2nds AFC 2022 SANFL Thread

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

You'd have to ask Hamish and list management why but I can certainly see why they went the way they did securing both the player they targeted and Pick 9 in the following year's draft as it turned out.

Pretty good deal on paper Pick 4 2019 for 2019 Pick 6 and 2020 pick 9...I think most clubs would jump at that if they thought they would still get the player they wanted in 2019.

I guess they could have chosen Dylan Stephens curently playing VFL instead the other player we were strongly linked to?
Of course that would have meant foregoing a top 10 pick in the 2020 draft.

Weren’t we heavily linked with Sam Flanders?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'm sure it was given you are arguing we should have increase his 2 years offer to 4 years, hence list management for a list in a full rebuild after 2019. So give credit to the Bulldogs for improving Keath as a defender then.

So you give credit to the Bulldogs for our list management stuff up.

Yet another apologist who wouldn't know if his own arse was on fire.

 

[ABAB]

We offered him 2 years right? Why would we have offered him anything if we were going through a rebuild?

What's your point? You are disputing we were in a full list rebuild after 2019? Offering 2 years gives us more flexibility and option into the rebuild.....this is called list management.

 

[ABAB]

So you give credit to the Bulldogs for our list management stuff up.

Yet another apologist who wouldn't know if his own arse was on fire.

No, for improving his one on one defending.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No, for improving his one on one defending.

It was fine before he left!

Often he wasn't 1 on 1 because he usually reads the ball better than his opponent...which i posted when he was a Crow.

 

[ABAB]

It was fine before he left!

Like I said, lucky you weren't our decision maker on Keath...lol.

 

[Velvet George]

What's your point? You are disputing we were in a full list rebuild after 2019? Offering 2 years gives us more flexibility and option into the rebuild.....this is called list management.

My point is you said we didn’t need him as we were going through a rebuild and we already had Talia, plus we had Hartigan who you missed. So why offer Keath 2 years, that would have made 3 senior key defenders all wanting game time. Contradicts a rebuild, no?

 

[ABAB]

My point is you said we didn’t need him as we were going through a rebuild and we already had Talia, plus we had Hartigan who you missed. So why offer Keath 2 years, that would have made 3 senior key defenders all wanting game time. Contradicts a rebuild, no?

No, as all decision made after 2019 was for a rebuild so what contradiction? We offered him 2 years to give us more flexibility in a rebuild. If we were in finals and especially premiership contention we would have offered him and Greenwood both 4 years.

 

[Velvet George]

No, as all decision made after 2019 was for a rebuild so what contradiction? We offered him 2 years to give us more flexibility in a rebuild. If we were in finals and especially premiership contention we would have offered him and Greenwood both 4 years.

What flexibility?

 

[ABAB]

What flexibility?

We don't offer him a contract after the 2 years as Butts start to show something.....you really lack basic football knowledge

 

[Velvet George]

We don't offer him a contract after the 2 years as Butts start to show something.....you really lack basic football knowledge

First off Butts was drafted after we got rid of Keath. Secondly we already had Talia and Hartigan. Why would we need 3 experienced KPD in a rebuild?

And for all other posters, apologies.

 

[ABAB]

First off Butts was drafted after we got rid of Keath. Secondly we already had Talia and Hartigan. Why would we need 3 experienced KPD in a rebuild?

And for all other posters, apologies.

Flexibility so we don't get locked into Talia and Keath for 4 years and Hartigan are you serious that you even thought he was part of our future in a rebuild (didn't we offer him only 1 year knowing he was going to leave?)....

 

[Mutineer]

First off Butts was drafted after we got rid of Keath. Secondly we already had Talia and Hartigan. Why would we need 3 experienced KPD in a rebuild?

And for all other posters, apologies.

Nope we rookied Butts in the 2018 rookie draft, Keath was traded at the end of the 2019 season.

Couldn't let that go without correcting it.

 

[Velvet George]

Nope we rookied Butts in the 2018 rookie draft, Keath was traded at the end of the 2019 season.

Couldn't let that go without correcting it.

Stand corrected

 

[jackster83]

We have lacked mid aged players & been lucky to find Keays... but we basically gave away 2 players cheaply who would have been good support for our rebuild.

Salary cap isn't the issue as we have plenty spare.

It's just poor list management.

At the time our cap space was maxed out. Roo and Chapman both confirmed this.

We thought we were in a flag push, so Keath and Greenwood made a lot of sense when we picked them up in 2015.

 

[AFC979810]

A funny coincidence that last week both our AFL and SANFL teams played the Tigers and this week both teams play the Doggies
If you want to watch all our 1st and 2nd rounders play, watch the sanfl

Bold call. Nicksy swinging the axe this week?

Rachele, McHenry, Jones, Cook & Berry all dropped.

 

[Mego Red]

It was fine before he left!

Often he wasn't 1 on 1 because he usually reads the ball better than his opponent...which i posted when he was a Crow.

Hold on - you can believe we should have kept more senior players heading into a rebuild, but don't change history about what Keath was offering.

He'd had a good year as the Doedee replacement. He'd also had some really rough stats with 1-on-1 contests. My memory is he was one of the worst in the league.

He's improved some of that with the Bulldogs, and good on him for it.

 

[dogs105]

Same height as Ben Rutten, though forwards seem to be taller these days.

2cm on Mark Stevens.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Hold on - you can believe we should have kept more senior players heading into a rebuild, but don't change history about what Keath was offering.

He'd had a good year as the Doedee replacement. He'd also had some really rough stats with 1-on-1 contests. My memory is he was one of the worst in the league.

He's improved some of that with the Bulldogs, and good on him for it.

We should have kept the right mix of players around for the rebuild - obviously not all!

I'm not changing my history on Keath as I & many others mentioned at the time he was leaving the club should have kept him. I also mentioned at the time he gets plenty of intercept marks because he reads the ball usually better than his opponent.

Simple question - would Keath be handy in our backline to support the younger players?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I think we were comfortable moving Keath on because we had Talia as our rock down back. Plus at that stage still had Hartigan. Didn't want two older talls during a rebuild with another older player as back up.

We assumed Talia would be there while the younger players developed around him.

Hasn't worked out so now we're shuffling through a few options

 

[beartoo]

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[chazwazza]

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Yes.
Power Reserves haven’t won a game

 

[Mutineer]

Weren’t we heavily linked with Sam Flanders?

Maybe, can't say I recall it though.

 

[ABAB]

We should have kept the right mix of players around for the rebuild - obviously not all!

I'm not changing my history on Keath as I & many others mentioned at the time he was leaving the club should have kept him. I also mentioned at the time he gets plenty of intercept marks because he reads the ball usually better than his opponent.

Simple question - would Keath be handy in our backline to support the younger players?

We did try to keep him by prioritising him over Greenwood of the 27-28+ years old and offered him 2 years which was the right contract length given we planned the list for Talia to play for another 4 years. There was no way we would have offered him the 4 years he wanted, he didn't have the status of Sloane or Laird or even B.Crouch and sure he would be handy right now given what happened to Talia. But if Talia didn't have a career ending injury and Keath was still a regular in the side, I doubt we would have seen the big improvement of Butts in recent years.

Name names, who was willing to give Keath a 4 year contract especially in a full list rebuild......clearly they don't even have basic football knowledge.

 

[Vader]

Trading Keath was the right decision, based on his demands, and where the team list was at at the time.

Trading Keath for a used packet of chips, on the other hand...