2025 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[Progressive Aggresion]

My AA 44 man squad after round 5:

ADE - I. Rankine - R. Thilthorpe - D. Fogarty - T. Walker

BRI - W. Ashcroft - H. McCluggage - D. Zorko

CAR - J. Weitering

COL - N. Daicos - J. Daicos - D. Cameron

ESS - Z. Merrett

FRE - C. Serong - J. Treacy

GEL - Z. Guthrie - M. Holmes - B. Smith - P. Dangerfield

GCS - M. Rowell - N. Anderson - B. King - S. Collins - J. Witts

GWS - L. Ash - S. Taylor - L. Whitfield - T. Greene

HAW - J. Sicily - J. Newcombe

MEL - n/a

NOR - T. Xerri - N. Larkey - L. Davies-Uniacke

POR - A. Aliir - M. Georgiades - J. Horne-Francis

RIC - n/a

STK - N. Wanganeen-Milera - J. Sinclair - J. Higgins - J. Macrae - C. Wilkie

SYD - C. Warner

WCE - n/a

WBD - T. Liberatore - S. Darcy - E. Richards

 

[LukeParkerno1]

My AA 44 man squad after round 5:

SYD - C. Warner

On what planet is Chad near this list? One (maybe 2 if you are very generous) good game in 5, dead set stat padded last week, he wasn't our worst but if there's anyone from our side, it has to be Heeney, not that I think any are near the side on form.

 

[beerbandit]

Higgins is ahead of Long

Nah, Ned Long gets in

 

[bungalow_bill]

If JHF can keep up the form from last night he is a certainty. That's a big if though.

 

[LOLchie Schultz]

My AA 44 man squad after round 5:

ADE - I. Rankine - R. Thilthorpe - D. Fogarty - T. Walker

BRI - W. Ashcroft - H. McCluggage - D. Zorko

CAR - J. Weitering

COL - N. Daicos - J. Daicos - D. Cameron

ESS - Z. Merrett

FRE - C. Serong - J. Treacy

GEL - Z. Guthrie - M. Holmes - B. Smith - P. Dangerfield

GCS - M. Rowell - N. Anderson - B. King - S. Collins - J. Witts

GWS - L. Ash - S. Taylor - L. Whitfield - T. Greene

HAW - J. Sicily - J. Newcombe

MEL - n/a

NOR - T. Xerri - N. Larkey - L. Davies-Uniacke

POR - A. Aliir - M. Georgiades - J. Horne-Francis

RIC - n/a

STK - N. Wanganeen-Milera - J. Sinclair - J. Higgins - J. Macrae - C. Wilkie

SYD - C. Warner

WCE - n/a

WBD - T. Liberatore - S. Darcy - E. Richards

Tell me that Corey Warner

 

[Sully111]

Nah, Ned Long gets in

Seriously though, people can laugh all they like. Higgins has had a great start to the year. 14 goals... set up many others. He's well ahead of Long

 

[Orange crush]

Seriously though, people can laugh all they like. Higgins has had a great start to the year. 14 goals... set up many others. He's well ahead of Long

Long’s played 1 less game and kicked 10 but 2 more goal assists and double the i50s and x3 the 1%s

 

[Mags98]

My AA 44 man squad after round 5:

ADE - I. Rankine - R. Thilthorpe - D. Fogarty - T. Walker

BRI - W. Ashcroft - H. McCluggage - D. Zorko

CAR - J. Weitering

COL - N. Daicos - J. Daicos - D. Cameron

ESS - Z. Merrett

FRE - C. Serong - J. Treacy

GEL - Z. Guthrie - M. Holmes - B. Smith - P. Dangerfield

GCS - M. Rowell - N. Anderson - B. King - S. Collins - J. Witts

GWS - L. Ash - S. Taylor - L. Whitfield - T. Greene

HAW - J. Sicily - J. Newcombe

MEL - n/a

NOR - T. Xerri - N. Larkey - L. Davies-Uniacke

POR - A. Aliir - M. Georgiades - J. Horne-Francis

RIC - n/a

STK - N. Wanganeen-Milera - J. Sinclair - J. Higgins - J. Macrae - C. Wilkie

SYD - C. Warner

WCE - n/a

WBD - T. Liberatore - S. Darcy - E. Richards

would have LJ over Serong TBH, serongs had a couple games where hes been well held below his best.

 

[bungalow_bill]

McCluggage an absolute certainty at this stage.

