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2025 Ladder Predictions
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Maybe Chris was coaching?
1. GWS
2. Brisbane
3. Geelong
4. Collingwood
5. Fremantle
6. Hawthorn
7. Sydney
8. Port Adelaide
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Melbourne
11. Carlton
12. Adelaide
13. Gold Coast
14. Essendon
15. St.Kilda
16. North Melbourne
17. West Coast
18. Richmond
As with every recent year I struggle to gauge where the Dogs’ are at. Depends on buy-in to the coach because the talent is there. This year you can add Carlton to this as I was more confident last year. Might be the influence of their recent injury woes and a lot depends on how serious Curnow’s injury is.
GWS has the best list in the game. If they stay healthy I think they’ll be very hard to beat at home and do well away too.
Edit: probably should have waited til I watched a GWS pre season game and seeing them without Green they lack some grunt in the middle. Might be the best talent in the league line by line but I’ve likely overrated them.
2. Brisbane
3. Geelong
4. Collingwood
5. Fremantle
6. Hawthorn
7. Sydney
8. Port Adelaide
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Melbourne
11. Carlton
12. Adelaide
13. Gold Coast
14. Essendon
15. St.Kilda
16. North Melbourne
17. West Coast
18. Richmond
As with every recent year I struggle to gauge where the Dogs’ are at. Depends on buy-in to the coach because the talent is there. This year you can add Carlton to this as I was more confident last year. Might be the influence of their recent injury woes and a lot depends on how serious Curnow’s injury is.
GWS has the best list in the game. If they stay healthy I think they’ll be very hard to beat at home and do well away too.
Edit: probably should have waited til I watched a GWS pre season game and seeing them without Green they lack some grunt in the middle. Might be the best talent in the league line by line but I’ve likely overrated them.
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No Curnow no Carlton
Agree that GWS probably has the best list on paper but there’s something missing in their psyche I reckon
A rabid , mongrel supporter base , screaming for success and a long club history can’t be underestimated as a driving force
A very good , highly inspirational coach may be able to get them across the line though.
Pies getting back to 2023 type vibes
Look away Blues methinks you miss this year just will not work out well for you.
Alot of teams at crossroads as well kind of a fork in the road situation.
2025 year we see a changing of the guard.
Feels like a new era all over again.
Look away Blues methinks you miss this year just will not work out well for you.
Alot of teams at crossroads as well kind of a fork in the road situation.
2025 year we see a changing of the guard.
Feels like a new era all over again.
Hmmm. I missed the part where Freo had a top 4 list....
The only thing I know for certain is that Freo will finish 13th and Hawks 14th. Don't need to time travel to figure that one out but I did anyway and was proven correct. Congrats Geelong, and the curse continues for the swans.
I get why people want to hype the Hawks, but they're not that good yet.
Freo on the other hand... I don't get it. The most dour side and a pretty uninspiring list that somehow everyone thinks is all of a sudden primed. Nothing has changed except for bringing in the flakiest player in the comp.
I get why people want to hype the Hawks, but they're not that good yet.
Freo on the other hand... I don't get it. The most dour side and a pretty uninspiring list that somehow everyone thinks is all of a sudden primed. Nothing has changed except for bringing in the flakiest player in the comp.
It was top 4 till we lost our spine the last month of the season. Brisbane won the flag without a top 4 list too.
So then they'll have a top 4 coach and a bottom 4 list which might get them into the 8.
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Cripps and Bloods
That’s…..not how it works.
The list is the list. It's an average list filled with many uninspiring campaigners.
Nah, if you have the worst coach in the league your list is handicapped.
If it was irrelevant, the players wouldn't need coaches at all.
Longmuir to Sydney would send them straight out of finals.
