60,000+ required R23 for Richmond to break HA record

[AstuteTiger]

I don’t share your view. Richmond are delivering maximum results in membership and attendances on the back of being the best team in the competition. 1.194M is evidence of this as is their 61.4K average.

It’s difficult to just use attendances and Membership alone as the only measuring tools as we are never comparing apples and apples. Before 2017, Richmond’s attendances we’re not to the level of an equally poor Essendon (2016** year aside). I could also argue that Richmond’s membership last year pre premiership was not as impressive as Essendon Membership this year.

On attendances, we now have away team replacement games and free kids entry pushing up attendances.. I argue these factors alone added another 5-7,000 to yesterday’s crowd alone. This wasn’t the case back in 1998 when the Dons drew 1.169M finishing 8th before going to Ethihad post premiership. That year Essendon played a game against the Dogs and Princess Park! There wasn’t away team replace the games or kids in free to drive up the crowd 10%. But yes, we didn’t have the new franchise clubs. Flipside we now have the SA / WA clubs playing at stadiums with 55-60K seats.

It’s difficult to compare but when you’re the premiers, you’re the blockbuster of the year and that’s obviously helped the Tigers interstate attendances this year. Along with a favourable afternoon timeslot that’s why 18,000 were at Metricon. Richmond don’t have the same national following as Essendon it Collingwood.

Maximum results we are just starting, we need a few other vic teams to join us like the pies had in 2010/2011 to maximize their overall aggregate.
Richmond hadn't won anything for 35 years and up until last year we had 72K thats monstrous.

kids dont drive up 10% just cause its free because nowadays most kids are signed up as members and just to reinforce this a few years back on a freo game we had 357 register for free entry its only worth a few hundred dont get blind sided by that. On your 1.169 as manic stated in the crowds thread you had a dream draw with 16 games at the G (and only travelled twice) do that with gc and gws and your average drops. You also didn’t have to content with LIVE against the gate.
We pulled in almost 1.2 mill with away games V GC and GWS. Yes Perth can off set a little and AO hardly at all with football parks capacity being 51,515 against AO 53,500

Anyway no point in going back and forth, it'll only end up going around circles, we all have our own views and perceptions!

 

[JohnZ]

To all of the people complaining about losing reserved seats on level 2a, this is why. Go MCC style and they'll be filled every week

 

[magpienato]

Can we just ban all the Richmond supporters off the main board? They do it to us on theirs, it's only fair.

 

[Bojangles17]

Can we just ban all the Richmond supporters off the main board? They do it to us on theirs, it's only fair.

Ohhh diddums poor widdle magpie , good luck with the return trip to Perth

 

[magpienato]

Ohhh diddums poor widdle magpie , good luck with the return trip to Perth

We don't need luck because unlike you lot we actually play well interstate.

 

[dave10]

Maximum results we are just starting, we need a few other vic teams to join us like the pies had in 2010/2011 to maximize their overall aggregate.
Richmond hadn't won anything for 35 years and up until last year we had 72K thats monstrous.

kids dont drive up 10% just cause its free because nowadays most kids are signed up as members and just to reinforce this a few years back on a freo game we had 357 register for free entry its only worth a few hundred dont get blind sided by that. On your 1.169 as manic stated in the crowds thread you had a dream draw with 16 games at the G (and only travelled twice) do that with gc and gws and your average drops. You also didn’t have to content with LIVE against the gate.
We pulled in almost 1.2 mill with away games V GC and GWS. Yes Perth can off set a little and AO hardly at all with football parks capacity being 51,515 against AO 53,500

Anyway no point in going back and forth, it'll only end up going around circles, we all have our own views and perceptions!

Anyway no point in going back and forth, it'll only end up going around circles, we all have our own views and perceptions!

We both agree on that!

 

[STFU Donnie]

Pisspoor effort at trolling. Thing of something better next time

I know you're only a Richmond supporter, but the word you seek is 'think'.

And take a look at the separation between the 'g' and the 'k' on your keyboard; you can't claim it as a typo. Just a stunning display of stupidity.

 

[TiggerMan22]

I know you're only a Richmond supporter, but the word you seek is 'think'.

