List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[jmac70]

You’re confusing people wanting to do it with people accepting that it would probably be what it takes, and realising the odds tell us we’d likely be a stronger outfit overall for a longer period of time if it did happen.

No, that’s not correct. I’m saying that players who stand up on the biggest day and produce plays that win the day are not guys you let go easily.

 

[Leigh aka Frogs]

lol I thought he was an RFA. My bad

 

[gouki88]

No, that’s not correct. I’m saying that players who stand up on the biggest day and produce plays that win the day are not guys you let go easily.

Who is saying he'd be let go easily? Getting one of the best contested mids in the game would hardly be us letting him go easily - if anything, we'd be bending GC over

 

[jmac70]

He’s contracted, and I doubt he’d be offered unless GC asks. In which case he’s desirable to them and his value isn’t as low as you’d think.

We’d have to add more, but we’d be looking at getting an 8-10 year player over one who might last another 3-4 if we’re lucky.

Maybe the discussion should be about what people think Rowell is worth.

 

[jmac70]

Who is saying he'd be let go easily? Getting one of the best contested mids in the game would hardly be us letting him go easily - if anything, we'd be bending GC over

You think GC would accept a straight swap???

 

[gouki88]

You think GC would accept a straight swap???

Not at all.

 

[Apex36]

No, that’s not correct. I’m saying that players who stand up on the biggest day and produce plays that win the day are not guys you let go easily.

Not sure how gaining one of the premier mids in the comp is letting Jordy go easily, but ok.

 

[jmac70]

Not at all.

This is the point. De Goey would only be part of the trade. IMO, better value to try and get him fit.

 

[jmac70]

Not sure how gaining one of the premier mids in the comp is letting Jordy go easily, but ok.

Because we would also have to part with a lot more. Jordy’s value right now is low.

Have you ever sold a house?

 

[Apex36]

This is the point. De Goey would only be part of the trade. IMO, better value to try and get him fit.

It’s a big gamble though, because there’s no guarantee that he’ll ever get back to his absolute best and his longevity is questionable.

That’s why Rowell is the better option if you’re playing the odds, which is a big part of list management.

 

[gouki88]

This is the point. De Goey would only be part of the trade. IMO, better value to try and get him fit.

I still disagree. Rowell will be a great player for ~10 years. De Goey might have a couple of strong years left, if his body can get right

 

[Apex36]

Because we would also have to part with a lot more. Jordy’s value right now is low.

Have you ever sold a house?

I don’t believe it’s as low as you’d think.

And yes, several. I’m actually very experienced in the real estate market so this isn’t the way to try and lecture me. It won’t end the way you think.

 

[jmac70]

It’s a big gamble though, because there’s no guarantee that he’ll ever get back to his absolute best and his longevity is questionable.

That’s why Rowell is the better option if you’re playing the odds, which is a big part of list management.

I disagree. De Goey has two years left of his contract and we are in the window. A fit De Goey goes a long way to getting the flag.

He’s easily worth it.

 

[jmac70]

I still disagree. Rowell will be a great player for ~10 years. De Goey might have a couple of strong years left, if his body can get right

Who and what are you also prepared to trade?

 

[Apex36]

I disagree. De Goey has two years left of his contract and we are in the window. A fit De Goey goes a long way to getting the flag.

He’s easily worth it.

The bolded is your big gamble. And if you think a player of Rowells quality doesn’t do the same then you clearly aren’t watching any football outside of Collingwood games.

 

[jmac70]

I don’t believe it’s as low as you’d think.

And yes, several. I’m actually very experienced in the real estate market so this isn’t the way to try and lecture me. It won’t end the way you think.

I’m not lecturing you, stop looking for a personal argument.

If we trade De Goey we do not get the value we would have two years ago. Which is why we keep him and try to get him back to his best. He turns 30 next March and still has time.

 

[YouBeauty]

It’s a big gamble though, because there’s no guarantee that he’ll ever get back to his absolute best and his longevity is questionable.

That’s why Rowell is the better option if you’re playing the odds, which is a big part of list management.

Where do you get your devil's lettuce?

 

[jmac70]

The bolded is your big gamble. And if you think a player of Rowells quality doesn’t do the same then you clearly aren’t watching any football outside of Collingwood games.

Again, stop trying to make it personal. I have seen people post comparisons between the players but am yet to see anyone post what else they would give up with De Goey.

 

[gouki88]

Who and what are you also prepared to trade?

For Rowell, I'd be open to a lot of players / draft capital

 

[jmac70]

For Rowell, I'd be open to a lot of players / draft capital

Give me an example.
De Goey plus what?

 

[Apex36]

I’m not lecturing you, stop looking for a personal argument.

If we trade De Goey we do not get the value we would have two years ago. Which is why we keep him and try to get him back to his best. He turns 30 next March and still has time.

Sometimes it’s a better idea to take a small loss on your unstable investment and invest in something that you know will yield more profit in the long term.

Keeping the unstable investment can sometimes work out but it’s not generally a strategy that will get you a good result on a consistent basis.

 

[Apex36]

Where do you get your devil's lettuce?

Come up with a logical argument instead of this nonsense.

 

[gouki88]

Give me an example.
De Goey plus what?

Hard to when I have no idea what GC are looking for, nor who would be willing - the latter being the only relevant thing really.

 

[gouki88]

Where do you get your devil's lettuce?

All that he said was correct

 

[Apex36]

Again, stop trying to make it personal. I have seen people post comparisons between the players but am yet to see anyone post what else they would give up with De Goey.

What’s personal about this?

Do you watch much footy outside of Collingwood games? Nothing about what you’re saying indicates you do, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but it also means you’re probably underrating the player Rowell is.

Why do you need to know what random people on the internet would give up? They have no influence on trade value, we need to trust that Leppitsch is capable of getting us a decent deal.