AFL Player 5: Elijah Tsatas

[Nuggs Bunny]

 

[Beerfish]

Delist and hurry up

 

[dank420_]

Keep delisting him

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

So we've got about 2 years to fix his tank and kicking.

It can be done.

How did we get to here.

 

[Beerfish]

So we've got about 2 years to fix his tank and kicking.

It can be done.

How did we get to here.

 

[Phone]

How did we get to here.

well it started when we hired hird. then during an injury plagued 2011, we installed a new fitness manager

anyway 34 players got banned for doping and we still didn't do a rebuild and still didn't sack the list manager and here we are

 

[Beerfish]

well it started when we hired hird. then during an injury plagued 2011, we installed a new fitness manager

anyway 34 players got banned for doping and we still didn't do a rebuild and still didn't sack the list manager

u typ gud

 

[Phone]

i had it locked and loaded tbf

 

[Keystone agony]

So the kick he slotted for a goal is the kick they have worked the most improved into . Manages to time it of the boot better.

Well they need to get new coaches if what your saying is true

 

[Keystone agony]

Would be a valid reason if it didn’t happen every time he played.

I’m not a believer in him at all, but if you’re going to play him give him a fair crack

Your absolutely spot on

Think i said 75% TOG and 70% CBAs needed

 

[Keystone agony]

Well he started on the bench and how long did it take for a goal ?
It is 100% valid. Runner can not get on the ground.

Runners very rarely run interchange swaps now

More often done by indications from the bench in numbers

 

[dondolla]

Runners very rarely run interchange swaps now

More often done by indications from the bench in numbers

The players know their rotations. For the mids it might be a rotation at three, six and nine minutes for example. The reason he would have such low % is because he doesn’t play anywhere else on the ground. Durham and Merrett will spend time in other areas which is how they get 80s%. With all the injuries though it suggests that he can’t run out games with more than what % he has. Even Setterfield got hurt in the last quarter so his % went up because he played 73%.

They do hold up the signs as well like you said and the runner would tell players if they’ve stayed on too long.

 

[Keystone agony]

The players know their rotations. For the mids it might be a rotation at three, six and nine minutes for example. The reason he would have such low % is because he doesn’t play anywhere else on the ground. Durham and Merrett will spend time in other areas which is how they get 80s%. With all the injuries though it suggests that he can’t run out games with more than what % he has. Even Setterfield got hurt in the last quarter so his % went up because he played 73%.

They do hold up the signs as well like you said and the runner would tell players if they’ve stayed on too long.

I dont know if every team does the set player to come off 1st, 2nd or 3rd....... so on

I know some do, but not sure all

Its more to do with him starting bench, then also having another spell off in the back end of each quarter. So 2 spells bench per qtr as opposed to 1 for the other mids like Durham, Caldwell, Zerrett, Setters

His tank is pretty avg, remember him coming dead last in the time trial when he arrived. He doesnt have that 8+ PS body/match fitness like Setters, Zerrett, Durham ect

But id like to see him push up to the 75-80% mark

 

[ant555]

Runners very rarely run interchange swaps now

More often done by indications from the bench in numbers

And when the play is continuous and no goals are being scored the rotations grind to a bit of a halt if the game is not on the interchange bench side. The runners actually mass more forward messages now days so the message would be more about reminder of next rotation in x time amongst other stuff.

 

[boncer34]

The players know their rotations. For the mids it might be a rotation at three, six and nine minutes for example. The reason he would have such low % is because he doesn’t play anywhere else on the ground. Durham and Merrett will spend time in other areas which is how they get 80s%. With all the injuries though it suggests that he can’t run out games with more than what % he has. Even Setterfield got hurt in the last quarter so his % went up because he played 73%.

They do hold up the signs as well like you said and the runner would tell players if they’ve stayed on too long.

This makes a lot of sense.

Otherwise Elijah was incredibly unlucky being the rotation unable to be completed all the time. Nobody else seemed to be repeatedly impacted by being unable to get on the ground when it was their turn.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

To me it seemed like they didn't want Tsatas and Setterfield in centre bounces together. Happened once in the third before Setterfield was injured...not that there were many CBA from lack of goals.

