List Mgmt. 2026 Young Talent Time

[Taylor]

Would you risk letting a father son go to a rubbish team for three years, with them burning their high pick and not getting their extra pick for it, to pick them up when they come out of contract later?

 

[Alfonz]

Would you risk letting a father son go to a rubbish team for three years, with them burning their high pick and not getting their extra pick for it, to pick them up when they come out of contract later?

Not a chance if they were a genuine top prospect. Look at Pies and Brisbane winning flags with Daicos and Ashcroft dominating in their early years.

Then you've got Carlton ... Walker and Dean are their only beacons of hope beyond Jagga. The place would be burned to the ground if they passed.

This extra pick is being overblown anyway ... it's likely to be in the high 20's or even 30's.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Not a chance if they were a genuine top prospect. Look at Pies and Brisbane winning flags with Daicos and Ashcroft dominating in their early years.

Then you've got Carlton ... Walker and Dean are their only beacons of hope beyond Jagga. The place would be burned to the ground if they passed.

This extra pick is being overblown anyway ... it's likely to be in the high 20's or even 30's.

In theory, if the new points and bidding works, the extra pick should stay around 19-20 because people are having to match bids with 2 high picks, not junk. It should only back because of FA compo picks. We should be finished with the first round pushing anywhere near 30

 

[Purple Suit]

In theory, if the new points and bidding works, the extra pick should stay around 19-20 because people are having to match bids with 2 high picks, not junk. It should only back because of FA compo picks. We should be finished with the first round pushing anywhere near 30

It might even lead to some drafts being before pick 19 if multiple clubs go into deficit and then it comes off their first rounder the following year. I recon we might see some big spending on future picks. It will be interesting if Tassie or compo effects the deficit. Are the points based on the original pick spot or the new pick after everything else?

 

[Alfonz]

In theory, if the new points and bidding works, the extra pick should stay around 19-20 because people are having to match bids with 2 high picks, not junk. It should only back because of FA compo picks. We should be finished with the first round pushing anywhere near 30

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about this but you are right. Hopefully it eats firsts up (as it should).

 

[ImperialPurple]

I like that system, a huge improvement on the current one.
But an end of first round pick is too generous for slipping out of the Top 5. On DVI your looking at slipping pick 4/5 to pick 6/7 as a loss of 100-300 points and being given a pick 20-23 c650-750 points compensation.

The pick should be commensurate with the amount of points lost. So rather than automatically getting an end of first round pick - if the points happens to be equal to (say) pick 30, then give them that.

 

[Lach72]

It’s interesting. We currently have 5 academy/FS on the list.

Draper, Walker, Carr, Whan and Ryder Luke.

Brandon Walker is the only one actually bid on at the draft. (2020, 50, Essendon)
You can’t say we’ve had access to Elite talent. Henry proved to be a dud.
We have no Free Agents.

We lost the potential of two higher ones when the AFL changed the rules for a year or two (Mitch Edward’s and Jesse Motlop). Not a disaster but Edward’s looks handy now he’s over his injuries.

We have a fair few top 20 picks on the list, (Brayshaw, Erasmus, Amiss, Young, Serong, Reid, Sturt, Chapman) but if you picked our current best 25 players we’ve traded for them using a lot of currency (Bolton and Jackson, Clark, McVee), or drafted them from 30 onwards or picked as rookies and SSP’s (Scerri, Dudley)

Walls has used every tool he can to build the depth in the list. It still feels like we’re a bit short on absolute elite talent, but he’s done the best he can with what he has.

The Eagles top end talent is looking quite scary in its infancy.
Reid is coming on and Duursma and CDT already look like elite talent, as they should be.

Gold Coast even worse. I mean they’ve got Rowell in the sheds and a heap that haven’t even started.

 

[Spirit Level]

A lot of success is bottoming out at the right time (mostly luck)

When we had picks right up the top end we got Brayshaw and Cerra (later Amiss), then Serong and Young.

Not bad at all, but compared to West Coast who got Reid, Duursma and Duff-Tytler which is generational stuff.

 

[SaintLoopy]

A lot of success is bottoming out at the right time (mostly luck)

When we had picks right up the top end we got Brayshaw and Cerra (later Amiss), then Serong and Young.

Not bad at all, but compared to West Coast who got Reid, Duursma and Duff-Tytler which is generational stuff.

Don’t forget that Lucas Robinson has been named in the league side this weekend on the ball. Not a bad nga I’d say.

 

[Spirit Level]

Don’t forget that Lucas Robinson has been named in the league side this weekend on the ball. Not a bad nga I’d say.

Every time someone writes nga, I think they're meaning something else for a second....

 

[King Huskii]

Don’t forget that Lucas Robinson has been named in the league side this weekend on the ball. Not a bad nga I’d say.