Ooof, no comeback other than picking up on an auto correct mistake? Really struggling aren't you?

 

[Bojangles17]

Essendon didn’t play finals this year and drew more than last year... Despite the limitations of playing home games at Ethihad, they drew 1.026M for the year which in a non finals year is at least on a par with last years Pies year of 1.006M for the year. It just shows that there’s other factors at play and it’s never linear.

Essendon haven’t won a final since 2004 and this year had 80,000 members which pound for pound was arguably the highlight Membership result of the year (Richmond aside). We don’t play games in Tasmania so don’t have another market monopoly to drive up the figure. The membership exceeded the Pies by 5,000 and last years Richmond Membership by over 7,000. The momentum is there and you’d expect the club will be pushing for 85,000-90,000 next year as a and possibly emerge as the 2nd biggest membership in the competition. Then when in wins finals and then if it can win a premiership, it will convert its vast national following to membership and go past Richmond.. with good management so will Collingwood. The key metrics and indicators all support this view.

The Tigers result this year is outstanding given those with the key metrics know they’re not as big a club as Collingwood or Essendon.. But the Tigers have demonstrated their fans have been the most engaged, thanks to their passion and the clubs great executive who have been extremely successful in converting this to membership. This has led to the club hitting new heights in membership and delivered on attendances to the max. And a premiership certainly helps!

It’s a complex task comparing the size of clubs. Some are a better run than others which can distort the view. In my view, the Pies and Bombers are the largest clubs in the country. The Crows and Eagles the largest in thei states whilst Richmond are somewhere probably in the vicinity of the two big Vic clubs and the big interstaters. Then Carlton not far behind.

What are the key metrics and indicators that support that , I reviewed the 10 times dating back to 1921 that rfc and Coll had finished top 4 and in all but 3 occasions , ours attendances were greater. Talks cheap , numbers count , funny about that

 

[Bojangles17]

Does not matter in regards to whether Gold Coast or gws were in the competition! Collingwood still is the only club in draw over 1.2 million in a season and they have done this 5 times. Our last was in 2012 when the pies finished 4th and both Gold Coast and gws were in the competition! The last time we were minor premiers in 2011 we drew 1,269,000 during the home and away season and the in our premiership year in 2010 we drew 1,304,604 during the home and away season a afl record. Richmond’s attendance’s were good but for a club with over 100,000 Members they really should of smashed the all time attendance record and the all time home game attendance record but they could not top Collingwood’s 2010 and 2011 seasons and the tigers finished as minor premiers like Collingwood did in 2010 and 11

That’s because there were 2 fixtures gws and go that drew 31k between , that was not an issue in 2012 , instead games would have been local where we average 61k , therein would have been additional 100,000 that’s simple , anyone could appreciate that

 

[Bojangles17]

We don't need luck because unlike you lot we actually play well interstate.

Sorry , against top 8 sides , expect a little more stick from wc than freo

 

[magpienato]

Sorry , against top 8 sides , expect a little more stick from wc than freo

It's alright I'm not that nervous going to WA. We've done well there before and we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. You lot have everything to lose.

 

[Bojangles17]

It's alright I'm not that nervous going to WA. We've done well there before and we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. You lot have everything to lose.

Same as our opponent , spot in the pre lim , that bluster fools no one

 

[gopies1981]

That’s because there were 2 fixtures gws and go that drew 31k between , that was not an issue in 2012 , instead games would have been local where we average 61k , therein would have been additional 100,000 that’s simple , anyone could appreciate that

Lol stop your guess work!!! You guys are still not as big as Collingwood deal with it

 

[gopies1981]

I don’t share your view. Richmond are delivering maximum results in membership and attendances on the back of being the best team in the competition. 1.194M is evidence of this as is their 61.4K average.

It’s difficult to just use attendances and Membership alone as the only measuring tools as we are never comparing apples and apples. Before 2017, Richmond’s attendances we’re not to the level of an equally poor Essendon (2016** year aside). I could also argue that Richmond’s membership last year pre premiership was not as impressive as Essendon Membership this year.

