Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Evolved1]

Fishing? more like destroying your argument, if i can go to heaven without accepting Christ, it makes 14:6 totally irrelevant. I can go to heaven without the Christ. Checkmate.

Heaven sounds like an awful place. The only thing worse than Christian Heaven is the Muslim version where you get stuck with all of the virgins nobody wanted to **** on Earth.

 

[Gethelred]

We are here to discuss your spiritual issues, not mine.

We're clearly not here for you to answer questions.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Where do you think John originated?
Lennon?
F. Kennedy?

Not in the Middle East, your Anglophilia of ancient Hebrew names is ridiculous, let’s look at the “Jesus”, it simply doesn’t exist in Aramaic.
What the **** was your boys real name?

 

[Evolved1]

???

They're words on a page, capable of being understood and interpreted as written. Your complaint is with what's written, not me; take it up with the bloke upstairs. Meanwhile, you just keep obfuscating like crazy, hoping desperately that no-one'll notice how much you're struggling. As for my supposed arrogance and self righteousness, that is downright amusing coming from you. Did not Jesus himself say, "He without sin cast the first stone"?

Perhaps before you start insisting that I check my self righteousness at the door, consider getting your house in order first, hmm?

You come across as reasonably humble, which is quite a feat for a Carlton supporter.

 

[Vdubs]

???

They're words on a page, capable of being understood and interpreted as written. Your complaint is with what's written, not me; take it up with the bloke upstairs. Meanwhile, you just keep obfuscating like crazy, hoping desperately that no-one'll notice how much you're struggling. As for my supposed arrogance and self righteousness, that is downright amusing coming from you. Did not Jesus himself say, "He without sin cast the first stone"?

Perhaps before you start insisting that I check my self righteousness at the door, consider getting your house in order first, hmm?

Glad to have been some amusement for you.
Where were we at?
If I was struggling, do you think i'd keep replying to my alerts?

 

[Gethelred]

Glad to have been some amusement for you.
Where were we at?
If I was struggling, do you think i'd keep replying to my alerts?

Yes, because you're desperate to be thought of as wise and well tempered, to have all the answers, to be seen believing as publicly as possible in an online space. You came back into this thread for a reason, and (going from your behaviour once back) it isn't to answer questions.

You're stonewalling, and you're lashing out.

 

[Gethelred]

You come across as reasonably humble, which is quite a feat for a Carlton supporter.

And you can take a joke, which is mindblowing in an Essendon supporter.

 

[Vdubs]

We're clearly not here for you to answer questions.

I came here to answer questions and did so early on. Now it's clear you don't have genuine questions. That is all. If I have nothing worthwhile saying, I won't.

 

[Gethelred]

I came here to answer questions and did so early on. Now it's clear you don't have genuine questions. That is all. If I have nothing worthwhile saying, I won't.

... you don't think the question posed by Boston Tiger's post is legitimate? Or concerning, via implication?

 

[Evolved1]

Glad to have been some amusement for you.
Where were we at?
If I was struggling, do you think i'd keep replying to my alerts?

I presume you're a masochist. No judgement from me.

 

[Vdubs]

Yes, because you're desperate to be thought of as wise and well tempered, to have all the answers, to be seen believing as publicly as possible in an online space. You came back into this thread for a reason, and (going from your behaviour once back) it isn't to answer questions.

You're stonewalling, and you're lashing out.

Here we go again.
My conscience is clear.
Time for sleep.

 

[Total Power]

We are winning here. You at least believe in heaven, and the Pope.

Logic is lost in you. The reason why i quote the Pope, is logic, reasoning, history and science won't work with you lot, the only way to show you are wrong is to quote your kinds and show where the conflict is. I tried every possible way but no other way is acceptable to you, outside of the Bible cause you are convinced you are right and you are blind to actual evidence, so i am giving you a taste of other fundies who share your religion. So if i can go to heaven without following your cult, what value does 14:6 hold?

Anyway can you answer the question for a change? yet again you claim you know more than the Pope? What if the heaven is a Muslim one? or a hindu one? or a Buddhist one?

your interpretation of 14:6 is wrong, if the way to heaven can be without Jesus. Whether i have won/lost is irrelevent, you certainly have lost with your supremacist attitude.

 

[Total Power]

I have already replied to this.

can you reply again? yes or no will do. Not 'contextual' , Do you think this verse is outdated and should NOT be followed in 2020? no ifs and buts or something, you said scripture is the start and end of it and yet you don't think you are a fundamentalist? yes or no will be suffice.

 

[Total Power]

Heaven sounds like an awful place. The only thing worse than Christian Heaven is the Muslim version where you get stuck with all of the virgins nobody wanted to fu** on Earth.

What happens is Vdubs is sent to the Muslim heaven?

 

[Total Power]

Here we go again.
My conscience is clear.
Time for sleep.

Start answering questions then.

 

[mcnulty]

Start answering questions then.

All a bit heated in here. Think we need to all step back and quietly reflect on the miracle of Christmas.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Is there a difference between a cross and a crucifix?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Is there a difference between a cross and a crucifix?

I think one burns Vampires and the other burns those of the Jewish Faith.....so, ahh, no

 

[Vdubs]

Pope says you don't need to be Christian to go to heaven. I assume you know more about Christianity than the Pope?

Cherry picking verses will not help you this time. Answer our questions.

According to you

 

[Total Power]

According to you

LOL...you are in denial.

Do Atheists go to Heaven? Pope Francis says yes

The idea that all people are children of God means that all people will ultimately be saved, thus blurring the distinction between nature and grace, between being a created person and being a saved person.

evangelicalfocus.com

Pope tells atheists: You don't have to believe in God to go to heaven

In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

www.independent.co.uk

Just 'follow' your conscience. LOL...you are in deep trouble my friend in regards to 14:6

 

[Vdubs]

LOL...you are in denial.

Do Atheists go to Heaven? Pope Francis says yes

The idea that all people are children of God means that all people will ultimately be saved, thus blurring the distinction between nature and grace, between being a created person and being a saved person.

evangelicalfocus.com

Pope tells atheists: You don't have to believe in God to go to heaven

In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

www.independent.co.uk

Just 'follow' your conscience. LOL...you are in deep trouble my friend in regards to 14:6

Time will tell.
My conscience is clear with reliance on God's word.

 

[Total Power]

Time will tell.
My conscience is clear with reliance on God's word.

Pope >>>>>>> you. You are no authority on Christian teachings, Pope is.

Get a motherload of that. You don't even have your own people on your side lol

 

[Vdubs]

Pope >>>>>>> you. You are no authority on Christian teachings, Pope is.

Get a motherload of that. You don't even have your own people on your side lol

Catholics comprise 50% of the world's Christian population.

 

[Total Power]

Catholics comprise 50% of the world's Christian population.

So the largest Christiian sect out there? how many born agains?

 

[Vdubs]

So the largest Christiian sect out there? how many born agains?

More and more Catholics identifying as “born-again”

Born-again Catholics on rise.

aleteia.org