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2026 Trade / FA Thread

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We don't have to keep HDM and jiath. Their contracts would be modest and it is worth paying them out just to have the benefit of having two list spots.
Unless they can find another spot for HDM - forward pocket?


TJ can leap and spoil but…
The prob with TJ at this stage is
  • he runs off without a plan and gets himself into trouble
  • worse is his ball drop - this can lead to his kicks going anywhere - sometimes the hit the target, sometimes they helicopter in another direction
Whilst this is ok at VFL, what about in a high stakes final - are we ok if he has the ball?
I’d like to see him succeed but if he can’t be trusted with disposal then he may be up against it
 
Finishing higher and poorer picks, is balanced out by walk start to finals with phenomenal HGA win rate. So achieving finals as a metric is skewed more in favour of HGA than recruiting- hence why they had a 75% loss rate in finals between 2011 and around 2021. In fact “, Scott was highly criticized accordingly at the time.

So again if flags are the metric they are no better than us from 2010/11.

Which begs the question, are they really the benchmark and do they really need to be lauded so passionately.
They're the benchmark Spinny. Up for 20 years and their current team was acquired on the smell of an oily rag without any draft concession players and it's set to be in contention for the coming years. They're beating a system that is designed for them to have fallen twice in that timeframe. Us and Sydney have done well too, but it's been through draft concessions.
 
They're the benchmark Spinny. Up for 20 years and their current team was acquired on the smell of an oily rag without any draft concession players and it's set to be in contention for the coming years. They're beating a system that is designed for them to have fallen twice in that timeframe. Us and Sydney have done well too, but it's been through draft concessions.
I’ve given you a thorough review of why the idea of them being the benchmark is questionable. More than happy to hear the counter argument- “up for 20 years” could also be achieved by other teams if they had a massive HGA and therefore a walk up start to finals every year.
Losing 75% of finals between 2012-2019, reinforced my point - GMHBA gives them a massive leg up.
 
I’ve given you a thorough review of why the idea of them being the benchmark is questionable. More than happy to hear the counter argument- “up for 20 years” could also be achieved by other teams if they had a massive HGA and therefore a walk up start to finals every year.
Losing 75% of finals between 2012-2019, reinforced my point - GMHBA gives them a massive leg up.
The conversation was about recruiting - and if their ladder position is artificially inflated like you're suggesting - that just makes their recruiting better as it means their picks have been worse than they should have been. Personally, I think Scott stuffed up in that 2012-2019 period by not playing a game style suited to the finals venues.
 

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I’ve given you a thorough review of why the idea of them being the benchmark is questionable. More than happy to hear the counter argument- “up for 20 years” could also be achieved by other teams if they had a massive HGA and therefore a walk up start to finals every year.
Losing 75% of finals between 2012-2019, reinforced my point - GMHBA gives them a massive leg up.
He’s talking about drafting/ trading spinny. That’s no argument. They’ve been the best.

Give the bombers a home ground advantage like Geelong have but with bombers recruitment and drafting. They’d still be shit
 
He’s talking about drafting/ trading spinny. That’s no argument. They’ve been the best.

Give the bombers a home ground advantage like Geelong have but with bombers recruitment and drafting. They’d still be shit
SR was talking about Geel “being up for 20 years”, the HGA is a huge contributor to that achievement.
Of course teams like Ess wouldn’t have capitalized on it.
But conversely give that HGA to Coll we’d be the team lauded.
 
He’s talking about drafting/ trading spinny. That’s no argument. They’ve been the best.

Give the bombers a home ground advantage like Geelong have but with bombers recruitment and drafting. They’d still be shit
I actually think KP has cost them flags - they had more in them, but they didn't adapt to what the tigers were doing quickly enough, as it wasn't a Kardinia Park game style.
 
I actually think KP has cost them flags - they had more in them, but they didn't adapt to what the tigers were doing quickly enough, as it wasn't a Kardinia Park game style.
Playing a lot of sub standard teams there certainly doesn't help either. Adelaide have also been guilty of this.
 
SR was talking about Geel “being up for 20 years”, the HGA is a huge contributor to that achievement.
Of course teams like Ess wouldn’t have capitalized on it.
But conversely give that HGA to Coll we’d be the team lauded.
The up for 20 years was in the context of the draft picks you get in return. You want to turn it into their home ground advantage, (which is also a disadvantage come finals) but that's not recruiting. They've been awesome and deserve the credit they get.
 
