List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Yawkey way]

I think them being pleased with chasing a player that will not be traded under any circumstances is baffling.

"Yeh the saints are thrilled to be chasing Harley Reid in spite of him being contracted and West Coast demanding NAS, King and TDK in a trade package".

Sounds like eutopian thinking.

I dont hate it but rotating backmen through the ruck is really hard structurally.

He’s not going anywhere near the ruck.

 

[Joffaboy]

That person is why a bag of mixed nuts comes with the warning that it may contain nuts

That is funny on so many levels

 

[Diehard Saint]

PERSONALLY I’d let Roma go for a second rounder. We don’t have one, we need some points for Fincher and ultimately IN MY OPINION Roma has zero value in our team outside a backup and if TDK needs a spell then I’d rather be getting games into Dodson and Keeler anyway.

Noting the above I don’t think the club would accept anything short of Geelongs first and that’s also absolutely fine, I’d back them to make the right call.

If Roma wants out then IN MY OPINION we should let him go, it’s shitty practice to keep him playing twos while his $1.4-$1.7 replacement is playing (and no I don’t think Roma can play as a CHF or FF)

If he wants to stay and the club thinks he can do the hybrid role then by all means give it a crack.

Let’s remember, however, that Roma has been paid the lions share of his contract front loaded, so not that I’m saying he would, but if it came to the point he wasn’t our number 1 ruck, then so be it.

Another reason why Cats should have to pay up big time for him.

 

[NextYearPlease]

The 2026 out of contract list is thin from what I can see.

Caminiti, Sharman, both Cat B Irish boys, Butler, Dodson, Howard, Keeler, Said, Stocker, Wilson and now Dow. Be a few in there that are feeling the pressure to have a big off-season and fight for their list spot.

I wouldn't call 12 players, more than a quarter of our list, "thin".

 

[BrutThough]

Sam McClure via The Tradies podcast - Windy going to stay. Was out the door to North a few weeks ago but Ross has won him back.

Mitch Cleary disagrees and believes he hasn't made up his mind but if he leaves, it will be Melbourne.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Sam McClure via The Tradies podcast - Windy going to stay. Was out the door to North a few weeks ago but Ross has won him back.

Mitch Cleary disagrees and believes he hasn't made up his mind but if he leaves, it will be Melbourne.

Rince and repeat media BS. Ross has won Windy back my arse. Sos has upped the offer a bit and Windy's manager has less leverage now. Job done.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Sam McClure via The Tradies podcast - Windy going to stay. Was out the door to North a few weeks ago but Ross has won him back.

Mitch Cleary disagrees and believes he hasn't made up his mind but if he leaves, it will be Melbourne.

 

[sauce_head]

'Wilkie, we arent trading you'

There, it's done.

And if we are going all out to convince NAS To stay in two years (remember those conversations from what feels like 20 years ago?), then Wilkie will be required to assist in that.

 

[sauce_head]

TDK was the second-best ruckman in the competition and 17th best player in the AFL in the first eight rounds.

People don’t want to hear that.

 

[sauce_head]

100%. I'd never advocate for letting Wilkie go. He's absolutely elite and irreplaceable. Just wish we'd knock it on the head and get something mutually beneficial signed.

Thats a problem to have solved in two years.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Well I say hold Ro and Wilkie for at least next year and see how it all goes.
Unless of course we need their trade value and sc for a really big banana.

 

[Mat Mann]

they are introducing the last touch rule next season.

Which will Limit boundary throw ins.

it won't really, modelling I saw shows an extra 2 free's a game over what we currently have

 

[stavro#4]

'Wilkie, we arent trading you'

There, it's done.

 

[Ads734]

I can’t see a work where we trade both Steele and Ro one or the other imo.

 

[stavro#4]

Sam McClure via The Tradies podcast - Windy going to stay. Was out the door to North a few weeks ago but Ross has won him back.

Mitch Cleary disagrees and believes he hasn't made up his mind but if he leaves, it will be Melbourne.

Also Mitch Cleary another source that says that Marshall AND Steele’s deals have effectively been paid up. Not alot left the next 2 years.

 

[marcus1232]

Also Mitch Cleary another source that says that Marshall AND Steele’s deals have effectively been paid up. Not alot left the next 2 years.

Which means we have 0 reason to trade them unless we get deals that are worth it

 

[boulders]

From what I've heard, Steele to West Coast has been discussed as a possibility.

 

[StCicatriz]

If its 1.5m a season. You can't begrudge Wilkie looking at leaving.

Id be open to it but we'd need something coming back that matches that offer.

1 x top 5 pick and a very good player or another top 10 pick.

 

[StCicatriz]

Also Mitch Cleary another source that says that Marshall AND Steele’s deals have effectively been paid up. Not alot left the next 2 years.

So its the beams issue all over again. Theyre trying to get paid again.

Which means their trade cost has just gone up.

 

[SainterinSydney]

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This is the epitome of the Dumb and Dumber meme

 

[jwikked]

If its 1.5m a season. You can't begrudge Wilkie looking at leaving.

Of course you can. You sign a contract for X amount of years at $X, and you expect the club to honour that contract if you're injured.

Players have the right to request a trade, but in no world should they expect to receive one.

Perhaps Wilkie should put himself on single year deals moving forward.

 

[Remboy]

Of course you can. You sign a contract for X amount of years at $X, and you expect the club to honour that contract if you're injured.

Players have the right to request a trade, but in no world should they expect to receive one.

Perhaps Wilkie should put himself on single year deals moving forward.

He might ask for tye first six months to be front ended then ask to go in the mid season draft.

 

[Remboy]

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Does he have to deny that he’s leaving every week?

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Trade Ins:

1. Aleer
2. Jsos
3. A really good Mystery mid- use pick 7
4. Ryan
5. TDK

Draft:

1. Codey Curtin WA, with 3rd round pick for Heath
2. Fincher-match bid

Rookie:

1. Voss
2. Wanganeen

Off List:

1. Boyd
2. Byrnes
3. Carroll
4. Cordy
5. Heath- trade to Melbourne for a 3rd round pick
6. Jones
7. McLennan
8. Schoey- playing for Tassie Vfl
9. Webster- playing/captain for Tassie Vfl

 

[stavro#4]

From what I've heard, Steele to West Coast has been discussed as a possibility.

Yeah for the compo pick.