Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 6 - It begins. (cont in pt 7)

[Showbags]

Certainly. I'll even provide it from an anti-Trump source.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/thi...es-of-jobs-that-are-thriving-under-trump.html

In b4 no response.

Tbf this is one area Trump deserves credit (using good old fashioned left wing tariff protections).

Though this may be leading to inflationary pressures so has downsides too.

He is a monumental disaster on every other level though.

 

[iBeng]

Certainly. I'll even provide it from an anti-Trump source.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/thi...es-of-jobs-that-are-thriving-under-trump.html

In b4 no response.

Jeez, finding positives in an increase in an environmentally, health-wise and short term sustainable-long term unsustainable industry?

Thats like arguing that the increase in crime rate is great for the police force because its more JOBS JOBS JOBS!

 

[FireKrakouer]

Tbf this is one area Trump deserves credit (using good old fashioned left wing tariff protections).

Though this may be leading to inflationary pressures so has downsides too.

He is a monumental disaster on every other level though.

I am not a blind RWNJ, I support many left wing causes, including SSM and protectionism. Trump is the first POTUS to be engaged with both.

Jeez, finding positives in an increase in an environmentally, health-wise and short term sustainable-long term unsustainable industry?

Thats like arguing that the increase in crime rate is great for the police force because its more JOBS JOBS JOBS!

I don't understand what you're saying, brah. If it's anti-coal, then I agree. Lucky that several super-factories producing things like solar panels have also opened.

 

[Showbags]

I am not a blind RWNJ, I support many left wing causes, including SSM and protectionism. Trump is the first POTUS to be engaged with both.

I don't understand what you're saying, brah. If it's anti-coal, then I agree. Lucky that several super-factories producing things like solar panels have also opened.

Lol Trump picked one of the worst anti-gay politicians in America to be his VP (who could potentially be POTUS) and has littered his Administration with bigots and fundies who would love nothing more than to take away gay rights. Not to mention picking two far right Justices who present a real threat to gay rights and Obergefell v Hodges.

A friend to the gay community he is not.

 

[pugsville]

Certainly. I'll even provide it from an anti-Trump source.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/thi...es-of-jobs-that-are-thriving-under-trump.html

In b4 no response.

Nothing specifically about coal miners, any gains in coal ,mining have been pretty modest


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...uggling-coal-industry-numbers-show/479587002/
http://fortune.com/2018/01/31/coal-mining-jobs-donald-trump-state-of-the-union/
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/23/5862...p-under-trump-but-not-because-of-his-policies
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...sh-stumbles-in-most-states-data-idUSKBN1F81AK
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...reat-coal-mining-jobs-boom-has-been-postponed
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...coal-mining-jobs-despite-claiming-have-751885
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/1/4/16848650/trump-coal-industry-2017
https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/10/news/companies/coal-mine-closing/index.html

 

[FireKrakouer]

Lol Trump picked one of the worst anti-gay politicians in America to be his VP (who could potentially be POTUS) and has littered his Administration with bigots and fundies who would love nothing more than to take away gay rights. Not to mention picking two far right Justices who present a real threat to gay rights and Obergefell v Hodges.

A friend to the gay community he is not.

Remind me who the first POTUS in history was to enter office with a pro-SSM platform? Who's first 3 employed cabinet members included a gay migrant?

If his VP is allegedly a homophobe, all the more reason to not impeach Trump.

 

[happy_eagle]

I don't believe Sarah Sanders has attacked anyone on this forum.

Neither has Hillary Clinton

 

[FireKrakouer]

Neither has Hillary Clinton

And have I attacked her appearance?

 

[happy_eagle]

And have I attacked her appearance?

Dunno, probably

 

[Moonwatcher]

 

[madmug]

Certainly. I'll even provide it from an anti-Trump source.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/thi...es-of-jobs-that-are-thriving-under-trump.html

In b4 no response.

13.5% increase in mining & logging jobs sounds really good.

in 1923 some 883,000 men worked in coal mining alone. In 2016 it was 50,000. Logging was about 66,000.

So How many jobs would make a 13.5% increase?

How many would that be out of a US workforce of some 160,000,000?

How many would be attributable to the recovering economy since the end of the GFC in 2008?

yep, 13.5% sounds real good.

 

[Poor Form]

Everything bad is Trumps fault, Everything good is remnants of Obama policy. As compared to Everything bad is Obama, Everything good is circumstance in the time before Trump. The funniest part to me is that you guys who are railing on everything about Trump probably used the second point to decry critics of Obama and are now using the first point to s**t on Trump.

Way i see it American economy is at record levels historic low unemployment particularly in minority groups, over 4% GDP growth trade wars which look to me to be an attempt to force free trade. I have to give credit to Trump I believe his combined policies on tax cuts and plans to reduce red tape have given a lot of confidence to business.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Socially messed up though. It’s been fairly noticeable over the past year or so when crossing the border. That’s Pacific-Northwest so obviously they aren’t big supporters. The economy isn’t their gripe against him.

 

[Chief]

over 4% GDP growth

Annualised.