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Cripps and Bloods
| W | L | D | % | ||
| 1. | Brisbane Lions | 19 | 4 | 0 | 124.4% |
| 2. | Geelong | 19 | 4 | 0 | 121.9% |
| 3. | GWS | 17 | 6 | 0 | 111.8% |
| 4. | Fremantle | 17 | 6 | 0 | 111.0% |
| 5. | Sydney | 17 | 6 | 0 | 110.4% |
| 6. | Western Bulldogs | 16 | 7 | 0 | 116.0% |
| 7. | Carlton | 16 | 7 | 0 | 112.0% |
| 8. | Port Adelaide | 15 | 8 | 0 | 107.6% |
| 9. | Hawthorn | 13 | 10 | 0 | 110.1% |
| 10. | Gold Coast | 11 | 12 | 0 | 99.9% |
| 11. | Adelaide | 9 | 14 | 0 | 97.8% |
| 12. | Collingwood | 8 | 15 | 0 | 99.5% |
| 13. | Essendon | 8 | 15 | 0 | 91.7% |
| 14. | Melbourne | 7 | 16 | 0 | 94.4% |
| 15. | West Coast | 6 | 17 | 0 | 87.5% |
| 16. | St Kilda | 5 | 18 | 0 | 92.6% |
| 17. | North Melbourne | 3 | 20 | 0 | 69.2% |
| 18. | Richmond | 1 | 22 | 0 | 67.1% |
QF2: GEELONG v GWS
EF1: SYDNEY v Port Adelaide
EF2: Western Bulldogs v CARLTON
SF1: FREMANTLE v Sydney
SF2: GWS v Carlton
PF1: Brisbane Lions v GWS
PF2: GEELONG v Fremantle
GF: GWS v Geelong
Go Orange Team
1 of the top 4 generally come from the bottom 10 every year. Last year it was Geelong. 2023 was Port. 2022 was Collingwood but nearly Freo before Carlton crapped the bed.
Who is it going to be this year?
Favourites would be
Freo
Pies
Longer shots
GC
Melbourne
Adelaide
Even longer
Saints
Essendon
No chance
WC
North
Richmond
So reporters take their pick and then predict them to have a break out season. I think they also just look at the list changes and try and see who will improve. Freo adding Bolton is a net positive after losing significant players every season since 2017.
All this means nothing once the season starts.
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How dumb are coaches? Can't believe nobody else has ever come up with the idea of not missing when kicking for goal.
Not buying what you're selling. Those previous years were all individual scenarios, just so happened to happen a few years in a row. The chance of it happening again is much the same as it not happening at all. A top 4 team doesn't have to come from the bottom 10, nor will it. Just like WC are not guaranteed to with a premiership in the next 5 years just because they have a record of winning one each decade.
And I also don't think it's fair to compare the current bottom 10 with your sample of 3 of the stronger sides of the last decade. Well run and managed clubs who maintained strong lists.
I'll entertain your tier list anyway. No chance Freo are favorites. Put Freo down with GC and Adelaide. Pies are on their own so they go into the 8 since Hawthorn will probably drop out.
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I'm selling logic & history.
2021 - Melbourne (GF winners)
2020 - Port
2019 - Brisbane
2018 - Pies & Hawks
2017 - Richmond (GF winners)
2016 - Geelong & GWS
2015 - WC
So it's happened every year for the past 10 seasons, sometimes twice. Therefore it is more likely to happen than not.
Pies are the oldest team in the History of the competition, I don't like their chances when injuries start. I also feel like they will be declining rather than improving and their luck ran out last season.
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You're mixing possibility with probability. It's highly possible, but probability does not exist in footy ever, it ain't a mathematical equation - every year for every team is a singularity. A team can win 100 gf's in a row, yet theyre still no more or less likely to win it the next season.
If you trust history so much then crunch the numbers of the exact position the above teams finished in the previous season to determine your favorites tier list for this season, instead of just automatically putting Freo top.
Now I don't for a second believe the exact ladder position would make a difference, just as much as the pattern itself having any substantial merit. But if that's what your basing it on, then crunch it right down and find out exactly who is most probable to make it into the 4
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It's when the opposite happens that you find yourself in real trouble.
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NEVER TRUST A FART.
A team will never win 100 GF’s in the row due to our highly flawed equalisation system. Chances are not equal for each of the 18 teams every year as it’s not a coin flip.
There are too many factors in footy to know what causes this phenomenon but long repeating patterns can’t be ignored till factors change and it stops occurring.
Putting Freo & the Pies up there as the most likely is just following some of those factors and the odds reflect this.
