List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Gavstar]

For them to keep upping, we either have upped or he really doesn’t want to go there….

Negotiating against yourself, genius move by the Saints!

 

[jj1978]

Negotiating against yourself, genius move by the Saints!

It is StKilda, the land of dwarves and schoolgirls

 

[Aphrodite]

For them to keep upping, we either have upped or he really doesn’t want to go there….

Apart from the $$$$$$$, why would anyone want to go to that irrelevant Rabble of a Club & play in front of Norf/Bulldogs type crowds.

 

[Bluebag13]

For them to keep upping, we either have upped or he really doesn’t want to go there….

Or another club is having a go

 

[Gointocarlton]

Saints now offering TDK 8 years at $1.8M on Ch7 Sports news bulletin in Slowbart

If TDK holds out until the very last minute, those imbeciles might well end up giving him 20 years and 4.5M a season.
Do it Tommy, ask for more.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Not saying Cincotta should go, but who are the 10 out of contract players you think we should delist before him?

Contracted or not.
Fogarty
Evans
Acres
Docherty
Mcgovern
Fantasia
Monahan
Duffy
Boyd
Durdin

Not saying Cincotta should go, but who are the 10 out of contract players you think we should delist before him?

 

[Aphrodite]

Contracted or not.
Fogarty
Evans
Acres
Docherty
Mcgovern
Fantasia
Monahan
Duffy
Boyd
Durdin

Doc has retired!

 

[Benaly28]

If Jack leaves will he trigger band 1 compo? If he does, are we more comfortable with him going?

Earlier in the year he was playing great footy and thought we can’t afford to lose him however now that Ofarell and Cowan have come along I’m not as fussed if he goes also he gets injured quite often.Hold our offer if he goes so be it.

 

[Benaly28]

If TDK holds out until the very last minute, those imbeciles might well end up giving him 20 years and 4.5M a season.
Do it Tommy, ask for more.

I’d be offering NAS that money God help them if they lose him.

Also Marshall won’t be there should TDK land there.

 

[Beyond Blue]

110%, mental pygmies most of them. You just cannot trust them at all, look a million bucks when it’s going their way and fold like deck chairs when it’s not.

Need to investigate moving a couple on for fair value, I hope Wright is allowed to do what I feel he wants to do where he has no emotional attachment to any of them.

I agree and to me this is a far more plausible explanation to our demise than that of the players and coaches suddenly going from being aligned to fractured over the course of the second half of the Richmond game in round one.

I think the players cannot handle pressure. When the acid comes mid match regardless of the opposition they go to water. Every opposition team knows it as do our players IMO. I reckon you can tell when it starts happening mid game coz it’s like a domino effect:
- Cripps starts trying to take the opposition on by himself, instead of handballing to a free teammate in a better position
- Walsh starts demanding the handball even when he is about to get tackled only to end under having to dump kick under pressure
- Weitering starts slowing the play of the ball to walking pace
- the peripheral players miss a couple of passes and drop their heads
- defenders jumping into opponents inside d50 and giving away completely needless frees and goals
- Charlie and Harry both start getting very indecisive and can’t work out whether to shoot for goal or pass

Unfortunately this is exacerbated by the main guys have a lot of power and sway at the club. The Teague experience was mortifying. Cripps openly lobbied for him to get the job, then when the review came he rolled over on Teague quicker than a cheap hooker. I think this has been a problem for a long time. Judd was the messiah. Gibbs got put in the leadership group before he’d played a game. The board overrode a 2 x premiership coaches choice for club captain.

This doesn’t happen at other clubs. The coach is given more control. Imagine if a player started whinging to his mates, family, manager or the media about coaching tactics under Clarko, Lyon, Dimma, Chris Scott or Horse. They’d be gone. We’ve sacked coaches almost every three years for the last 2 decades. If I was Wright I’d be sending at least one of the “big stars” packing. Send a message. The adults are in charge now.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Doc has retired!

Doc is part of the 10 list deletions before Cincotta...anyway cinc might be re-rookied

 

[Wickzki]

He’s not very good at maths though.
He said closer to 700, but then said the contract was 2.5m (which is 625k per year).

So who knows which figure is correct?

I’m inclined to believe Jake Niall’s article “near enough to $600,000”.

What I think you'll end up finding is all of their numbers are close to the mark.

Niall is reporting the base salary of which there will be incentives that gets him up to the numbers other are reporting.

Collingwood's base is probably close to the max he can get from us and probably has incentives of it's own.

Whatever the case Petroro has leaked numbers previously to Niall.

 

[azlou]

Too my eye, he needs to just slow it all down a fraction. I think he rushes everything he does and either falls over, fluffs the disposal, runs into trouble, or fumbles. He gets to the right spots and creates opportunities, just lacks a bit of composure and I feel like if it slowed down just that little bit, composure will come along with better outcomes for him.

Slow is smooth smooth is fast

 

[jj1978]

Apart from the $$$$$$$, why would anyone want to go to that irrelevant Rabble of a Club & play in front of Norf/Bulldogs type crowds.

Insomniacs. A chat with Ross over the phone every night, 8 hours of z’s guaranteed.

 

[katmanblue]

$18,253,000 shared amongst 40 players is $455,000 per player. Being the 10-12 players are either rookies or first year or second year players. Minimum pay for these players is $150,000. So 25% of our list is likely on $200-300,000. So the average senior player is on around $530,000. It’s not a stretch to put him on $750,000 for 4-5 years.

If we have 6 players on roughly 1M each, that brings the average for the rest down markedly.

Then, we'd have 12 M for players 38 players. Even paying 180k for 15 players leaves around 9M for 20 (ish) players.

 

[katmanblue]

Looks obvious when you show that info. Nice work.

Martin unfortunate. Goal kicking mid and best small forward gone absolutely made a difference. Absence of Lij further compounded scoring woes.

Cottrell was our best kicks going inside 50 before he was injured.

 

[chuncey]

Fortunately for Owies, Bigfooty is hardly a reputable source.

1 kick 2 handballs suggests he’s struggling.

 

[Lace_Out]

Seeing how quickly the GC have come on makes me hopeful we might turn things quickly- with the right people in place.

They have a better list, far more skillful players.

 

[myblueroan]

They have a better list, far more skillful players.

And how long have they had them?

 

[ferrisb]

No one complained about Motlop when he was kicking important goals in the SF in 2023.

The ability is there. It's all in the head.

He's not clean enough.

Fumbles or second grabs far too often IMHO.

That's a non-negotiable for his position.

 

[ferrisb]

Zac Williams is the only 'small' forward I trust to consistently make the most of his opportunities near goal.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Zac Williams is the only 'small' forward I trust to consistently make the most of his opportunities near goal.

I like White too but he's still very raw

 

[Accidental genius]

I like White too but he's still very raw

Agreed. Apart from zac he looks tge most likely to be a consistent reliable small forward. He’s quickish too which helps.

 

[AussieTractor]

Agreed. Apart from zac he looks tge most likely to be a consistent reliable small forward. He’s quickish too which helps.

And left footed to provide a POD

 

[Accidental genius]

And left footed to provide a POD

Play him on the right side flanks in f50. Swinging around on to his left will suit him.