Everyone is saying he is too slow to make it at AFL level

 

[Alfonz]

Everyone is saying he is too slow to make it at AFL level

There's an interview from February with him on rookie me and he says he has been working with a sprint coach over summer and it has been paying dividends. Also working on his endurance. Richmond supporter as well.

Might be some concerns with his kicking as well, but it's hard to tell from the vision I've watched because he is usually under pressure. Or has taken a mark and only chips it short to a free man or long to a contest. But seems more Erasmus than Young.

Could be another Tom Green (first person he reminded me of due to the visual likeness), or could be another Brodie. Or in between like Erasmus. Who knows.

 

[King Huskii]

There's an interview from February with him on rookie me and he says he has been working with a sprint coach over summer and it has been paying dividends. Also working on his endurance. Richmond supporter as well.

Might be some concerns with his kicking as well, but it's hard to tell from the vision I've watched because he is usually under pressure. Or has taken a mark and only chips it short to a free man or long to a contest. But seems more Erasmus than Young.

Could be another Tom Green (first person he reminded me of due to the visual likeness), or could be another Brodie. Or in between like Erasmus. Who knows.

Yeah i haven't seen enough of him to know. My mates son who is also in the NGA but a full year younger says he's awesome. But a few people outside of the players think he may really slide on draft night because of his acceleration.

For me I have no idea just going by what I've been told.

 

[Purple Suit]

A lot of success is bottoming out at the right time (mostly luck)

When we had picks right up the top end we got Brayshaw and Cerra (later Amiss), then Serong and Young.

Not bad at all, but compared to West Coast who got Reid, Duursma and Duff-Tytler which is generational stuff.

Hold your horses there. A few flashes is a long way off generational talent. Murphy Reid was showing more than all three in his first game.

 

[Taylor]

WC would be doing better if they traded that pick #2 to Melbourne for Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

24

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

. Now they need to find a ruckman so their midfield doesn't have to play 2nd to the ball while they are skinny kids.

 

[freo_leo29]

WC would be doing better if they traded that pick #2 to Melbourne for Luke Jackson. Now they need to find a ruckman so their midfield doesn't have to play 2nd to the ball while they are skinny kids.

They drafted their own Jackson

If they retain players then they'll be fine in 5 years

 

[Taylor]

They drafted their own Jackson

If they retain players then they'll be fine in 5 years

They did draft their own, but they needed one ready to go for all those midfielders to play under - not the guy being younger and less physically developed than the mids themselves.

I believe everything flows down the contest list, starting at the ruck and if you think of the field as little pyramid structures where the big body is at the top and everything flows down from there (Josh Treacy being the top of the table forward for us) then it shows how you can hide skinny inexperienced kids at the bottom and around the sides, like small forwards, half backs, tertiary mids - as long as you have the big bodies competing.

I don't rate Flynn, I should have started with that.

 

[Wizard]

League debut incoming.

 

[freo_leo29]

They did draft their own, but they needed one ready to go for all those midfielders to play under - not the guy being younger and less physically developed than the mids themselves.

I believe everything flows down the contest list, starting at the ruck and if you think of the field as little pyramid structures where the big body is at the top and everything flows down from there (Josh Treacy being the top of the table forward for us) then it shows how you can hide skinny inexperienced kids at the bottom and around the sides, like small forwards, half backs, tertiary mids - as long as you have the big bodies competing.

I don't rate Flynn, I should have started with that.

I don't rate Flynn either but they were doing a full refresh and started with picking key talls who will take a while anyway, so time is on their side

It's fine for them to develop them all at once as long as they actually retain the players


If they aren't a basket case then they will retain so they'll be fine


Can't forget how dire their list situation was 3 years ago when we got Dogga, they were in no position to be getting him

 

[Paracleet]

Lot of wrist slitting that West Coast are back baby. They have a very long way to go. Looking at their 23 on the weekend I'd say only half that side is going deep into their next run. Still need to land or develop a dozen above average quality AFL players.
Sure there are signs some of their spine are well above average talents, but if you want to see what an elite midfield with quality keys with dross everywhere looks just cast your mind back to Freo's 2016 season.

 

[Paracleet]

I'd further argue that West Coast have created an issue for themselves in holding off on sacking Simpson so long. They have placed their replacement coach in a position where, even if its not official policy, he and his group will instinctively be prioritising winning over development in order to preserve their jobs.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Absolutely nothing to see here, nothing fishy at all with the timing...

Swan gets new deal, injury blow for top draftee, young Lion in talks

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

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[go_the_dockers]

 

[go_the_dockers]

Absolutely nothing to see here, nothing fishy at all with the timing...

Swan gets new deal, injury blow for top draftee, young Lion in talks

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

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With the new rules it is just smart.

If he drops out the top 5 it saves a lot of points.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Not many athletes, let alone 17 year olds, get surgery for patella tendonitis.

The track record for AFL players having surgery on patella tendonitis isn't great.

I'd be more worried about the longevity of his career and if he will lose any athleticism than draft tampering.