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Now that we've got Clark, I'd like to package up Bate and Fitzpatrick (Spencer), in order to get a decent 2nd round pick (low 20's).

I like Bate, but unless he can play as a midfielder, his role is redundant. I don't rate either Fitzpatrick or Spencer, but maybe a GWS or Hawthorn would be interested in a backup ruckman.
 

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Non-first 22 players at our club have 0 currency, Bate included. They are more valuable to us than a pick in the 40s or 50s would be.

We don't need those picks. i can see us only using 2 picks and upgrading a rookie.
 
I'd rather hang onto Maric now if possible. He'll have far more effect hanging around the feet of a player like Clark. I reckon there's a bit of tip rat about him. Need to convince him he'll get more game time though.

I like Bate, but Bailey's wasted him and now he's desperate to get out. Fair enough. Get a pick for him, Dogs have nothing else to offer.
 
Non-first 22 players at our club have 0 currency, Bate included. They are more valuable to us than a pick in the 40s or 50s would be.

We don't need those picks. i can see us only using 2 picks and upgrading a rookie.
Which rookie? We don't have any rookies worth upgrading. Now that we've lost pick 12 another second round pick will be useful. We've got plenty of depth in the mid size forward position and I really don't think Bate will make it as a midfielder. Maric might be worth keeping due to the lack of depth we have in crumbers.
 
This rookie.

Save the delistings and trades for next year when we will need the list space.

What's the point though? Nicho signed a rookie extension mid year and we can nominate him to play from round one as a nominated rookie if we want. So in effect we'd be using a draft pick on a player we already have and then using a rookie draft pick on a random. So we basically move back the draft order 60+ spots...
 
The thing about Maric is that his kicking at goal is probably on a par at our club with Sylvia, Jamar and Watts.

Therefore all he needs to do is stand inside 50 and get the ball 5 times when it hits the ground, before having a ping. Even better if he can take 2-3 marks and go into the midfield a bit. Simple enough.
 
So you would rather upgrade him next year when we have 3 first rounders in an uncompromised and much deeper draft.

We need to use 3 draft picks this year at the moment that is 36, 54 and 72.

Do you want us to take a player with 72?
 

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So you would rather upgrade him next year when we have 3 first rounders in an uncompromised and much deeper draft.

We need to use 3 draft picks this year at the moment that is 36, 54 and 72.

Do you want us to take a player with 72?

Exactly. I think we should take the second round pick from the Dogs for Bate. That will give us 2 picks in the 30's and 1 in the 50's, not bad considering we traded in Clark as well. And if we can't get a trade done for Warnock, we delist him and keep Maric.

I'd like to see us draft 2 midfielders and a small forward with our 3 picks. I think we have enough talls on our list now with Clark coming in. Crumbing forward and 2 quick mids would finish off our list of needs I reckon. With Viney coming in next year and potentially 2 other first round picks, we are in really good shape moving forward...
 
The thing about Maric is that his kicking at goal is probably on a par at our club with Sylvia, Jamar and Watts.

Therefore all he needs to do is stand inside 50 and get the ball 5 times when it hits the ground, before having a ping. Even better if he can take 2-3 marks and go into the midfield a bit. Simple enough.

Please esplain? How can Maric's kicking for goal be all of: good, terribad, and excellent?

I don't follow this post at all Gazza...
 
Please esplain? How can Maric's kicking for goal be all of: good, terribad, and excellent?

I don't follow this post at all Gazza...

I think he meant kicking as in set shots for goal. I agree that Maric is excellent in this department, not sure how the Russian got in though... Not an amazing kick to say the least.
 
I hope we can offload at least 1 of these guys, 2 of them would be nice!

I do feel bad for Maric & Warnock, deserve second chances. All of these three are limited players, here's hoping we move them on!
 
So you would rather upgrade him next year when we have 3 first rounders in an uncompromised and much deeper draft.

We need to use 3 draft picks this year at the moment that is 36, 54 and 72.

Do you want us to take a player with 72?
No point trying to be smart and outdoing yourself. If you think Bate for 39 is a great deal, and I do, then we may as well go for it. I'd trade Bate for 39 and use 36, 39 and 54 and delist Warnock and one of Maric (unless we trade for pick better than 50), Wona or Macdonald.

Then delist a few rookies - Newton, Campbell, McNamara, Johnston. We will have 4 new rookies along with the promising but not fully convincing Evans, Nicholson and Lawrence. So yes hopefully we will have strong rookies to upgrade but that's ok.

They'll be plenty to delist next year - Green may retire and Macdonald, Bartram, Spencer, Dunn, Fitzpatrick, Jetta, Wona all come to mind as possibles.
 
I think he meant kicking as in set shots for goal. I agree that Maric is excellent in this department, not sure how the Russian got in though... Not an amazing kick to say the least.

I'm pretty sure there was a stat somewhere that had Jamar and Sylvia as two of the best set-shots on goal in the competition. Likely that memory fails me. Probably should have had Jurrah in there too.
 

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I'm pretty sure there was a stat somewhere that had Jamar and Sylvia as two of the best set-shots on goal in the competition. Likely that memory fails me. Probably should have had Jurrah in there too.
There was one Hun article IIRC about some fancy stat that had Jurrah as one of the best two or three kicks in the competition.
 
No point trying to be smart and outdoing yourself. If you think Bate for 39 is a great deal, and I do, then we may as well go for it. I'd trade Bate for 39 and use 36, 39 and 54 and delist Warnock and one of Maric (unless we trade for pick better than 50), Wona or Macdonald.

Then delist a few rookies - Newton, Campbell, McNamara, Johnston. We will have 4 new rookies along with the promising but not fully convincing Evans, Nicholson and Lawrence. So yes hopefully we will have strong rookies to upgrade but that's ok.

They'll be plenty to delist next year - Green may retire and Macdonald, Bartram, Spencer, Dunn, Fitzpatrick, Jetta, Wona all come to mind as possibles.

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I was saying i want to keep Bate on the list.
 

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