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Come on, yOu can and must do better than that. Just your own personal knowledge of people is irrelevant. Facts are facts. Just like you claiMing my knowledge of numbers of Christians would be biased by who I know.
I have a question for a christian.Come on, yOu can and must do better than that. Just your own personal knowledge of people is irrelevant. Facts are facts. Just like you claiMing my knowledge of numbers of Christians would be biased by who I know.
In what way, it’s clear to anyone without having been poisoned by, or freed by independent logic and reading that the Abrahamic cults are misogynistic and hateful toward the feminine.Wow Chelsea. You threw in the towel early.
As an allegorical tale, the story of Jesus is awesome. And yeah, I'm sure we could all learn from at least some of the teachings and apply them in our lives in a beneficial way.
But somewhere along the line, some greedy f***ers worked out how to use the big stick aspect to leverage religion to instil fear and use it to control the unwitting, sin riddled heathen masses(proud sin dwelling heathen here) for their own gain.
If the miraculous does happen and good bloke J-man does indeed return to the fray, I reckon it will be said greedy f***ers that actually get to spend eternity in the naughty corner. The other 5.5 billion will be mostly just fine.
And just imagine for a minute that he did come back - where would he end up? In a Psych ward - not even up for debate, so as I suggest he may have come back many times, but he hasn‘t as yet been able to get past the gatekeepers.As an allegorical tale, the story of Jesus is awesome. And yeah, I'm sure we could all learn from at least some of the teachings and apply them in our lives in a beneficial way.
But somewhere along the line, some greedy f***ers worked out how to use the big stick aspect to leverage religion to instil fear and use it to control the unwitting, sin riddled heathen masses(proud sin dwelling heathen here) for their own gain.
If the miraculous does happen and good bloke J-man does indeed return to the fray, I reckon it will be said greedy f***ers that actually get to spend eternity in the naughty corner. The other 5.5 billion will be mostly just fine.
Just your own personal knowledge of people is irrelevant. Facts are facts.
God decides who lives. Simple fact.
We know we will all die.
I can only assume that the fact I am still alive, God has not yet finished with me in this life. To each day, I am thankful, and that is how i start each day- a prayer of thanks.
There have always been doctors in some form, and this has EVOLVED in sophistication over the centuries.
Hitler was mid 50's when he suicided- not a long life. Eddie Jaku is over 100yo.
Second biggest landholder in the country behind WestfieldJust in Australia, it's estimated that the Catholic Church alone is worth 30 billion dollars ~
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/catholic-church-worth-$30-billion-investigation-finds/9422246#:~:text=Catholic Church national wealth estimated to be $30 billion, investigation finds,-The World Today
Yet in the above article, written three years ago, it is alleged that the CC in Victoria alone is worth 9 billion, yet claims it's worth is only 109 million(lol the real estate value alone would far surpass that).
Can you imagine how much the church is worth across the globe? The church/s, as a collective, have accumulated vast amounts of wealth and assets, all tax free, and have informed policy and practices in countless govts(see the pos running our country) and massive mega corps the world over yet professes to be about the down trodden and the poor. I don't disagree that they haven't positively impacted a lot of lives(and ruined many) but they could be doing much, much more.
How can they be taken seriously when they have, at their fingertips, the means and the resources to alleviate the suffering of 100s of millions the world over yet they continue to hoard and accumulate?(How about dispersing some of that wealth?). Answer - they cannot be taken seriously and they won't be going away any time soon but let's at least tax the bastards.
WTAF is wrong with "we don't know"?I contend that those who reject the existence of God are acting irrationally and illogically. How can creation exist if not for a Creator? If God didn't create the universe, who or what process did?
I already have. I am a nihilist. I have expounded upon it numerous times on these pages. Just because I'm a nihilist doesn't mean I don't have other interests in my life, and certainly doesn't mean I don't enjoy locking horns with people who aren't nihilists.Why don't the Renegades here get together and formulate their own manual of life, with instructions for life, and the explanation of how everything was formed and evolved, and how we get to today, and what the future holds.
You are sick of not getting your questions answered, surely by now you have the means to produce the definitive document, and like Elon Musk, we will allow regular updates...
I contend that those who reject the existence of God are acting irrationally and illogically. How can creation exist if not for a Creator? If God didn't create the universe, who or what process did?
A question for Christians.
How do you know when god is speaking to you?
Abhorrent or not, it's a fact. And if it's not God, how do you explain your statements? Are you pissed off about evolution gone awry? God allows this fallen world to have ups and downs, but you simply have no explanation, and hence nothing to be angry about because you're a non-believer.Your quote "God decides who lives. Simple fact" is truly abhorrent to me.
How do you reconcile that in 2018 there were nearly 3000 perinatal deaths in Australia.
Countless small children pass away from cancers, brain tumors etc. Your God decides this?
Had God finished with these infants?
How do you reconcile that God decides that murderers like Ivan Milat can live a long life and infants die?
If God is responsible for the creation of all things why do we have cancer, CAD, MS etc.??
typical edit.How ironic.
