List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[mighty_sainters]

Took the girlfriend out for lunch today. Offered her that KFC deal... said 5 each... woohoo

She wouldn't go for it

High maintanenece chicks man

I guess it was for her birthday but still.

What’s her instagram handle so I know to stay clear and avoid?

 

[SainterinSydney]

This is great: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1YJ2MnKYzi/

 

[CatsDan]

Hello! I come in peace , wanted to say Row Marshall is an unbelievable player and feel very lucky his picked us as his home. Seems like a great and humble guy too, will be lucky to have him at our club.

 

[jwikked]

Hello! I come in peace , wanted to say Row Marshall is an unbelievable player and feel very lucky his picked us as his home. Seems like a great and humble guy too, will be lucky to have him at our club.

I said the same when I saw a lovely Ferrari driving by. Turns out I couldn't afford it, neither can your team.
You can look all you want, put a poster on the wall.

At the end of the day, even if that Ferrari wants to spend time in my car hole, it's not gonna happen.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Hello! I come in peace , wanted to say Row Marshall is an unbelievable player and feel very lucky his picked us as his home. Seems like a great and humble guy too, will be lucky to have him at our club.

Luck depends on one thing:

 

[MightySaintas]

Hello! I come in peace , wanted to say Row Marshall is an unbelievable player and feel very lucky his picked us as his home. Seems like a great and humble guy too, will be lucky to have him at our club.

You have to pay for him clown

 

[austinnn]

The amount of restraint they've shown is commendable. They had a plan and they stuck to it. Personally, even if it doesn't work out, it shows that we're well run and I'm happier about that more than anything else.

We need to take care thst SOS and Gubby aren't poached

 

[beside the seaside]

What do people think the clubs plans will be for match day? Assuming Ro key forward and a bit of ruck duties was the plan… does it mean Keeler plays in that role, or we just go in with 1 ruck?

Keeler, Caminiti and Dodson probably fighting for that spot.

 

[Rick the Dog]

Bains is weak and shafted Chris Grant because Grant disagreed withn Beveridge.
Beveridge is way more powerful at that club than Lyon will ever be at the Saints.
The Wilkie debacle was completely instigated by Beveridge who ran roughshod over Power.
When it wrnt belly up as Power said it would, don't be surprised if he gets blamed.

Interested to know where you get your information. You obviously have excellent sources!

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Every team has a no.1 ruck.

Then most of the no.2's are able deputies that are not good enough to be no.1's.

If they become good enough to be a no.1, they leave or take the no.1 spot and force the former no.1 to leave.

Point is that we don't have the deepest ruck stocks in the league, but that's because the coaching staff clearly rate Dodson.

We have enough options to get by if TDK gets injured - and we certainly don't need to waste any capital either in picks or salary to bring in a ruck.

TDK is our long-term no.1 and Dodson will become a capable no.2 quite quickly it seems. Then we only need warm bodies in case of a disaster because no one has a no.3 ruckman that is any good.

Still think you need to consider the King thing? for now.
Marshall as cover
And let the other boys develop fully until Marshall is out of contract in two years only.

 

[SainterinSydney]

My gut feeling is Marshall stays

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

If we are giving up 7 for Flanders will we be getting anything back in that deal? If we have a couple of late firsts maybe we can package them up to move up.

I think we accept that 7 is around the mark and just get it done. If we finished a bit lower and had say pick 5 it might be awkward but with the Allen compo and Lions academy it's already at 9. Might be 10+ come draft night.

 

[Therealsaint]

My gut feeling is Marshall stays

Not a chance……..more chance that west coast makes the 8 next year than Marshall staying

 

[austinnn]

ive heard he was set on us for a while, king threw abit of a spanner in the works but there was no chance of Essendon getting him they made two desperate efforts to get him throwing huge coin at him I think the first offer was 1 mil a year over 5 years then the last ditch effort was 1.3 over 7

Out of all the totally outlandish things that have happened in our off-season, perhaps the most unbelievable is Choomah becoming an ITK.

Between that and Ollie Geale transforming himself into the Rasputin of St Kilda, I don’t know which way is up any more.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Agree. To me he should be worth 2 Geelong 1sts given they will be good next year so 2 picks around 20. but Rowan has nominated them after we recruited someone to his position. I think there will be some level of goodwill to Ro for his time at the club (just hopefully not too much). Same deal for Steele.

Goodwill?
To an opponent in the window? Why on earth?
I certainly hope not. And I reckon SOS would agree.

 

[austinnn]

Moyle or Humphrey?

Moyle please

 

[SaintlyHymns]

Ainsworth is fine but I honestly think we have a much better player in that role with Hall. More possessions, more damage, higher SI's and GA's. Ainsworth looks a nice player but after 10 years hasn't been hugely convincing.

I don't know why but I'm absolute chips in on Flyin Ryan. Was a focal point on nearly the worst historical team in history. If he stays healthy and we move the footy faster I think he could be such a weapon for us. 30+ goals for the year.

 

[OxSaint]

What do people think the clubs plans will be for match day? Assuming Ro key forward and a bit of ruck duties was the plan… does it mean Keeler plays in that role, or we just go in with 1 ruck?

If Keeler and Dodson didn’t show the upside I don’t think we even entertain the Ro Trade. Add the fact of landing Silvagni which will give us flexibility to use either him or Hammer there as well. I don’t think we lose much playing these guys next to King instead of Ro.

If they take away the wrestling at ball ups than Keeler will have a massive opportunity to make the role his own.

 

[SaintlyHymns]

Goodwill?
To an opponent in the window?
I certainly hope not. And I reckon SOS would agree.

Was it Ross who said 'we're not in the business of making strong opponents better'?

Can't afford goodwill in this comp. Especially to a grand finalist who we play twice every year

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I think we accept that 7 is around the mark and just get it done. If we finished a bit lower and had say pick 5 it might be awkward but with the Allen compo and Lions academy it's already at 9. Might be 10+ come draft night.

Is 12, some media? fellas reckon

 

[heynow85]

Was it Ross who said 'we're not in the business of making strong opponents better'?

Can't afford goodwill in this comp. Especially to a grand finalist who we play twice every year

Hard to come back from that without him either staying or getting something solid back in return

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Keeler, Caminiti and Dodson probably fighting for that spot.

I think the 3 of them will really show their promising potential in two years time (2028)

 

[Diehard Saint]

Hello! I come in peace , wanted to say Row Marshall is an unbelievable player and feel very lucky his picked us as his home. Seems like a great and humble guy too, will be lucky to have him at our club.

Not unless you satisfy SOS, you won’t.
Nice words though

 

[SaintlyHymns]

Hard to come back from that without him either staying or getting something solid back in return

That's the beauty of having a player under contract and the most arrogant list management team in the comp (in a good way). Deal doesn't get done unless we're satisfied.

 

[Joffaboy]

Interested to know where you get your information. You obviously have excellent sources!

No I make everything up.