List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[Remboy]

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Yeh, really looks like the club thinks he is going sarcastic tone

Looks like we've upped our offer to include one of Brad Hill's kids if he stays.

 

[All Holmes]

Contract was never mentioned

What on earth do you think the battle is in relation to re Nas?

 

[Minga]

No one player is the answer.

Keen for Nas to stay.

Keen to see our team with TDK in it, will be rejuvenated, sometimes players just need a change and regardless he was very influential first half of this season.

Keen for King and Phillipou to come back, the og messiahs of the current build.

Keen for Wilson and travalgia to work their way back into the side.

Many other young players I could hype up and be optimistic about, point being, there is a reason to be excited by the list, and what we can do at the draft and trade table this off season to bolster it further.

 

[jwikked]

What on earth do you think the battle is in relation to re Nas?

To get better and more consistent. What was Ross talking about before that line?

 

[MightySaint]

Battle on our hands was in relation to keeping Nas imo. Ross said it unprompted which says a lot....

 

[Murraj1966]

I can’t stand the constant back and forth

He just needs to rip off the bandaid one way or another

 

[Diehard Saint]

Thats right. Clubs will come for Heath and Marshall

Heard on the radio that Dees are keen on Heath.
I like him. Looks like a good, built kid.
And actually directs his taps and kick goals.
How many ruckmen can you carry on a list. He’s going to want to play regularly. Be a shame to see him go after the years we’ve put into him.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Which is why the Marshall to Geelong talks are going on.

Heath and Keeler both progressing as KPF options that could fill a gap if needed while Dodson is the long term unicorn that will take over in the future.

RoMa becomes the awkward depth/rotation option so the obvious thing to do would be to trade him to a contender while he's got value.

Geelong - The obvious choice
Brisbane - If the Sam Draper talk is legit why not talk to RoMa?
Adelaide - Although I rate ROB for them there's always been talk that they want someone that can rotate with Thilthorpe.

All could have some interest.

You know this?
Or just supposition.
I’d be interested if I were Marshall.
Cats will still be in it for a flag next year and I’m not sure I he’ll be around for when we are hopefully challenging.
Doubt we can pull out of a TDK deal now - probably been courting him for well over a year.

 

[topbillings]

What a crock of shit.

“It’s good for him, it’s good for his family… we’ve got a real battle on our hands”

Not about general development bs but about contract.

Then next question on love for Nasiah

“Hopefully he has a heart” meaning hopefully it IS something that helps sway him.

Nas is already gone. Can bitch and moan but it’s actually about what Ross does with the team next year. He’ll find a way I’m sure.

On the "battle on our hands" - perhaps you're right that it's about the fight to keep him. But if you're going to analyse every word out of Ross' mouth so closely, what do you make of him saying we're trying to develop a player for the next 8 years? Are we developing him for Port Adelaide?

As for the "hopefully he has a heart" - the man was joking. He had literally just said "I don't have a heart, so it wouldn't work on me" and was smiling and laughing through the whole answer. The truth is, fans holding up signs isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. Ross knows that.

I would really caution against taking anything Ross Lyon says too seriously. Nas might leave, but reading between the lines of Ross' press conference word salad is riddiculous. Especially grumpy Ross.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

I thought all this talk about Tex was for our VFL team, not the main list. Then I read somewhere he may be offered a training spot over summer to try to prove his case for a list spot so who knows.

Looks like it’s for a list spot on the main list.

 

[billings2paddy]

Have we not thrown this money at every mid available or contemplating a move in the league at this point?

So we throw that money at an area of the ground that isn't a concern?
TDK looks behind Heath and Dodson off his performances at this stage
Why invest a disproportionately large amount of our salary cap on a player and an area that we don't need?
We missed those players because of our irrelevancy.
We keep NAS we are relevant again and those elite players will come.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

So we throw that money at an area of the ground that isn't a concern?
TDK looks behind Heath and Dodson off his performances at this stage
Why invest a disproportionately large amount of our salary cap on a player and an area that we don't need?
We missed those players because of our irrelevancy.
We keep NAS we are relevant again and those elite players will come.

To suggest TDK is behind those two is utterly laughable.

 

[littlecreatures]

Marshall asking for a trade would be helpful for us. Because Moose deserves a sustained crack at playing AFL & that won’t happen for us with
TDK & Marshall.

IMO, we’re at a stage now where we’ve cut the list so hard that I think we need list stability and there’s more benefits from keeping both Steele and Ro than if we were to lose them for twisty packets.

Also need to consider the impact on the playing group in terms of more instability and what that may mean for them.

 

[Thirsty_NeedBeer]

I'm just going to leave this here

Bro’s working from the inside. The JHF trade makes much more sense now.

 

[billings2paddy]

To suggest TDK is behind those two is utterly laughable.

To pay TDK 1.8 million for 7 years is laughable based off his performance
It hamstrings our ability to attract high end players effectively for the duration of his contract.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

To pay TDK 1.8 million for 7 years is laughable based off his performance
It hamstrings our ability to attract high end players effectively for the duration of his contract.

Not what was said. The money is a different discussion to what you just said lol

 

[jimmytigs]

all the way with TDK,if he is already signed just suck it up and get behind him,if he isnt let the club work it out,im sure someone making the decisions is keeping one eye on carlton games

not even a consideration to back off from him now if its a done deal,catastrophic stupidity,so cant see any sense in harping on about it

 

[Sir Owens]

Nas is 1000% gone. His interview on the ground was a train wreck, and then Ross basically said we know you're going, hurry up and tell us.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

That quote from NAZ is is good for another 50 or so pages

Im sure we can get this thread to part 3 by years end

 

[Diehard Saint]

GONE

STAYING

Make up your mind, liking both posts ScrappyDo ….
You’re showing you bi-polarity in consecutive posts!

 

[Mr Platinum]

Im sure we can get this thread to part 3 by years end

Our biggest problem is the Nas’ mum wants him home in Adelaide, let’s hope he grows a set and signs up otherwise we cash in BIG TIME like we did with Plugger. It’s not all doom and gloom, we need talent everywhere.
Remember Gazza senior never won a flag and he was twice the player as Nas.

 

[BrutThough]

Nas is 1000% gone. His interview on the ground was a train wreck, and then Ross basically said we know you're going, hurry up and tell us.

A train wreck?

Got to be kidding with that one. What is achieved by being overly dramatic about every little thing?

 

[BrutThough]

Seems strange to do it the day before a game? Don't clubs normally fly the day before?

Last round hasn't been set yet but it confirms we are looking at a Sunday game

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Moose looks pretty good though.

Most definitely have exceeded my expectations in the seniors. Begs the question why Max was given a go early, especially with Sharman and Owens lacking support with height in the forward line.

 

[billings2paddy]

Not what was said. The money is a different discussion to what you just said lol

Based off performances
TDK 1.8 mill
That is crazy talk
Heath looks OK
Dodson can football
Paying an average player in the top 5% of the comp isn't a good list management decision
Carlton win this by a mile