I must have caught Total Power's fat finger virus.I have a question for a christian.
What's with the sudden capitalization of some of the letters in this post? Are you lunging at those syllables?
We've already established that your concept of that word is a bit light-on.Abhorrent or not, it's a fact.
Abhorrent or not, it's a fact. And if it's not God, how do you explain your statements? Are you pissed off about evolution gone awry? God allows this fallen world to have ups and downs, but you simply have no explanation, and hence nothing to be angry about because you're a non-believer.
Can you answer these 4 questions in yes or no please.
1. Should i be killed for the sins/work of others?
2. During war, should children be killed?
3. Do you support stoning of adulterers? (mind you adultery according to the bible is also looking at a woman with lust)
4. Do you think me as an unbeliever is wicked at heart?
Please don't deflect with out of topic answers. I want to see where 'gods' objective morality stems from.
You think asking me will give you the answer?
1. Do you regard your future death as being killed for sin of others?
2. No. They should not, but I don't get off on wars either. I don't think young men should be killed for their country.
3. Not really. Archaic, out of date anyway, and not relevant to our times. Stoning is potentially lethal, and I am into keeping people alive, and I believe in forgiveness.
4. No. Not wicked, but you have succumbed to the detractors that have been around since Jesus walked on earth.
You make a sweeping statement that took all of 5 seconds to render it inaccurate. Good on you for your followup explanation. I accept that you know a lot more about Scandinavian issues than i do, but I also work with a Swede , and several Danes, and we have some excellent discussions about this.Christian verses are open to interpretations, in millions of different ways, Demographc facts on the other hand, aren't.
You clearly don't understand the system in scandnavian nations. In sweden you must register with the church if you have a passport, by law (repealed in 2014). My cousins son who was born in 2013 was registed with the church but my son who was born in 16, wasn't. My cousin will be counted as a luteran 'member' under national statistics. Same as denmark. In 2014 79.8% of danes were members of the evangelical lutheran state religion, Folkekirken, but only 2.4% say they attend weekly mass
One of the reasons why so many Swedes belong to the Church of Sweden is that up until 1991, nine years before the separation of church and state in Sweden, the church was in charge of keeping and maintaining the civil registry - which meant that if you were born and baptized here, you were automatically a member of the church. it's the exact same in Denmark and Finland too. Norway is different. They are flat out atheists.
I will grant that many of those non-Chrisitan swedes don't call themselves atheists as they hate 'tags' to their names, they say, they simply don't care about any fairy tales/gods or existence of paranormal. Etc. But they are NOT christians nor they are religious. I have no issues with spiritual people (Myself being one) however Xtians/Muslims, they are NOT.
See here
An atheist advertising campaign in Denmark is proving extremely effective
'We’re pleased that Danes have taken the opportunity to express what they actually want,' says chairman of the Danish Atheist Societywww.independent.co.uk
All Danish citizens automatically become members of the Church of Denmark when they are baptised and can withdraw by written application to their parish office or by joining another faith.
Most people don't bother to withdraw, like i am Registered with the Lutheran Church in Umea in Sweden, so technically, i am a Christian! I live in eastern europe now, i can't be bothered going to Umea, filing applications, filing petitions, then appearing in Umea in person! etc..why would i waste my time???
You should be more intelligent than blindly copy pasting stuff
You should research more before copy paste something, i am telling ya society here is atheist, all of them, very few exceptions.
You make a sweeping statement that took all of 5 seconds to render it inaccurate. Good on you for your followup explanation. I accept that you know a lot more about Scandinavian issues than i do, but I also work with a Swede , and several Danes, and we have some excellent discussions about this.
We all look at issues that have been described in the OT and think how good it is that God does not need to teach lessons like those anymore. But I certainly believe that if He did those acts, He had good reason to do so, and I am not questioning a Creator about His motives, which I know you think you have some right to do so. You either believe He is God and accept His judgements and work, or you are a non-believer and go your own way, as a conscientious objector. Your choice.Natural death. God in the Bible killed children for the sin of their fatherr/family memebers. I assume you don't support this?
Thanks, you already have a better sense of morality than your God.
So barbaric practices hey? ironic your God with objective morality acted the same way the barbarians did 2,000 years ago.
It's called free-will and freedom of thought, which you claim your god allows however sends people to eternal damnation for it. How ironic you think you are a special bunch that 5.5 billion people going to hell for this? On the other hand as much as i hate religion i don't wish to torture or punish anyone for their beliefs. That makes me much better than your god already. Loving/Kind/Merciful, please!
You already disbelieve in the Bible, you just choose parts you choose to believe and fits your belief system.
But she is one of the happiest people in the world, living in Sweden, where nearly all people are atheists. I read your point.So if you work with them you don't know about this? My wife calls herself a non-practicing Christian (she's swedish), yet i have never seen her pray, read the bible, attend mass, repent or anything. It's more like a fashion statement. Look up on the stats, sweden has about 5% praciticing Christian.