LEADERBOARD​

28 Hugh McCluggage

6

Hugh Mccluggage

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

(BL)
25 Noah Anderson

15

Noah Anderson

Age

24

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

(GCFC)
25 Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

(GWS)
24 Caleb Serong

3

Caleb Serong

Age

24

Ht

180cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

(FRE)
23 Andrew Brayshaw

8

Andrew Brayshaw

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.3

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.1

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.1

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(FRE)
23 Zach Merrett (ESS)
23 Josh Treacy (FRE)
22 Matt Rowell

18

Matt Rowell

Age

24

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(GCFC)
22 Jack Sinclair

35

Jack Sinclair

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

235.0

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

MG

376.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

138.2

3star

(STK)
21 Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

(GEEL)
20 Jordan Dawson

12

Jordan Dawson

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

(ADEL)

 

[Cringle]

I'ts probably a few weeks too early for this, but Macrae is a certainty right now in the midfield surely.

If anything it’s a few weeks too late

 

[Toffee Lion]

Zorko & Clug in the 22 from Brisbane. Wash & Neale probably squad.

 

[JHF1870]

Not a lot between the mids at this stage, need more time for players to break out.

Rowell is the best mid this season by a bit.

Rucks with at least 20 hitouts to advantage

Pretty even by my stats for Gawn and TDK. Throw a blanket over the others.

 

[HTPunter]

Squad of 44 - listed in order of priority for each position

Rucks - TDK, Cameron, Gawn

Key Forwards - Darcy, Thilthorpe, King, Treacy

Small forwards - Greene, Long, Higgins, Curtis, Bo.Hill

Key defenders - Taylor, Weitering, Battle, Wilkie, Collins

Medium defenders - Z.Guthrie, Idun, Vlastuin

Not actual defender (I.e rebound) defenders - Whitfield, NWM, Sinclair, Ash, Bowey

Midfielders -
Rowell, Merrett, Naicos, McCluggage, Brayshaw, Macrae, Anderson, Holmes, Liberatore, Hewett, Smith, Heeney, Rankine, Dunkley, Rozee, JHF, Dawson, W.Ashcroft, Hopper

Hogan half a season doesn’t make it (yet). Same goes for Kosi.

I’d be happy with
B: Wilkie, Taylor, Whitfield
HB: NWM, Weitering, Ash
C: McCluggage, Rowell, Holmes
HF: Merrett, Darcy, Greene
F: Long, King, Thilthorpe
Foll: TDK, Brayshaw, Naicos
Bench: Macrae, Anderson, Libba, Hewett/Smith

Probably missed one or 2 but also don’t think that’s a bad team. Merrett on the forward flank as he’s had a bag of 4 so can justify shoehorning him there - would also probably give him the C, Toby VC.

 

[JHF1870]

Squad of 44 - listed in order of priority for each position

Rucks - TDK, Cameron, Gawn

Key Forwards - Darcy, Thilthorpe, King, Treacy

Small forwards - Greene, Long, Higgins, Curtis, Bo.Hill

Key defenders - Taylor, Weitering, Battle, Wilkie, Collins

Medium defenders - Z.Guthrie, Idun, Vlastuin

Not actual defender (I.e rebound) defenders - Whitfield, NWM, Sinclair, Ash, Bowey

Midfielders -
Rowell, Merrett, Naicos, McCluggage, Brayshaw, Macrae, Anderson, Holmes, Liberatore, Hewett, Smith, Heeney, Rankine, Dunkley, Rozee, JHF, Dawson, W.Ashcroft, Hopper

Hogan half a season doesn’t make it (yet). Same goes for Kosi.

I’d be happy with
B: Wilkie, Taylor, Whitfield
HB: NWM, Weitering, Ash
C: McCluggage, Rowell, Holmes
HF: Merrett, Darcy, Greene
F: Long, King, Thilthorpe
Foll: TDK, Brayshaw, Naicos
Bench: Macrae, Anderson, Libba, Hewett/Smith

Probably missed one or 2 but also don’t think that’s a bad team. Merrett on the forward flank as he’s had a bag of 4 so can justify shoehorning him there - would also probably give him the C, Toby VC.

I think in a RWS three talls is too much. Needs a dedicated 3rd man up, or a pure CHF.

Eg: Franklin, Riewoldt, J Cameron

To add to that Id add Shannon Grant, Eddie Betts and Cyril Rioli

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Higgins is ahead of Long

No chance.

Ben Long - incredibly in the top 20 in the league for all of the below categories.
Goals
Goal Assists
Marks Inside 50
Total Contested marks - Matching C. Curnow, more than double ANY of the Saints totals.
Tackles inside 50

Higgins kicked 1 more goal. Long in just about every other key stat.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

My AA 44 man squad after round 5:

ADE - I. Rankine - R. Thilthorpe - D. Fogarty - T. Walker

BRI - W. Ashcroft - H. McCluggage - D. Zorko

CAR - J. Weitering

COL - N. Daicos - J. Daicos - D. Cameron

ESS - Z. Merrett

FRE - C. Serong - J. Treacy

GEL - Z. Guthrie - M. Holmes - B. Smith - P. Dangerfield

GCS - M. Rowell - N. Anderson - B. King - S. Collins - J. Witts

GWS - L. Ash - S. Taylor - L. Whitfield - T. Greene

HAW - J. Sicily - J. Newcombe

MEL - n/a

NOR - T. Xerri - N. Larkey - L. Davies-Uniacke

POR - A. Aliir - M. Georgiades - J. Horne-Francis

RIC - n/a

STK - N. Wanganeen-Milera - J. Sinclair - J. Higgins - J. Macrae - C. Wilkie

SYD - C. Warner

WCE - n/a

WBD - T. Liberatore - S. Darcy - E. Richards

S.Collins been well down on his previous form and doesn't deserve to anywhere near this list.

