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RUOK?Why did god create cancer, malaria, alzheimers, MS, MND, parkinsons, CAD etc?
I don't how anyone can simultaneously espouse and laud the 'scientific process' yet fully advocate the existence of their god and keep a straight face. Must be some interesting mental gymnastics going on there?
Not so.This is complete and utter rubbish.
""He did. All things. But man's selfishness and moral choices has allowed viruses, which are normally a natural entity that allows life to flourish, to become dangerous-the cause is a basic disconnect.
Viruses vary considerably in their ability to cause disease. Many known viruses are not associated with disease at all. Others cause mild symptoms that may often go undetected. Some, like the HIV virus that causes AIDS in people, appear to have come from another species where they do not cause disease. Given our current knowledge of viruses, it is quite reasonable to believe that disease-causing viruses are descended from viruses that were once not harmful.
It has been suggested that they have played an important role in maintaining life on Earth—somewhat similar to the way bacteria do
Atheists don’t have the capacity to comprehend a concept of God so I think they try and marry it with science some how. Like your self.
That is one way of viewing the world, i suppose, not a very good way, but it’s a way.He did. All things. But man's selfishness and moral choices has allowed viruses, which are normally a natural entity that allows life to flourish, to become dangerous-the cause is a basic disconnect. Our selfishness leads to things going wrong in the environment. God has allowed this to continue on, but free will and our capacity to do what we do, means God will not necessarily step in. He has given men and women the intelligence to help us through the pandemics by our ability to produce vaccines.. My question was about the often reported Chinese influence on Covid 19, but that is mischievous.
God allowing pandemics, and all other forms of pain and suffering, alerts us to danger, and tests our character. We find out who we are at times of extreme pain and suffering. At times like that, people can discover the sufficiency of God.
He certainly allows this fallen race to be subjected to them. Scientific, technological, engineering etc progress has been stunning in many areas, but it can come at a cost. There is no doubt about that.
He did. All things. But man's selfishness and moral choices has allowed viruses, which are normally a natural entity that allows life to flourish, to become dangerous-the cause is a basic disconnect. Our selfishness leads to things going wrong in the environment. God has allowed this to continue on, but free will and our capacity to do what we do, means God will not necessarily step in. He has given men and women the intelligence to help us through the pandemics by our ability to produce vaccines.. My question was about the often reported Chinese influence on Covid 19, but that is mischievous.
God allowing pandemics, and all other forms of pain and suffering, alerts us to danger, and tests our character. We find out who we are at times of extreme pain and suffering. At times like that, people can discover the sufficiency of God.
not on current evidence
RUOK?
You asked that question last week!
Its a simple question.
Your god could fix that in one secondAtheists don’t have the capacity to comprehend a concept of God so I think they try and marry it with science some how. Like your self.
Your god could fix that in one second
Just show up and Atheism is dead
A concept? Sure.
Reality? No.
The only evidence you - or any other devoutly religiously person - can provide is that which is based on belief and/or faith. And that's fine, but belief and faith are not facts, nor are they scientific.
Hence my point - those who proclaim the existence of their god can not also claim to be about hard evidence and facts.
Over and above all of that, the real tragedy is that so much of our society as we know it is based on a complete crock of sh*t. As time goes on, I hope to see more and more people wake up the lie that is religion and a denominational god and its insidious grip on the societal mores and constructs on which much of our society has been based and evolved from(evolved<>evolution, good words those).
Is existence evidence? The more science finds out the more obvious God becomes .
A concept? Sure.
Reality? No.
The only evidence you - or any other devoutly religiously person - can provide is that which is based on belief and/or faith. And that's fine, but belief and faith are not facts, nor are they scientific.
Hence my point - those who proclaim the existence of their god can not also claim to be about hard evidence and facts.
Over and above all of that, the real tragedy is that so much of our society as we know it is based on a complete crock of sh*t. As time goes on, I hope to see more and more people wake up the lie that is religion and a denominational god and its insidious grip on the societal mores and constructs on which much of our society has been based and evolved from(evolved<>evolution, good words those).
What about a computer robot rabbit?Our society has been based on love .. thank you Lord Jesus
We evolved to see God but what is happening now is ..as machines evolve humans are devolving .
