Player Watch #7: Jack Ziebell [Part II] - ©

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Devington

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Over the course of his career his biggest issues have consistently been leg speed and endurance. The last couple of years he's also added kicking skills to the list of issues he has. The game isn't getting any slower nor Jack any younger. You don't magically keep your fitness base when you have soft tissue injuries to your legs either.

By the time he's healed from this injury, the third leg injury in a year, he's still going to be behind the eightball fitness wise, and he wouldn't have had any time or ability to work on his kicking. I think he's cooked tbh, for this year at the very least. Hard to see a future where he gets back to anywhere near his best.

Just don't know where we go from here. Absolute campaigner of a situation to have our captain be in, exacerbated by the fact I'm not entirely sure I trust him to make accurate calls considering his decisions regarding his fitness to play etc so far this year.
 

tales129

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Over the course of his career his biggest issues have consistently been leg speed and endurance. The last couple of years he's also added kicking skills to the list of issues he has. The game isn't getting any slower nor Jack any younger. You don't magically keep your fitness base when you have soft tissue injuries to your legs either.

By the time he's healed from this injury, the third leg injury in a year, he's still going to be behind the eightball fitness wise, and he wouldn't have had any time or ability to work on his kicking. I think he's cooked tbh, for this year at the very least. Hard to see a future where he gets back to anywhere near his best.

Just don't know where we go from here. Absolute campaigner of a situation to have our captain be in, exacerbated by the fact I'm not entirely sure I trust him to make accurate calls considering his decisions regarding his fitness to play etc so far this year.
He’s actively put himself at stoppages after tweaking an ankle. It’s not on your shoulders to make moves like that Ziebs.

forward pocket and that’s it for me now, if he can’t present or kick true he sits in the twos and Tarrant can be skipper before handing it to Simpkin in 2 years time
 

marklovesbeer

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Not personally suggesting he should be dropped, but a lot of the chat around here the past few days has me racking my brains to think of a time when a captain has been dropped due to poor form - North Melbourne or another club.

Can anybody recall such times?
 

blackshadow

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One of the saddest things I noticed on Sunday night was a passage of play where it looked like the Hawks deliberately left Jack open to receive the ball and then waited for him to kick it back to them. It worked a treat for them.
 

LuvtheKangas

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Mar 11, 2006
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They are just back from a near 3 month break all the time in the world to get himself right.... got the knee back working not sure if any head work...


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Even if he was 100% fit going into Sunday's game, he injured both his ankle and his hamstring during the game. The 3 month break is not relevant.
 

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Snake_Baker

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Not personally suggesting he should be dropped, but a lot of the chat around here the past few days has me racking my brains to think of a time when a captain has been dropped due to poor form - North Melbourne or another club.

Can anybody recall such times?
Jack needs the midfield functioning well to cash in as a forward.
 

Shermanator

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JZ has been playing injured since the return and thats magnifying his agility flaws now.

I feel the rushed (throw it on the boot) kicks are stats padding because no one will just focus on his injury problems if he ends up with 20 touches, most will feel he’s done his job. The problem he has now is that he’s second to the ball and can’t get a touch, so we really notice how much he’s struggling.

Saying that, the guy is an absolute warrior of the NMFC, he’s won us more games than he’s lost and he has a truckload of credits in the bank.

As much as this will hurt him, the time is right to hand over the reigns and focus solely on himself not everyone else too. He needs to take extended time to heal his body, get some kms in the legs and focus on sharpening his skills again.

No matter what the future holds nothing will change my love for this bloke and the way he’s sacrificed his body for the sake of my club for many years and hopefully in the future.
 

Billy Not Really

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Needs to re-invent himself and completely change the way he plays, in addition to dominant playing 1 position and 1 position only, not the entire bloody ground if he has any hope to continue his career into his 30's.

That journey doesn't start as long the responsibilities and duties as captain hang over him, for that alone he'll continue to get selected regardless of form and that's not in the best interests of the club.
 

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