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Are Led Zeppelin over hyped?

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I rate a band on their music, and Led Zeppelin simply rocked. Led Zeppelin I blew me away when I first bought it over 5 years ago and I still listen to it very often. Overrated? Hardly. If anything they are underrated due to their general negativity to the press over their early years (especially rolling stone magazine).
 
Your poor yungens. I remember when Physical Graffiti came out. I love Zep but it gets a bit over the top when a band ceases to be loved for its music and starts to be worshipped like a religion - that is when it starts to be overhyped.
 
Papa G said:
Disagree - Physical Graffiti is an awesome album. Even Presence and In through the Outdoor have their moments, although the bad does outweigh the good.

If your talking average lyrics, I give you: Yellow Submarine, Hello Goodbye, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da and I am the Walrus for starters.

If you think Plants vocals are annoying, you obviously just don't like Led Zeppelin.
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You are a Zep worshipper, for the average fan of just music in general Physical Graffiti isn't that great a listen.

It's a monument to them becoming nothing more than a generic metal band.

Page's overuse of distortion and power cords makes him sound like a bad parody of Pete Townshend.

As for the Beatles consider this.

Physical Graffiti was LZ 6th album, and for mine they were in a creative decline.

The Beatles on the other hand came out with Rubber Soul as their 6th album and were still on a creative upturn with arguably their best work still to come.

And that's why they surpass LZ easily for being considered the greatest band ever because LZ for all their talent, only had so much creativity in their system.

And once they used up other artists riffs and ideas early on and eventually had to rely on their own talents it soon dried up quickly.
 
FIGJAM said:
I'm interested to see what defines "filler" from Led Zep II to Houses of the Holy.

Physical has some tracks which are ho hum, and it could have comprised a frighteningly brilliant single album, although some obscure, yet brilliant, numbers would have been lost. LZI has a few covers as filler, but the standout Zep songs broke them into superstardom, and rightly so.

Houses is my favourite album. Some would consider it to be weak, as it doesn't contain many, if any, regular rock or pop tracks. for mine, that's part of its appeal and it is from a musicianship perspective, absolutely ****en awesome. LZIII might have some similar detractors, but like Houses, it's probably due to that person's desire more accessible music.

In closing, they aren't flawless. No band's catalogue is. But then there are **** all bands who's first six albums are considered essentials either.

They are a freak of nature and are the greatest rock and roll band of all time. Discuss!
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Testify, brother Jam.

Houses is my fav too.
 

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It's your thread so I guess you're allowed to state your opinions as if they're fact.

For mine, the fourth album is one of the greatest albums I'm ever likely to hear. I discovered it at a time when I was blossoming musically, spiritually, emotionally and it is for this reason it will always be (to me) an all time, all killer, no filler, rock and roll classic.

As with so many bands, I get the feeling that this was the album they were meant to make and all preceding work was the lead up to it.

Are they overhyped? Well, as most of their hype comes from that one album and that song, maybe they are.
 

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I think they deserve to be in the top few greatest bands of all time. I still love to listen to their first 3 albums but after LZ 4 I didn't like that much of their stuff. Bits of Physical Graffiti and Dazed and Confused off The Song Remains The Same were about it for me. I agree Planty can be annoying when he improvises on some live songs but not that his *voice* is annoying as such.

Lack of acknowledgement of sources of music they used was not great but doesn't detract from my enjoying their music - makes it more interesting if anything and led to discovering and enjoying some of the originals.

Thanks for pointing out that 'Thank You' is filler though - I always thought it was a pretty good track.

:p
 
Really, it's no different to anyone else posting a thread titled 'are (insert band/artist here) overhyped?'. I've been involved in discussions about this exact same thing with the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, the Doors, Nirvana, Radiohead, Oasis, you name it.

It's totally irrelevant anyway, we all know the most overhyped band of all time is Queen.
 
diablo14 said:
Really, it's no different to anyone else posting a thread titled 'are (insert band/artist here) overhyped?'. I've been involved in discussions about this exact same thing with the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, the Doors, Nirvana, Radiohead, Oasis, you name it.