Played ok against hapless Eagles and Melbourne who don't really have any strong tall forwards
Otherwise got flogged by Thilthorpe, beaten by Lynch, broke even with Larkey.
Looks a bit lost without his mate Ballard.

 

[JHF1870]

No chance.

Ben Long - incredibly in the top 20 in the league for all of the below categories.
Goals
Goal Assists
Marks Inside 50
Total Contested marks - Matching C. Curnow, more than double ANY of the Saints totals.
Tackles inside 50

Higgins kicked 1 more goal. Long in just about every other key stat.
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Agreed, Jack Higgins not even close

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Agreed, Jack Higgins not even close
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What makes up the TOTAL1 - is this just all those stats combined?

 

[JHF1870]

What makes up the TOTAL1 - is this just all those stats combined?

My formula with weightings adjusted based on elite games. It does need some tweaking for next season. I'm trying to build two systems. One with all positions equalized, the other on impact alone.

This is only a snapshot of the most relevant stats for that position.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

My formula with weightings adjusted based on elite games. It does need some tweaking for next season. I'm trying to build two systems. One with all positions equalized, the other on impact alone.

Nice,
So each individual game is graded according to what an elite game for that position looks like?

 

[JHF1870]

Nice,
So each individual game is graded according to what an elite game for that position looks like?

That's the aim. It's a little bit off. In hindsight I would have prepared from last season but I like the challenge.

If an elite game has 15 clearances, then that's the benchmark. The idea for next season is to benchmark the elite number of intercept possessions and make things all equal.

I think rucks need to be nerfed slightly and more precise weightings for Mids, such as Center clearances vs stoppage clearances. Tackles also need a slight nerf. I don't want scrappy mids with cheap ineffective tackles racking up the points.

 

[Dtennent94]

That's the aim. It's a little bit off. In hindsight I would have prepared from last season but I like the challenge.

If an elite game has 15 clearances, then that's the benchmark. The idea for next season is to benchmark the elite number of intercept possessions and make things all equal.

I think rucks need to be nerfed slightly and more precise weightings for Mids, such as Center clearances vs stoppage clearances. Tackles also need a slight nerf. I don't want scrappy mids with cheap ineffective tackles racking up the points.

I think one thing you could look at with rucks is not just raw hitouts or even hitouts to advantage, but use the differential between them and their opponent/s.

Then it encapsulates both their ability to generate and to stifle in the ruck.

 

[JHF1870]

I think one thing you could look at with rucks is not just raw hitouts or even hitouts to advantage, but use the differential between them and their opponent/s.

Then it encapsulates both their ability to generate and to stifle in the ruck.

Interesting take. I'll add it to my notes

ATM I'm not rewarding anything for hitouts otherwise they'd be dominating. Only for hitouts to advantage. I could include some sort of bonus for the differential, or a scaled score.

If I only use the differential, rucks might suffer significantly in terms of other positions. Maybe a bonus of like 1.2 for 5, 1.5 for 10 etc.

 

[Dtennent94]

Interesting take. I'll add it to my notes

ATM I'm not rewarding anything for hitouts otherwise they'd be dominating. Only for hitouts to advantage. I could include some sort of bonus for the differential, or a scaled score.

If I only use the differential, rucks might suffer significantly in terms of other positions. Maybe a bonus of like 1.2 for 5, 1.5 for 10 etc.

Maybe you could rank players against the average score for their position? As a percentage?

Like say… TDK performed 38% above the average score for ruckman.

Then you can order all the players by how far above or below the expected score for their position?

 

[JHF1870]

Maybe you could rank players against the average score for their position? As a percentage?

Like say… TDK performed 38% above the average score for ruckman.

Then you can order all the players by how far above or below the expected score for their position?

I think that's what I'm trying to setup for next season. I'll benchmark all positions. Then theoretically, if a mid scores 60 and a defender scores 80, then I know the defender had a standout game.

This will however mean that only the most dynamic players in each position will score well but that sits well with me. You need more than a few strings to your bow. So if you're a defender, you need a lot of stats in different areas, intercepts, one percenters, rebound 50s, intercept marks, contested marks, high DE. Simply scoring a world record in spoils won't cut it.