It is following a long trend.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth/forecast

United States GDP Growth Rate - Forecast
GDP Growth Rate in the United States is expected to be 2.60 percent by the end of this quarter, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. Looking forward, we estimate GDP Growth Rate in the United States to stand at 2.60 in 12 months time. In the long-term, the United States GDP Growth Rate is projected to trend around 2.00 percent in 2020, according to our econometric models.

 

[Poor Form]

Annualised.

Yep that's fair we will have to wait longer to see the real results. But if he can keep 3% so above these forecast that would surely be a great success, i do still reckon that it is his policies which have motivated the increased growth.

Socially messed up though. It’s been fairly noticeable over the past year or so when crossing the border. That’s Pacific-Northwest so obviously they aren’t big supporters. The economy isn’t their gripe against him.

I don't think he has done to much socially to change anything much in the US, i'd say the media has a lot more to answer for whipping up a frenzy on issues that realistically would not even affect most people least of all any changes caused by Trump policy.

 

[Financialpanther]

Everything bad is Trumps fault, Everything good is remnants of Obama policy. As compared to Everything bad is Obama, Everything good is circumstance in the time before Trump. The funniest part to me is that you guys who are railing on everything about Trump probably used the second point to decry critics of Obama and are now using the first point to s**t on Trump.

Way i see it American economy is at record levels historic low unemployment particularly in minority groups, over 4% GDP growth trade wars which look to me to be an attempt to force free trade. I have to give credit to Trump I believe his combined policies on tax cuts and plans to reduce red tape have given a lot of confidence to business.

Trump should receive credit for not stuffing up the momentum yes, but the key barometer will be what impact the current trade matter will have. Plenty of risk but equally plenty of return if it works out. As noted below, socially and environmentally, not a good story to tell. If anything, he is (via his own sword) the biggest distraction to his own presidency.

 

[Chief]

Trump should receive credit for not stuffing up the momentum yes, but the key barometer will be what impact the current trade matter will have. Plenty of risk but equally plenty of return if it works out. As noted below, socially and environmentally, not a good story to tell. If anything, he is (via his own sword) the biggest distraction to his own presidency.

And the government debt from the tax cuts.

Many people were deriding Rudd for giving one-off tax rebates and accelerated depreciation to help business during the GFC. It got the nickname "Ruddy Money" in small business circles. Are we paying for this now?

 

[Financialpanther]

And the government debt from the tax cuts.

Yes as well as intentional policies of increased spending.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I don't think he has done to much socially to anything much in the US, i'd say the media has a lot more to answer for whipping up a frenzy on issues that realistically would not even affect most people least of all any changes caused by Trump policy.

Just distrust I think. He obviously doesn’t come across as the greatest bloke. Lots of stupid comments, instability with his staff, dodgy past etc. Maybe some farmers, but not really his key audience in this part of the world.

 

[Satan]

And the government debt from the tax cuts.

Many people were deriding Rudd for giving one-off tax rebates and accelerated depreciation to help business during the GFC. It got the nickname "Ruddy Money" in small business circles. Are we paying for this now?

Dead people , ex pats were happy

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...ead-Australians-get-900-stimulus-cheques.html

 

[Financialpanther]

Remind me who the first POTUS in history was to enter office with a pro-SSM platform? Who's first 3 employed cabinet members included a gay migrant?

If his VP is allegedly a homophobe, all the more reason to not impeach Trump.
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Remind me who was the POTUS to attempt to reinstate a ban on transgender in the military?

 

[madmug]

And the government debt from the tax cuts.

Many people were deriding Rudd for giving one-off tax rebates and accelerated depreciation to help business during the GFC. It got the nickname "Ruddy Money" in small business circles. Are we paying for this now?

Yes, at the time the bulk of economists seemed to support the idea of spending when the economy needs it, ie to avoid a huge & sudden economic low (job losses to affect families, small business bankruptcy & a slower than necessary recovery).

However, just giving a tax cut when an economy is improving & adding greatly to the huge national debt is quite a different thing. Its basically robbing the economy now & hoping it will get paid for by someone else in the future. In fact, if their is any sort of sudden shock to the economy ( like a taffif & trade war) the national economy will be less resilient in being able to take the impact.

Anyway, jus' sayin'.

 

[bourbons]

Stormy is a "model", it is her job to look attractive, and she used the Trump controversy to enrich herself by posing as a nude camgirl. I saw an ad, and commented that it was not to my taste.

Sanders is not a camgirl/prostitute, but is a high level US official. Her job isn't entirely based on appearance, like a pornstar's, so I feel that her physical appearance is irrelevant.

Why do you feel the need to frequently attack strong women?

Hahaha the mental contortionism required to have an issue with people commenting on a woman's appearance but not when Trump does it, **** me. Congrats FireQuora, thats olympic standard.

Funniest part is that no-one actually had a crack at Sanders' looks. Grumpy doesn't = ugly.

 

[shniko11]

Everything bad is Trumps fault, Everything good is remnants of Obama policy. As compared to Everything bad is Obama, Everything good is circumstance in the time before Trump. The funniest part to me is that you guys who are railing on everything about Trump probably used the second point to decry critics of Obama and are now using the first point to s**t on Trump.

Poor Form Nails it.

 

[Satan]

Too soon?