The up for 20 years was in the context of the draft picks you get in return. You want to turn it into their home ground advantage, (which is also a disadvantage come finals) but that's not recruiting. They've been awesome and deserve the credit they get.
I think we can agree to disagree - not sure I can make my view any clearer.
When some one offers some empirical evidence that negates my points then I’ll happily change my view.
 
Darcy Moore has been a two time all Australian. That means he has had two years as a key backman where he has been considered top 5 in the league by most. His main issue over his career has been injuries. But he has also had many good years of consistent footy.
The main issue with trading him would be imo he won't want to leave and if we tried to push him out we wouldn't get much for him and it would be a very bad look from a players point of view.
 

WHY PIES NEED TO LAND LACHIE​

WATCH Collingwood on Monday and wonder what the Pies midfield would look like with Lachie Neale next to Nick Daicos.

Imagine it because it is growing in likelihood as the Magpies become frontrunners for the Brisbane free agent as he weighs up his future.

The Pies were on hand at People First Stadium on Saturday night and among the stack of players in the game they have interest in, including Suns pair Jed Walter and Bailey Humphrey, Neale would have been under the microscope.


He didn't disappoint. His 37-disposal and seven-clearance effort added to a year that is statistically better than his 2023 Brownlow Medal season.

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Lachie Neale is tackled by Scott Pendlebury and Ned Long during Brisbane's game against Collingwood on Easter Thursday, 2026. Picture: AFL Photos
He is averaging more disposals, metres gained, inside-50s, uncontested possessions, marks, centre clearances, score assists and score involvements this year than that campaign, whilst is also up on ranking points according to Champion Data (14.8 to 13.9).

Neale is on track to win his fifth Lions best and fairest – and seventh of his career – and is ranked third in the AFL for clearances and fifth for disposals.

The Magpies, meanwhile, are ranked in the bottom four for differentials in contested possessions, first possessions, clearances and centre clearances – all the forte of the two-time premiership star.

The appeal for the Pies in the 33-year-old is that he costs no draft capital as an unrestricted free agent. And after taking six mature age draftees since last year's mid-season draft, Collingwood is not backing down from its strategy to keep contending and adding pieces to its list while Nick Daicos is the best player in the game.

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Lachie Neale and Nick Daicos after the 2023 Grand Final. Picture: AFL Photos
There are others in Collingwood's sights and the club hasn't given up on attracting Zak Butters, who is deciding between the Western Bulldogs, Geelong, Richmond and the Pies, albeit the Dogs have been favourites over many months.

Neale is taking his time to decide his future and has been considering a return to Western Australia, as well as interest from Adelaide, but the Pies are keen. Brisbane wants to keep him but that seems the least likely result at this stage.

The Pies' chase for Neale would pose the question on whether it shapes the calls of Scott Pendlebury and Steele Sidebottom on whether they play on into 2027. But if you took him in this form and placed him into the centre bounce to start Monday's King's Birthday clash against Melbourne, the Pies are a more formidable unit.
 

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Imagine it because it is growing in likelihood as the Magpies become frontrunners for the Brisbane free agent as he weighs up his future.

The Pies were on hand at People First Stadium on Saturday night and among the stack of players in the game they have interest in, including Suns pair Jed Walter and Bailey Humphrey, Neale would have been under the microscope.
Oh boy. It’s happening isn’t it. It’s getting louder and louder by the week.

I’m expecting Humphrey to end up somewhere else but good to hear we were there looking at Walter + Neale. We sound aggressive.
 
Oh boy. It’s happening isn’t it. It’s getting louder and louder by the week.

I’m expecting Humphrey to end up somewhere else but good to hear we were there looking at Walter + Neale. We sound aggressive.

Trying to stop us falling off the Cliff
 

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Have to be careful here. Yes I would absolutely love him, but there as to be a limit that we do not cross.

Can't go too crazy with the years and yearly compensation.

Maybe a 3 year contract with a trigger for a 4th. For the first 2 seasons we should aim to pay him something close to the 800-900k mark, and I wouldn't be too mad at that because he would be in our top 5 players.

Have the salary drop for the 3rd and potentially the 4th year.

It will be problematic if we are considering offering him something close to a $1million a season.
It will be front loaded. $1.1 - 1.2 M first 2 seasons , then triggers attached after that .. Get him in Pies
 

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