It's totally irrelevant anyway, we all know the most overhyped band of all time is Queen.
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Nirvana (though I like them) Oasis and especially Radiohead should not even be used in the same paragraph let alone sentence as the others you have listed above.
 
Papa G said:
Nirvana (though I like them) Oasis and especially Radiohead should not even be used in the same paragraph let alone sentence as the others you have listed above.
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I'm merely bringing them up as bands i've discussed in relation to the topic of being over hyped. I didn't say I liked any or all of the bands, nor do I think they are all of equal music standing. Again tho, there are some who do.
 
Binxy said:
It's your thread so I guess you're allowed to state your opinions as if they're fact.

For mine, the fourth album is one of the greatest albums I'm ever likely to hear. I discovered it at a time when I was blossoming musically, spiritually, emotionally and it is for this reason it will always be (to me) an all time, all killer, no filler, rock and roll classic.

As with so many bands, I get the feeling that this was the album they were meant to make and all preceding work was the lead up to it.

Are they overhyped? Well, as most of their hype comes from that one album and that song, maybe they are.
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And that's my point.

Iv'e never stated i don't rate them as "one" of the best, but i feel they are often awarded too much credit in some areas even though they did blatantly rip alot of material and also for the fact they aren't strong lyricists.

Surely for a band to be rated the best, or in the least in the top few bands you need to show a talent for writing music far above the pack, and for mine they didn't show they had a huge amount of talent in this area.

While this may cause more debate, Stairway to heaven is an oustanding song, the lyrics really aren't that outstanding.

And i think that's where LZ fall down as a band when compared to the other truly great bands.
 

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evo said:
Why do i get the feeling this is leading to the exaltation of The Kinks.

:p
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Haha :D

Well the Kinks(I should say one R.Davies) blow LZ away for song writing, but for musicians LZ blow the Kinks away even though they were good musos.

But no i'm not going to turn this into a Kinks thread :p

It's about discussing the pros and cons of why LZ could possibly considered overhyped.
 
Stairway is definately over hyped.It's not even a particularly good song.And the fact we've all heard it 10,000 bloody times relegates it to the garbage bin of over exposed rubbish in the Khe San,Bohemian Rhapsody,Beds are Burning,Land Downunder etc class.

The rest of Led Zepplin are rated about right-in my view anyway.(then again I'm biased)

I don't see that song writing innovation in each and every track has much relevance-accross LZ entire portfolio they were highly innovative.

Hendrix cover of Like a Rolling Stone is brilliant.I guess he must be over hyped as an inovator too.Eric Burdon did Ring of Fire,must be over hyped.etc..
 
evo said:
Furthermore,I'm sure your aware ASMS,Page was not just a session guitarist turned band guitarist he was also one of the most innovative sound engineers of his era with use of placement of michophones,reverse echo etc.
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This is the sort of thing I was alluding to earlier. It's no surprise the Led Zeppelin sound is one that many MANY bands have attempted to make a career out of, with varying degrees of success.
 
evo said:
Stairway is definately over hyped.It's not even a particularly good song.And the fact we've all heard it 10,000 bloody times relegates it to the garbage bin of over exposed rubbish in the Khe San,Bohemian Rhapsody,Beds are Burning,Land Downunder etc class.

The rest of Led Zepplin are rated about right-in my view anyway.(then again I'm biased)

I don't see that song writing innovation in each and every track has much relevance-accross LZ entire portfolio they were highly innovative.

Hendrix cover of Like a Rolling Stone is brilliant.I guess he must be over hyped as an inovator too.Eric Burdon did Ring of Fire,must be over hyped.etc..
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I don't think it has to do so much with the song wiriting inovation as such, more that LZ imo wrote more than a few nonsensical songs.

But of couse i grant it that they were a band about the sound more so than the story being told.

As for Hendrix, does anyone really make not of his writing or arranging skills?
He's just enormous because of his guitar reputation and most people don't even look into the other areas when they rate him.

Maybe we should ;)
 

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