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

Surprise, surprise. Given a crack out of necessity rather than earning it, and he comes in to the seniors and keeps making the same mistakes. DE was at 58%. A lot of people stinking it up against the Tiges, but that was pretty much par for the course for Lij. Needs to fix it fast or he'll wash out of the AFL altogether.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Some good signs. The goal. Last qtr bursts from centre bounce after Goldy handball and sends a decent kick to ff where defender just did enough to spoil May.

 

[Petrify]

Didn't have a huge problem with his disposal. Did have a huge problem with his tank and efforts in the 4th quarter. Was bewildered that he was given such low ToG but even with his low ToG he clearly cannot run out an AFL game.

A little bit more faith that the coaches knew what they were doing leaving him out. He won't be a good AFL player ever if he can't run the entire game.

With his disposal his peak level player is a current Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

but Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

only is an effective player because he has one of the best tanks in the AFL.

 

[Petrify]

I actually want to know why he was drafted so highly. I said it in the first few pages of the thread immediately after he was drafted that his disposal looked bad and that was from his highlights.

If his disposal was bad, and his fitness was bad... why was he such a high pick? His explosiveness is decent but is that really enough to get you into top 5 in an otherwise good draft?

 

[MiguelM]

Didn't have a huge problem with his disposal. Did have a huge problem with his tank and efforts in the 4th quarter. Was bewildered that he was given such low ToG but even with his low ToG he clearly cannot run out an AFL game.

A little bit more faith that the coaches knew what they were doing leaving him out. He won't be a good AFL player ever if he can't run the entire game.

With his disposal his peak level player is a current Bailey Smith but Bailey Smith only is an effective player because he has one of the best tanks in the AFL.

Yes, very concerning.

But seems to be an issue with many of our players. Is it our conditioning program?

I keep hearing we have never trained harder but I keep seeing players walking around not getting to contests.

 

[MPMonkeys]

I actually want to know why he was drafted so highly. I said it in the first few pages of the thread immediately after he was drafted that his disposal looked bad and that was from his highlights.

If his disposal was bad, and his fitness was bad... why was he such a high pick? His explosiveness is decent but is that really enough to get you into top 5 in an otherwise good draft?

Most disposals for midfielders can look bad as they are constantly under pressure. It also goes the other way - you may have a kid whose disposal looks fantastic in juniors but when he plays AFL the game is quicker and all of a sudden his disposal looks terrible. In other words, its not an exact science.
You can look at ball drop, action etc but even that can be misleading. Hird's ball drop for example was not ideal.

I think explosiveness is a genuine trait to look for in a top 5 pick. That sort of thing can't be taught or hidden.

 

[BrunoV]

Agreed. I feel that much of his lack of defense comes from he low aerobic capacity and lack of leg speed.

He surfers a lot for being.a high draft imo but I do wonder how many good slow players are out there? I have similar feelings about Perkins. Just not quick enough to make it at afl level to my untrained eye.

Perkins has the opposite problem. If he had Tsatas' knack for finding the ball inside and read of the play you'd be looking at a premier mid in the competition because he has a rare athletic combination of explosive power and endurance.

 

[boncer34]

Yes, very concerning.

But seems to be an issue with many of our players. Is it our conditioning program?

I keep hearing we have never trained harder but I keep seeing players walking around not getting to contests.

Being better then utterly deplorable doesnt mean its good.

 

[doug85]

I actually want to know why he was drafted so highly. I said it in the first few pages of the thread immediately after he was drafted that his disposal looked bad and that was from his highlights.

If his disposal was bad, and his fitness was bad... why was he such a high pick? His explosiveness is decent but is that really enough to get you into top 5 in an otherwise good draft?

His disposal wasn’t identified as a major issue pre draft. He’d also had injuries as a junior so it was assumed his tank would improve in an AFL environment

 

[Yoda_]

if you Lij's 19 possessions from 63% time on ground is extrapolated, what does that equate to for 85% time on ground?


Utilising his strength is a must know by seasons end for Scott. He can clearly find the ball