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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

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Had a weird dream last night. Dragons were chasing me and I was running towards a cave. Problem was the cave entrance was covered by a large rock. I couldn't budge it. Just as the dragon's flames were getting closer a genie appeared and said I must know the magic words to make the stone roll enough to let me through. I didn't know what they were so I sat and accepted my fate. Just then, the ghost of my dead Grandmother appeared (bless her) I said "Granny!!!! do you know the magic words?" "I do little sully ya cheeky bugger (she always thought I was a cheeky bugger)... repeat after me....Ben Williams is a complete and utter f*ckwit"
The cave was really nice once I got inside
Thanks Gran

Cool story but, needed the corpse of a knight that had an open helmet and when you looked down it was tricky Nixons career in ashes. That way when you have the injection of Ben at the court there's a foreboading for that dragon hunt.

Your dream needs work.
 
Good post re the victim mentality. And agree with you re Geelong being a damn well managed club. The evidence is there to see as you have outlined. However, it's not exactly a level playing field. They have their own recently completed, upgraded 40,000 + stadium. It's a fortress when you look at their record there. Must be 95% plus pro them crowd when they play at home and I have no idea of the actual numbers but would be very surprised if the financials on their home games aren't off the charts compared to our home games at Marvel - 11 or 12 times every season. But yep their management, stability and player development is best in the comp.
They used the times (political) that were unique across the country in their area. Good management getting the politicians on the hook but the luck of having Corrangamite as a marginal seat in an era of 2 tight federal elections where money was being thrown at will kissed them on the...oh and having a couple of Premier's as supporters as well. Good on em but they got built a stadium, we got built the changing sheds.
 
Worst part of Geelong stadium is the phone services is non-existent during the game.

Funnily enough, it worked perfectly until the teams ran through the banners and as soon as the siren went. But during the game, nothing.
 
Surely Big Brother Benjamin has quaffed down his smashed avo and pie floater and is now heading to RSEA Park for the announcement 😬
 
Yes, but you dont finish top 4, and win multiple flags by winning a handful of games at Kardinia. in fact theyve been forced to play finals at the G, and still won (albeit they do complain, but its justified)

Whatever they have been doing since coming out of the 90s with SFA to show for having the GOAT, as worked.

We were on par with them in the earl 2000s,both young, full of talent success starved and primed

We went in opposite directions and the time for excuses is well and truly over.

I would kill to get a spot within the club to see what the hell is going on.
Yeah I agree that they've been very well managed. And......as another poster has posted......$340 mill in taxpayer funds for their stadium. That's fairly handy. They've had a leg up as well.
 

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Having had ties to the Cats through family connections for decades, I can say that Geelong had always had strong leadership and values from the top, no tail wagging the dog, no star player bigger than the club, and the coaching driven hard from the top. Sadly for the Saints, it's mostly the opposite, hence lack of success.

Although we hear Lyon giving it back to the media at pressers, it's mostly spin from a bloke who does it well, and is covering up the fact that we have gone backwards in three seasons, and it all falls at the feet of those running the club and their poor decisions..many short-term, quick-fix.

Top players don't grow on trees, and like business, sometimes you have to pay big money to get the right people to grow your business, so throwing money at TDK, Reid is an investment in getting this club into finals. You make your own luck.
Bollocks......
 
Good post re the victim mentality. And agree with you re Geelong being a damn well managed club. The evidence is there to see as you have outlined. However, it's not exactly a level playing field. They have their own recently completed, upgraded 40,000 + stadium. It's a fortress when you look at their record there. Must be 95% plus pro them crowd when they play at home and I have no idea of the actual numbers but would be very surprised if the financials on their home games aren't off the charts compared to our home games at Marvel - 11 or 12 times every season. But yep their management, stability and player development is best in the comp.
Geelong have had over a quarter of a BILLION in state government funding to develop their home ground. And more from the AFL. Just as an aside.

Edit: okay I’m later on this one. Thanks Sandra.
 

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Surely Big Brother Benjamin has quaffed down his smashed avo and pie floater and is now heading to RSEA Park for the announcement 😬
Bet he pulls a Rob Oakeshott and makes a 45 minute speech making it all about him.
 
Victim mentality on show

Who cares about the ground? They were wining well before than, kept winning while it was built and won after.

What every happened to anyone, anytime, anywhere?

Nothing, but if we're quoting Ross, let's let the cobblers doing the cobbling. I'll cop the criticism of Ross and nepo babies and all that, but our administration have every right, and a duty, to call it out when we get the spiky end of the pineapple.

You want St Kilda to know our place. Plenty of people who think the same will be at the game tonight wearing red and black but not white.

All strength to the club to call out every decision by the AFL or other stakeholders that put us at a disadvantage, such as Geelong's licence to print cash stadium that you and I and every other taxpayer paid for.
 
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