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To be honest I don't think we should have challenged the score. We were more likely to score from a centre clearance with 9 seconds left than going coast to coast.

At least we could have levelled the score...
We can say that knowing how much time is left but players wouldn’t know exactly how much. If the 30 second sign is up you absolutely challenge because that’s enough time to go end to end.
 
We can say that knowing how much time is left but players wouldn’t know exactly how much. If the 30 second sign is up you absolutely challenge because that’s enough time to go end to end.
Still a big risk, while the review is taking place Gold Coast are setting up an all out defensive structure.
 
Dude kicked 30 goals playing the role not many are good at. I'm not convinced he's as easy to replace as everyone thinks. Not every player in the 22 needs to be a hard nut.
Remember that chase on Richards in '22?

I just want more of that with the odd body on the line.
 

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An experienced consistently winning clearance midfielder to stop the quarters where we keep going missing and fall behind. We can't rely on smashing one quarter each game to get the wins. Brayshaw, Serong, Reid, Bolton and too small a group against some of the best and Young is more of a sword than a battering ram.
- maybe that's MJ/Ras or see what falls out by shaking the tree over east

A talented small goal hungry forward
- maybe that's Wombat with a proper pre-season

Another HBF as a second to Clark
- we've had them (Young, Wagner) but JLo keep moving them elsewhere

Consistent Winger
- maybe that's Sharp without his foot injury he's carried this year

But, any A/B+ graders that want to join us to fill one of those positions would be awesome
 
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Dude kicked 30 goals playing the role not many are good at. I'm not convinced he's as easy to replace as everyone thinks. Not every player in the 22 needs to be a hard nut.

I think he is our biggest conundrum. You just don't find 30 goals that easy. His athletic gifts are outrageous, still don't think he knows how good he could be. My concern is that at 25 with 100 games the penny just isn't going to drop and this is as good as it is going to get? Maybe he just doesn't have the stomach for the fight like others do?
 
I think Raz and Johnno have certainly gone past JOM and NOD.

Chapman to a wing. Banfield and Worner out. Simpson, Walker, and Starcevich back.

Duds to have a pre-season. Switta to spend some time with Enda King in Qatar. Wallsy to pluck a small forward rabbit.

And whatever other surprises the trade period may provide. Not much really.
 
I think he is our biggest conundrum. You just don't find 30 goals that easy. His athletic gifts are outrageous, still don't think he knows how good he could be. My concern is that at 25 with 100 games the penny just isn't going to drop and this is as good as it is going to get? Maybe he just doesn't have the stomach for the fight like others do?
it's pretty apparent from my seats directly above the 50m line that Freddie has been given a role to cover space, not go to tackle. Don't know why that is a preferable strategy but it is a change from last year when we saw him do those chase downs, and is consistent with JLo's defensive strategy to cover space in zone formations than 1 on 1, like is working nicely for Hawthorn and Geelong who play tight 1 on 1 to create turnovers from 50:50s rather than intercept marks.

IMO, he played the role he was given (even though I consider this defensive role is flawed) and he was our 4th highest goal kicker.

So, no complaints from me except for the misses on goal, but so did Andy and Caleb and Reid so no one misses that criticism.
 
All of the important stuff has been covered but the main thing for me is improving the way we transition the ball out of D50. Improvement doesn't necessarily mean more speed either (**** I hate that false equivalence), but we look pretty suspect when our one wood of kicking long to a contest on the wing and then setting from there doesn't work. Yes we are often able to eventually move it into our forward 50, but it's typically not very clean ball and well-equiped defensive sides are able to force a contest, which then just highlights our pretty sub-par pressure inside 50.

New players and/or someone like Simpson coming into the team may help but we can't rely on that happening. It's a luxury to have several strong contested marking targets but we need a few extra strings to our bow.
Not sure it's false equivalence at all. Almost all the elite rebounders that feature in high metres gained have some toe. My first preference would be to unleash the Heath but I guess nondescript medium defender is his lot in life. It's been McVee's problem at Melbourne too, his assets aren't being fully utilised. It's the classic RTB "you need to learn to defend first" purgatory while ignoring the attributes that caused them to get drafted in the first place.

And we're not getting rid of Freddy, but for his sake as well as the team's we need to find players who can at least pressure his spot. He's basically had a free ride his entire time at Freo due to lack of other options and Sturt's permainjuries.
 
Cooper is the one. He rarely wastes a disposal and the boy is QUICK. Not fussed if we don’t get McVee with Cooper coming on, plus Whan will probably start his career off half back eventually with that left boot being an asset.

Tipping a big pre-season for Coops and a starting spot in our 23 next season. We looked a lot more dangerous with him in the team.
 

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I may be wrong, but to me Freddy seems to have lost a lot of confidence sine he received his concussion. Last season I think it was.
I'm not sure. He still stands in the hole. Which is admirable considering what happened. He just doesn't seem to want to fight for the ball at ground level. Gets pushed out of the contest to easily and only occasionally bothers with a second effort.
We probably need to put him somewhere where we can use his speed more. Against the Bullies he seemed to spend a fair bit of time trying to quell the influence of Bailey Dale. What a waste of resource.
 
