, often behind the ball, picking up easy possessions.
Not against the lad, but the clips don't show much at all, and your comment about 10 kick-ins has me a bit sceptical about him as a player.

Honestly, rather than these highlight clips, I'd much rather a clip of a player's total engagements in play in a single match.

That tells us much more than simply his best moments, and shows how he competes, thinks/reacts in different situations, ball use, while also showing strengths/weaknesses.

People often do that for a single player in the premier league e.g. clip of all involvement in a single game, and they're telling.

The footy stuff channel on YouTube does exactly that shows all involvements.

 

[MazHawk]

"The Hawks will make two or three selections in the national draft, on top of promoting James Blanck to the primary list. Max Ramsden is the only Hawthorn rookie left on the list, and has one more season of eligibility. There seems a decent chance they may leave a spot open post-draft."

This makes sense in that we'll be using both 10 & 22 and picking up either Setters or Phillips.

Seven list spots open.

 

[FB19]

"The Hawks will make two or three selections in the national draft, on top of promoting James Blanck to the primary list. Max Ramsden is the only Hawthorn rookie left on the list, and has one more season of eligibility. There seems a decent chance they may leave a spot open post-draft."

This makes sense in that we'll be using both 10 & 22 and picking up either Setters or Phillips.

Seven list spots open.

Assuming we plan to fill the list then 3 ND selections and a DFA is 4 of 7, where are the other 3 coming from?

 

[tl92]

Assuming we plan to fill the list then 3 ND selections and a DFA is 4 of 7, where are the other 3 coming from?

Rookies

 

[MazHawk]

Assuming we plan to fill the list then 3 ND selections and a DFA is 4 of 7, where are the other 3 coming from?

I doubt we'd be filling the list, definitely leaving one or two spots open for the MSD and into next year.

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Hey Davo, interesting take on Farrow - does this means you prefer taking Greaves @10 or do you prefer someone else?

 

[kazzooka]

Could we just throw the mother of offers at Walsh. One that carlton can't match?

I doubt we could gather enough money for that as Carlton have traded out Curnow, let Silvagni and TDK go too.

What is more likely is that now that there premiership window is shut, Voss is in trouble next year, Cripps is just about done. They will probably get a very very good compensation pick for losing Walsh so that'll give them 2x top 10 picks next year plus Sydney's first.

They have 9 and 11 this year and Dead as F/S (granted those 2 picks are currently in a dangerous spot for them, almost certain to try and trade in ahead of the bid, or into next year for later picks this year.

 

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I doubt we could gather enough money for that as Carlton have traded out Curnow, let Silvagni and TDK go too.

What is more likely is that now that there premiership window is shut, Voss is in trouble next year, Cripps is just about done. They will probably get a very very good compensation pick for losing Walsh so that'll give them 2x top 10 picks next year plus Sydney's first.

They have 9 and 11 this year and Dead as F/S (granted those 2 picks are currently in a dangerous spot for them, almost certain to try and trade in ahead of the bid, or into next year for later picks this year.

They also have Cody Walker coming next year who is consensus top 2 with Dougy Cochrane

 

[lethalselbow09]

What our plan if Adelaide trade up to pick 9 with Carlton to get one of the SA boys?

 

[SunshineHawkCal]

What our plan if Adelaide trade up to pick 9 with Carlton to get one of the SA boys?

Hopefully think about trading back with West Coast

 

[lethalselbow09]

Hopefully think about trading back with West Coast

Would they do that for their pick 13 and a F2? Which player would we be targeting with pick 13? Lindsay, Dovaston or NHH? Do we want to know who gws are likely taking with the pick before?

 

[Dewnior]

"The Hawks will make two or three selections in the national draft, on top of promoting James Blanck to the primary list. Max Ramsden is the only Hawthorn rookie left on the list, and has one more season of eligibility. There seems a decent chance they may leave a spot open post-draft."

This makes sense in that we'll be using both 10 & 22 and picking up either Setters or Phillips.

Seven list spots open.

Are we looking at Willo junior with the 3rd pick?

 

[Dewnior]

I doubt we could gather enough money for that as Carlton have traded out Curnow, let Silvagni and TDK go too.

All that cash would have been used on Hayward and Florent.

We also have the massive reserve we threw at Reid.

 

[The Chad and I]

You guys are underselling Farrow.

It was his performances in the midfield that impressed me. He's not getting as much of the ball as half-back but he's able to win the ball contest and distribute it fairly well. He's not hitting bullets, but his kicks are usually to advantage even if a bit loopy.

He just does a lot of things really well. He's physical with defensive application. He's able to win contested ball, and he's capable of playing uncontested roles. His kicking is good. His overhead marking shows promise. He's got decent speed.