Science is great but it has nothing to do with whether there is a God or not.
There is stuff and it’s motion .. that is all science keeps telling us and we have always known that.
Start thinking like a human and not a rabbit or computer.
I agree with the post, but you'd do better directing this at indoistriku.Religious morality is not morality at all, its obedience. Obedience to the word of God. Religious morality is psychopathic in that sense. Empathy does not enter into it. What is and what is not moral is just whatever the authority figure says. Someone who is incapable of empathy is a psychopath.
If your a soldier and I'm your superior and I say kill that 12 year old girl's father, mother, brothers and older sisters but keep her alive so you can rape her, you would be horrified. But in Numbers 31 Moses orders the Israelites to do exactly this. So if you do get your morality from religion you are a psychopath who has no moral compass beyond doing whatever you are told whether good or evil, and if you ARE repulsed by the idea of rape, slavery, paedophilia and murder then your religious beliefs are redundant because you are not using them to make moral decisions.
Everyone chooses their morals, either directly or indirectly. Most Christians pick and choose among the commandments in the Bible --- it's no longer fashionable to stone people for gay sex or adultery, for example, and some of the most ardent Bible thumpers manage to ignore everything Jesus said about helping the poor or sick. While believers like you ignore verses where Jesus said you have material possessions and don't help the poor you cannot be my disciple. So you/us have clearly 'selected' the parts of Bible, which suits you/us (forever life, repentance, stoning gays blah blah). However, speaking for myself, as a non-religious Gnostic- I do not believe it is in my nature to hurt or harm others. It has been a long time (probably since my highschool years) that I have acted on a desire to inflict trouble on someone else. The process of becoming a responsible and self-sufficient adult has essentially settled me into a pattern of acting towards others the way I would like to be treated in those situations. Going back to what Buddha and Confucius said 'treat others how you want to be treated'.
Surely there have been situations in which I have unintentionally said or done something that caused someone else harm - but if and when I discover this I try to do the responsible thing and make it right.
You either have an "objective" system (according to you) that is obviously immoral, in that it authorizes slavery, commands babies to be killed, treats women as property, authorizes genocide, and so forth, you have what you consider to be a non-objective system in which slavery, killing babies, slaughtering entire peoples is wrong. Would you invite me (a non-believer) into your house for a drink? If yes, then you already have discarded verses which tells you not to allow the 'wicked' (unbelievers) into your house. No Christians i know of call Atheists wicked anymore. But both chritianity and Islam emphasizes how atheists are corrupted and you must not associate yourself with them. Clearly no one believes in this anymore. So you already are a non-believer, you just choose parts which fits you.
I'm not particularly point scoring here, ethics and morals are a very difficult problem for all of us but pretending belief in the Bible somehow solves the problem is a joke.
Any society based on christianity is based on death, not love. You behave in life to ensure a better afterlife; you marry and have children because it's what God would want you to do; you only have sex when and how he says, because you don't want to go to hell.Our society has been based on love .. thank you Lord Jesus
We evolved to see God but what is happening now is ..as machines evolve humans are devolving .
Science is great but it has nothing to do with whether there is a God or not.
There is stuff and it’s motion .. that is all science keeps telling us and we have always known that.
Start thinking like a human and not a rabbit or computer.
Don’t see how my previous post is that crazy, my high tech rabbit has more chance of existing in the not too distant future compared to evidence of their god.Its getting even more crazy in here
Death cult.Any society based on christianity is based on death, not love. You behave in life to ensure a better afterlife; you marry and have children because it's what God would want you to do; you only have sex when and how he says, because you don't want to go to hell.
Christianity's iconography is centred around the crucifix, the emblem of Jesus's suffering and his death.
No, wasn't referring to youDon’t see how my previous post is that crazy, my high tech rabbit has more chance of existing in the not too distant future compared to evidence of their god.
Or if you weren’t referring to me, I might go start working on my bunny lasered eyed assassin.
In fact the opposite occurs. There is less and less need for God.
Ahh, so you’d like to preorder my laser eyed, missile tailed thermo nuclear equipped bunny?No, wasn't referring to you