I'm not sure. He still stands in the hole. Which is admirable considering what happened. He just doesn't seem to want to fight for the ball at ground level. Gets pushed out of the contest to easily and only occasionally bothers with a second effort.
We probably need to put him somewhere where we can use his speed more. Against the Bullies he seemed to spend a fair bit of time trying to quell the influence of Bailey Dale. What a waste of resource.
I could see Freddy running on the wing.
 
I'm not sure. He still stands in the hole. Which is admirable considering what happened. He just doesn't seem to want to fight for the ball at ground level. Gets pushed out of the contest to easily and only occasionally bothers with a second effort.
We probably need to put him somewhere where we can use his speed more. Against the Bullies he seemed to spend a fair bit of time trying to quell the influence of Bailey Dale. What a waste of resource.
certainly seems a waste of his skills. Would be like JLo putting Stephen Hill as a HF and then everyone complaining that he wasn't that good cause his tackles weren't that strong.
 
Having too many players competing for the same ball was a problem for us over the last few years, getting sucked into the contest and I expect that given we have pretty good contested ball winners that certain players have been told to be outside that contest for someone to pass it to.
 

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Having too many players competing for the same ball was a problem for us over the last few years, getting sucked into the contest and I expect that given we have pretty good contested ball winners that certain players have been told to be outside that contest for someone to pass it to.
That doesn't apply if it is only you and your opponent. Besides, first at the scene needs to get the job done. Might not get another chance.
 
That doesn't apply if it is only you and your opponent. Besides, first at the scene needs to get the job done. Might not get another chance.

I agree in principle but I can understand a circumstance where a player has "gone when it's their turn" so to speak and didn't see another player coming in, pulled up in the team meeting about playing your role and waiting for the handball such that you wait on the outside.
 
I agree in principle but I can understand a circumstance where a player has "gone when it's their turn" so to speak and didn't see another player coming in, pulled up in the team meeting about playing your role and waiting for the handball such that you wait on the outside.
Surely the ball would be gone by then 90 % of the time. I know people like excusing him because he is an outside player, but I don't think any player is allowed to do what he did in the elim. That is as bad as I have ever seen from him. If he isn't injured then he is taking liberties and is way, way too comfortable that he will never get dropped, no matter what.
 
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Surely the ball would be gone by then 90 % of the time. I know people like excusing him because he is an outside player, but I don't think any player is allowed to do what he did in the prelim. That is as bad as I have ever seen from him. If he isn't injured then he is taking liberties and is way, way too comfortable that he will never get dropped, no matter what.

I don't think there's as much available brain power for decision making in the heat of the moment, under fatigue as it might appear and the key to success with some of the footballers is to have as simple a role and instruction as possible.

Frederick fumbling for the ball was bad, his fancy kick into the post was bad, there was plenty bad about it - but if his role is to be in a place and available for a handball receive then the game plan might require someone else to be at the contest, or the ball kicked somewhere else on the field enough that the coach can tell him to stay off the contest and not try and win his own ball - especially with Reid firing off those handballs out the back of his head.

It would make sense to me that he is told not to go in for the ball, then circumstances of chaos and other uncontrolled natures put him where he is the one who needs to contest it and he doesn't go in for it.

It would be very odd for a player to shirk a contest like he did against the dogs and then not suffer at selection for it if that wasn't what he was told to do.
 
I don't think there's as much available brain power for decision making in the heat of the moment, under fatigue as it might appear and the key to success with some of the footballers is to have as simple a role and instruction as possible.

Frederick fumbling for the ball was bad, his fancy kick into the post was bad, there was plenty bad about it - but if his role is to be in a place and available for a handball receive then the game plan might require someone else to be at the contest, or the ball kicked somewhere else on the field enough that the coach can tell him to stay off the contest and not try and win his own ball - especially with Reid firing off those handballs out the back of his head.

It would make sense to me that he is told not to go in for the ball, then circumstances of chaos and other uncontrolled natures put him where he is the one who needs to contest it and he doesn't go in for it.

It would be very odd for a player to shirk a contest like he did against the dogs and then not suffer at selection for it if that wasn't what he was told to do.
It just can't happen the way you are saying it on an isolated one-on-one. Any coach that allows a player to not compete and let their opponent win the ball and hope we win it back later needs his/her arse punted. Their are ball winners and receivers, but that is generalised. Everyone has to win their own ball on certain occasions.
 
It just can't happen the way you are saying it on an isolated one-on-one. Any coach that allows a player to not compete and let their opponent win the ball and hope we win it back later needs his/her arse punted. Their are ball winners and receivers, but that is generalised. Everyone has to win their own ball on certain occasions.

I don't think Frederick is one of the rare players who knows where everyone else is on the field and I wouldn't be surprised if he is playing assuming team mates are where they are needed for him to be getting the handball.

On those occasions where he is running towards goal, towards a loose ball and only his opponent competing with him for it - yes he should win his own ball there and I think he would, but higher up the ground he might not know where the rest of the players on the field are like Serong and Reid seem to.
 

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