On attendances, we now have away team replacement games and free kids entry pushing up attendances.. I argue these factors alone added another 5-7,000 to yesterday’s crowd alone. This wasn’t the case back in 1998 when the Dons drew 1.169M finishing 8th before going to Ethihad post premiership. That year Essendon played a game against the Dogs and Princess Park! There wasn’t away team replace the games or kids in free to drive up the crowd 10%. But yes, we didn’t have the new franchise clubs. Flipside we now have the SA / WA clubs playing at stadiums with 55-60K seats.

It’s difficult to compare but when you’re the premiers, you’re the blockbuster of the year and that’s obviously helped the Tigers interstate attendances this year. Along with a favourable afternoon timeslot that’s why 18,000 were at Metricon. Richmond don’t have the same national following as Essendon it Collingwood.

In 2008 Collingwood finished 8th with 12 wins drew 1,248,000 fans was more impressive then Essendon drawing 1.169,000! That year Essendon only travelled twice and played 16 games at the mcg.

Even tho I agree with the majority of what you said especially with Essendon and Collingwood being far bigger on social media the Richmond. Even in terms of latent support hawthorn are not that fair behind. Richmond who actually believe they are the big one is hilarious. If they were really the big won they why did the only draw the 6th biggest of all time home and away attendance record! The top 5 are held by Collingwood. Essendon playing at Etihad does restrict their attendance’s by say 50-70,000 per year but even at the peak of 1999-2001 they could not draw as big of crowds Collingwood were getting from 2007-12

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Missed it sorry, did they end up breaking the "record"??

 

[gopies1981]

Missed it sorry, did they end up breaking the "record"??

Lol no!! But the ended up being 6th of all time. Bet you’ll never guess which club hold the top 5 positions?

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Lol no!! But the ended up being 6th of all time. Bet you’ll never guess which club hold the top 5 positions?

Ohhh thats a shame. Surely it would be the biggest club in Australia, Richmond?????

 

[gopies1981]

Ohhh thats a shame. Surely it would be the biggest club in Australia, Richmond?????

No it was not sadly!

But Collingwood on the other hand well that is a totally different story

 

[Bazzar]

Missed it sorry, did they end up breaking the "record"??

I love your sig... lol

1902, 1903, 1910, 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, ....... 1953, 1958, 1990, 2010

Great years for the Pies before the second world war, shame about the ordinary effort post 1937

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

I love your sig... lol

1902, 1903, 1910, 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, ....... 1953, 1958, 1990, 2010

Great years for the Pies before the second world war, shame about the ordinary effort post 1937

You do realise Richmond has won 1 flag in 37 years, and the Pies have won 4 flags since 1937.

That means in the period you claim to be an "ordinary effort" we have nearly double the strike rate of premierships as Richmond over the last 37 years....

1 Flag every 20 years > 1 Flag in 37 years.

Maths hurts, i know mate.

 

[Craze]

I love your sig... lol

1902, 1903, 1910, 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, ....... 1953, 1958, 1990, 2010

Great years for the Pies before the second world war, shame about the ordinary effort post 1937

You know Bazz that if (and it's a big if) Richmond win the flag this year, that in the last 2 years, we'll have won the same number of premierships that Collingwood have won since ... 1959

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

You know Bazz that if (and it's a big if) Richmond win the flag this year, that in the last 2 years, they'll have won the same number of premierships that Collingwood have won since ... 1959

1 Flag every 20 years > 1 Flag in 37 years

 

[Bazzar]

You do realise Richmond has won 1 flag in 37 years, and the Pies have won 4 flags since 1937.

That means in the period you claim to be an "ordinary effort" we have nearly double the strike rate of premierships as Richmond over the last 37 years....

1 Flag every 20 years > 1 Flag in 37 years.

Maths hurts, i know mate.

Would rather 67, 69, 73, 74, 80, 2018, than 1953, 1958, 1990, 2010 .
Funny how you think you're the biggest club. Biggest sporting fraud more like it.

 

[Craze]

1 Flag every 20 years > 1 Flag in 37 years

Cool.

Would you agree that 6 flags since 1967 (1967, 1969, 1973, 1974, 1980, 2017) is better than 2 (1990 and 2010)?