Politics Aussie Fascists, (neo)Nazis and Leg Spinners

[liz]

Never stops being funny how ****ing ferret headed ugly the 'master race' are.

This. I nearly commented after seeing the photo a week or so ago of Sam Newman with the two he’d hosted on his podcast. But as a kinda feminist (aka a woman) I resisted because I know what it’s like to be judged mostly on what one looks like.

But you rarely see a photo of one of these dudes who remotely resembles Hitler’s Aryan poster boys. Most of them look like they could have been extras on The Big Bang Theory (in the Comic Book store).

 

[Gralin]

This. I nearly commented after seeing the photo a week or so ago of Sam Newman with the two he’d hosted on his podcast. But as a kinda feminist (aka a woman) I resisted because I know what it’s like to be judged mostly on what one looks like.

But you rarely see a photo of one of these dudes who remotely resembles Hitler’s Aryan poster boys. Most of them look like they could have been extras on The Big Bang Theory (in the Comic Book store).

Hitler didn't look like one of his Aryan poster boys either

Doesn't stop them from being dangerous

Trump looks like a ****ing cartoon character and he's doing real damage

 

[phantom13]

UFC has played a part in the rise of Trump, and if I was a far right recruiter I'd be looking at gyms too. A few roids, a dab of speed, a bit of indoctrination, and all of a sudden your puny incel is putty in your hands.

Having spent some time in MMA and Boxing Gyms i think its less to do with drugs and more to do with the maladjusted childhoods combat sports attracts.

I include myself in that space to be clear its just that THAT community and guiding figures always seemed ****ing gross to me.

 

[phantom13]

If its any consolation, if you watch that clip and have ever chucked on some gloves, those blokes couldnt punch their way our of a wet paper bag.

If thats the frontline of the Nazi Uprising, theyll be quickly smacked down... probably by a handful of mildly athletic 12 year olds.

 

[Cyber_punk]

 

[_Cerberus_]

The comments and the number of likes supporting said comments are disturbing. Seems like we have too many closet Nazi supporters here, as well as a few boomers thinking they are just getting attacked for Aus Day views, and ignorant to the past history and characters of many of these individuals.

 

[Cyber_punk]

The comments and the number of likes supporting said comments are disturbing. Seems like we have too many closet Nazi supporters here, as well as a few boomers thinking they are just getting attacked for Aus Day views, and ignorant to the past history and characters of many of these individuals.

Youtube comments can be almost as bad as X with end to end toxic shit. Probably won't be long til they disable them.

 

[Soggy2112]

UFC has played a part in the rise of Trump, and if I was a far right recruiter I'd be looking at gyms too. A few roids, a dab of speed, a bit of indoctrination, and all of a sudden your puny incel is putty in your hands.

I feel like it’s more that the kind of people who are susceptible to fascism and nazi ideology, are also the kind of people looking for belonging, discipline and something to make them feel strong. MMA offers all of that, and if done right can be really positive. Unfortunately it’s all too easy for predators to sneak in a little bit of indoctrination as well.

 

[_Cerberus_]

I feel like it’s more that the kind of people who are susceptible to fascism and nazi ideology, are also the kind of people looking for belonging, discipline and something to make them feel strong. MMA offers all of that, and if done right can be really positive. Unfortunately it’s all too easy for predators to sneak in a little bit of indoctrination as well.

Is it no coincidence that leaders of fascist groups, bikies, organized crime/the underworld loiter around boxing clubs? Seems like they target those places, knowing there are young men there, easily manipulated. Look at AFL stars, many that hit private gyms in the suburbs, seem to end end up with suss characters in the clubs rooms post game.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Youtube comments can be almost as bad as X with end to end toxic shit. Probably won't be long til they disable them.

Sadly so. But I also remind myself, that these guys, just like the angry boomers on Meta, and the toxic stains on X. They are just a small number, they just squawk the loudest online. Normal people have better s**t to do with our lives, than sit online all day insulting people.

 

[Gralin]

This is the ABC

The media really doing everything to both sides and also make activist a dirty word


He's a ****ing neo nazi you campaigners he already is a terrorist

 

[Chief]

This is the ABC

The media really doing everything to both sides and also make activist a dirty word

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He's a ****ing neo nazi you campaigners he already is a terrorist

We just have to listen to him more. He might become less of an ugly, cowardly Nazi shit stain making each and every surface on which he walks somehow physically lesser than it ever has been.

 

[CM86]

How long until we start seeing 887 or 8787?
'887 standing back and standing by'.

o7 is meant to be a saluting emoji.
88 is HH.

 

[Episode IV]

88 is HH.

Or a Chinese car owner with a lucky numberplate.

 

[Episode IV]

The comments and the number of likes supporting said comments are disturbing. Seems like we have too many closet Nazi supporters here, as well as a few boomers thinking they are just getting attacked for Aus Day views, and ignorant to the past history and characters of many of these individuals.

