Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[Bluebag13]

Harry dean at 1030 coming on AFL.com and then Agresta at 1045

 

[Poorman53]

No, it doesn’t.
You can’t draft in more players than you have.
If you trade a future pick in for a current one, somebody has to already have that pick to trade to you. It isn’t created out of thin air.
There are 74 picks in the draft tonight. 54 have points attached (which does replenish slightly). There won’t be 75 players picked over the next 2 nights.

No shit there won't be more than 74 picked. But once the draft starts extra picks can be created via future trading into this year.

Where the pre draft starting rule of needing list spots no longer is required.

 

[Big Delut]

No shit there won't be more than 74 picked. But once the draft starts extra picks can be created via future trading into this year.

Where the pre draft starting rule of needing list spots no longer is required.

Those aren't extra picks though. The 2025 picks would just be changing hands between clubs.

 

[Stamos]

No shit there won't be more than 74 picked. But once the draft starts extra picks can be created via future trading into this year.

Where the pre draft starting rule of needing list spots no longer is required.

No, extra picks aren’t created.
Existing picks change hands, they aren’t ‘new’.

 

[Jimmae]

No shit there won't be more than 74 picked. But once the draft starts extra picks can be created via future trading into this year.

Where the pre draft starting rule of needing list spots no longer is required.

This is half-correct: if a club has less picks than open list spots after a trade, a new pick does become available to them, but I assume this occurs at the back of the order, rather than from an unused round.

Additionally, new picks are created through any remainder from the bidding process, so that a reasonable amount of currency is maintained from a bid match.

So new picks can be created on the night, but the rule with respect to the start of the draft is to limit everyone to available senior list spots, in order to prevent clubs from harvesting an entire round of picks to pay for elite prospects, which did occur for a short while in the original system.

This is a bit of a fallacy.

Clubs/AFL don’t update stats religiously. Harry McKay is our tallest player at 204cm, but site says 200cm. Reported often that Weitering is now 197/198cm. Many of the players on your list, particularly current ones are taller than reported. It is painful and non professional. There was an interview where Kemp confirmed 195cm after growth, but still reported shorter/draft height.

FWIW draft combine had Dean at 194cm and he is one of the youngest in the draft. Definitely more likely to finish 196cm than not.

And as always we focus on height alone.

Standing reach is a much more relevant measure.

This, and then factoring in how a given player's own torso/upper body, and effective stature factor in when and how they typically spoil, as well as their ability to consistently get into those contests.

Measurements and statistical data alone only go so far too, as plenty of players come in with shoulder issues.

But yeah fundamentally not every player at the same height has the same wingspan or general dimensions, and there's plenty of examples in this and other sports of players in certain roles being a little more anatomically specialised over time.

 

[ctwenty1]

Excuse Tigers supporter
I understand Carlton’s angst with giving up your draft picks, However, it does help WC and the tigers if your picks are chewed up by our early bids. It is no more than you’d want your recruiting team to do if our positions were reversed.

its all part of the game - thats why I would dean after the GC and Bne bids even if our mooted trades are done. Means those picks also come in

 

[Pablito]

Deal with Essendon gives us a 169 point surplus which will be more after a Uwland bid is matched.

North deal is a 500 point deficit this draft.

We may plan on trading the future second back in and getting something later this year and next in return.

 

[Bluebag13]

Weitering is gonna love playing with Dean. They are one in the same, quiet, get shit done, hate losing

 

[Bletch]

'Twas the night before Draftmas, when all through the land,
Not a poster was ranting (lest they be banned!);
The phantoms were posted, each pick with great care,
In hopes to predict which one will go where;
The children were nestled all snug in their beds;
While visions of Juddy danced in their heads;
And Ma in her Onesie, and I in me cap,
Had just settled our brains for a long evenin' nap,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter.

Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon through the clouds bore a silvery glow,
Gave a lustre of midday to objects below,
When what to my wondering eyes did appear,
But the bluebagger hovercraft - Micky Voss in the rear,
With a little man driving so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment he must be St. Nick.
He rapidly flipped through the stats and each game,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name:

"Now, FOS! or Draper! Is it Lalor or Jagga!
Or Smillie! or Harvey! Which one for a 'Bagger?
Then on to the next pick, let's find a great tall!
Then the twin Campos, and that will be all!"

A wink of his eye and a twist of his head
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And filled all the rankings; then turned with a jerk,
And laying his finger aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, from the spreadsheet he rose;
He sprang to his seat, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight—
“Happy Draftmas to all, and to all a good night!”

Happy Draftmas all! Couldn't be arsed to do a new verse, sorry, as it seems like we've peeked at our presents already this year.

To continue the analogy, I think Cal Twomey is the kid whose parents own the toy store in town. Then he rocks up on the last day of school and tells all his class-mates what they're getting for Draftmas.
"Hey West Coast, you're getting a Duursma and a Duff-Tytler! Hey, Richmond - Cumming and Robey for you! Port Adelaide - sucks to be you, your Mum hasn't even been in the shop!"

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Agresta seems nervous.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Sorry, washing my hair

I thought I was washing your hair?

 

[Blue and Silver]

I thought I was washing your hair?

Shhh! We said that was between us

 

[Jimmae]

Weitering is gonna love playing with Dean. They are one in the same, quiet, get shit done, hate losing

While I disagree with the overall assessment, I do like the sound of Weiterbot and Peterboy

Fight crimes by day and night, mostly committed by our midfield

 

[ctwenty1]

Agresta seems nervous.

talking up Ison waaaaayyyyy too much

 

[ctwenty1]

talking up Ison waaaaayyyyy too much

and now Cody fffssss

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Aphrodite]

AFL Draft explainer: Everything you need to know

Everything you need to know ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[CCurnow3picks]

and now Cody fffssss

He’s clearly incentivised by the membership team - two worlds collide!

 

[Pablito]

Also the bid won't come at 3 if Essendon can get up and grab the pick. Hopefully comes at 4 or 5.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Agresta confirming we want to take 3 picks.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

We have to take 3 don’t we? Is that not a rule?

 

[manang magoos]

Sorry, washing my hair

What about tomorrow night having your nails done

 

[Big Delut]

We have to take 3 don’t we? Is that not a rule?

3 including rookie promotions. We've already promoted HOK to the senior list so that's 1 done.

 

[Blue and Silver]

What about tomorrow night having your nails done

Wouldn't you like to know

 

[marcmurphy3]

Agresta confirming we want to take 3 picks.

He said it very decisively, then kind of contradicted himself by saying it depends who's there and we might look at trading for futures instead.

Seems like our preference is to pick but needs to be the right player.

But I'd be shocked if there is any move to trade Roos F2 back in. Talked about currency next year being a priority.