Get him into a good system and I think he's one of the few players in the draft with A-grade potential. He needs work, but it's there.

That doesn't sound like a player worth taking at pick 10.
Is he?

 

[MazHawk]

Only fifteen days to go ...
Fifteen more days of what's going to happen.

 

[Since 2001]

Must draft a 3rd tall fwd to replace gunston, a strong inside mid, KPB

 

[VandoHawk]

That doesn't sound like a player worth taking at pick 10.
Is he?

This is the type of draft where players have significant strengths and weaknesses. Most prospects in the 6-15 range would go later in most drafts. However, I've been vocal that getting them in good systems will result in some gems because you can focus on their strengths.

Take Sharp for example. Phenomenal contested ball winner with defensive application. But lacks leg speed and has limited positional flexibility. Or Greeves. Great skills for a big player and has significant impact when resting forward. But his contested work isn't that great and he lacks pace.

Farrow has above average traits in most areas without a standout attribute.
Dovaston's defensive application and agility are top notch, but he doesn't have the same tricks as other smalls.
Lindsay is the best kick I've seen in the last five years but not much else.
Marsh moves really well and hits the scoreboard but he's low production and an in-between size.
Taylor is a bolter with serious wheels and athleticism but is primarily uncontested and rather skinny.
Barker was showing signs of being the next Issac Smith but then did his ACL.

Whoever you pick around 10 will have queries on them but also developable traits that can be weapons.

 

[mustang]

Would we look at Sullivan Robey if he was available at our pick? To replace Gunston, in a year or two.

 

[tl92]

Would we look at Sullivan Robey if he was available at our pick? To replace Gunston, in a year or two.

Surely but doesn’t seem like he will get past Essendon

 

[Tomohawks]

Would we look at Sullivan Robey if he was available at our pick? To replace Gunston, in a year or two.

Robey is long gone by our pick. Marsh is that man.

 

[The Chad and I]

This is the type of draft where players have significant strengths and weaknesses. Most prospects in the 6-15 range would go later in most drafts. However, I've been vocal that getting them in good systems will result in some gems because you can focus on their strengths.

Take Sharp for example. Phenomenal contested ball winner with defensive application. But lacks leg speed and has limited positional flexibility. Or Greeves. Great skills for a big player and has significant impact when resting forward. But his contested work isn't that great and he lacks pace.

Farrow has above average traits in most areas without a standout attribute.
Dovaston's defensive application and agility are top notch, but he doesn't have the same tricks as other smalls.
Lindsay is the best kick I've seen in the last five years but not much else.
Marsh moves really well and hits the scoreboard but he's low production and an in-between size.
Taylor is a bolter with serious wheels and athleticism but is primarily uncontested and rather skinny.
Barker was showing signs of being the next Issac Smith but then did his ACL.

Whoever you pick around 10 will have queries on them but also developable traits that can be weapons.

Thanks for that breakdown.They're all decent prospects, but i struggle to get excited about any of them.
It makes sense why we went so hard for Merrett, but I'm still quite happy that we missed out.

Lindsay as a player could be like B.Hill:
So good at one thing, that he just might be worth taking with the aim of exploiting that attribute to the max.
Kicking is the ultimate elite weapon to have, so as long as he isn't afraid of the contest, and is willing to work hard, I'd love to add him.

Marsh also a player in a position we need to fill.
A season or two working with Gunston for a near perfect replacement.

 

[Since 2001]

I think there will be alot of comparisons between hawthorn and the scum for this draft. If we end up having the better draft and zach merrett walks next year for less, how would scum fans feel with thou who shall not be named.

I assume if there essendon will go one Sullivan robey, same grlj and Dylan sharp.

Pick 10.

I would love Aidan Schubert to fall to us as a gunston replacement and depth, let him develop for 4 years. By then lewis would be 31 and chol 32.

Let's include mitch marsh into the above aswell.

Lachy dovaston, he just has that individual spark and character that makes you think he could be a star. Linking him up with ginni, wizard, Moore and cmac would be special. It also allows Moore to play more middle for us and the wizard/ginna/cmac to gain centre bounce attendances.

Pick 22.

Ollie greeves, does he slide this far? His draft capital is wide open from our pick at 10 to a second round pick. I think you take the risk of him sliding. I know the questions about his defensive side of the footy, but i believe that is something that can be engrained with our culture. He has great size, toughness, clean hands, loves a contested possession and goal.

Archie ludowyke, same reasons for above if we go greeves first.

Blake threadgold, same rationale for key forwards, would be the eventually tb and Sicily replacement and with McCabe developing would be nice to have the replacements ready and great players to learn from

Matt LeRay is a josh weddle type is damaging player who loves to take the game on, can intercept and has that natural power. Yes his decisions with ball in hand needs improvement, but I believe he is a good value pick here