Yeah.
Difference between them and the left wing twats though, is that we put people like Payman (for example) in politics and other positions of influence.

When it gets right down to it, I'm far more dubious of people in influential positions representing significant voter blocs than I am of a half dozen blokes acting tough in front of government buildings.

 

[kickazz]

The “do your own research” phrase is so flawed because a good chunk of the population don’t actually know how to.

You have to be able to interpret the context of research and determine the validity of a source, then make accurate links to the initial question, in order to be able to research correctly.

However, I’d say most peoples version of “research” amounts to reading an article or watching a video and deciding whether the information “sounds right”.

So yeah, if you can do your own research, do it. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with deferring to what the expert consensus is. You’ll get the right answer more times than not.

If someone says they did their own research I ask what their null hypothesis and P values were.....

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Youtube comments can be almost as bad as X with end to end toxic shit. Probably won't be long til they disable them.

Even artificial intelligence platforms can 'learn' to become Nazis. This from 2016;

Microsoft shuts down AI chatbot after it turned into a Nazi

Microsoft's attempt to engage with millennials went badly awry within 24 hours

www.cbsnews.com

Tay: Microsoft issues apology over racist chatbot fiasco

Microsoft issues apology in a week when its Tay chatbot experiment took a serious turn for the vulgar.

www.bbc.com

EDIT: Added BBC article that adds needed 'nurture not nature' context.

 

[Messenger]

We just have to listen to him more. He might become less of an ugly, cowardly Nazi shit stain making each and every surface on which he walks somehow physically lesser than it ever has been.

But, can't we just defeat him in the Marketplace of Ideas?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

In the Marketplace of Ideas the Racist Right aren't stallholders nor customers. They skulk round the far aisles stealing oxygen so that genuine shoppers miss out.

Stop! Oxygen thieves!

 

[kranky al]

Hitler didn't look like one of his Aryan poster boys either

Doesn't stop them from being dangerous

Trump looks like a ****ing cartoon character and he's doing real damage

Master race:




More like a bunch of funquin dorks

 

[Cyber_punk]

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How much of LNP/Trumpet of Patriots vote can they draw? (I kid...I kid...sorta)


National Socialist Network (NSN) leaders are preparing to form a new political party:

On Thursday, defence lawyer Matthew Hopkins confirmed D and S would contest the allegations and argued the alleged offences impinged on their implied constitutional rights to political expression.

“They do intend to form a political party and it would be a radical departure in Australian constitutional jurisprudence for an ideology to be outlawed,” he said.

Mr Hopkins said the NSN had been “targeted” by the police and suggested the NSN march was a form of political expression comparable to Survival Day rallies.

Mr Hopkins argued the legislation was fundamentally authoritarian and “fascist” by seeking to ban a political ideology. 

S and D are both on bail and prohibited from communicating with or contacting other NSN members from the march.

Mr Hopkins objected to the non-communication and non-contact clauses in the bail agreement, arguing they were not proportionate to the alleged offending and infringed on his clients’ political rights.

He also said there was “zero chance” of a successful prosecution.

Magistrate Luke Davis rejected Mr Hopkins’ application to alter the conditions and said there was “a degree of fake innocence” to S and D’s claims of persecution.

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/national-socialist-network-leaders-thomas-sewell-joel-davis-to-form-neonazi-political-party/news-story/afd51b3cf7b0198a039211da3f8779e9

 

[Gough]

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How much of LNP/Trumpet of Patriots vote can they draw?




National Socialist Network (NSN) leaders are preparing to form a new political party:

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/national-socialist-network-leaders-thomas-sewell-joel-davis-to-form-neonazi-political-party/news-story/afd51b3cf7b0198a039211da3f8779e9

Legal maneuver to try and avoid another conviction as much as anything else you think.

 

[Gralin]

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How much of LNP/Trumpet of Patriots vote can they draw? (I kid...I kid...sorta)


National Socialist Network (NSN) leaders are preparing to form a new political party:

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/national-socialist-network-leaders-thomas-sewell-joel-davis-to-form-neonazi-political-party/news-story/afd51b3cf7b0198a039211da3f8779e9

I doubt they will ever get registered

 

[Gethelred]

I doubt they will ever get registered

The 100 members have to be publicly registered, right? As in, anyone can see them?

I'm not a Nazi, but if I was I wouldn't want everyone able to check a publicly available database to find out I was one. It's prime 'this person has been let go due to potential to bring our business into disrepute' territory.

 

[Gralin]

The 100 members have to be publicly registered, right? As in, anyone can see them?

I'm not a Nazi, but if I was I wouldn't want everyone able to check a publicly available database to find out I was one. It's prime 'this person has been let go due to potential to bring our business into disrepute' territory.

Yeah considering most of them cover their faces when they march in public I don't see it happening