Battlefield 3

[Murraj1966]

Well, we've gotten some info about it now, and as a conversation starter, i'd like to happily point out that for once the console players are getting shafted and the PC is getting the most out of this.

Bout damn time.

This is also a general discussion

 

[HBK619]

Well, we've gotten some info about it now, and as a conversation starter, i'd like to happily point out that for once the console players are getting shafted and the PC is getting the most out of this.

Bout damn time.

This is also a general discussion

Why don't you post some of that info then...?

 

[Murraj1966]

Well from the Battlefield 3 twitter, and from the general release, it's said that the PC is getting 64 Players and jets, whereas the console version only has 24 players and no jets, making the console version more like a Bad Company 3.

And on Joystiq there is a teaser trailer.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/04/battlefield-3-targeting-fall-2011-teaser-trailer-out-now/

 

[Premiers04]

Will get this over the next CoD

 

[Murraj1966]

This will dump all over the next CoD.

Cod is pure rehashes over and over again, we haven't had a traditional Battlefield game since BF2, or 2142 if you consider that traditional.

 

[LionMen]

I seriously don't get why people love pc gaming so much, "look im clicking my mouse and shooting" Controls with a keyboard and mouse are frustrating.

 

[Murraj1966]

I seriously don't get why people love pc gaming so much, "look im clicking my mouse and shooting" Controls with a keyboard and mouse are frustrating.

Look i'm pressing a shoulder button and shooting?

PC controls are far easier, and people like PC gaming for the better power, graphics and community. The only reason more people don't use it is because it's harder to set up than the usual Xbox/PS3.

In terms of BF3, the reason i'm happy for PC is because the threat was that a great PC game from the past would have it's future versions on PC dumbed down for the Consoles and their weaker technology. Thankfully it hasn't been.

Before you say I'm biased though, I own both a 360 and a gaming PC

 

[FGMPR]

I seriously don't get why people love pc gaming so much, "look im clicking my mouse and shooting" Controls with a keyboard and mouse are frustrating.

Because the controls are much, much more accurate, which leads to a higher skill ceiling. Also, gamers on PC generally play as a team much more effectively than on console. Not too mention things like better graphics, mods, dedicated servers (a lot more of them, anyhow), cheaper games via DD, or in the case of BF3, almost 3 times the player count, larger maps and jets.

Why wouldn't you play this game on PC if you had the choice?

 

[LionMen]

Look i'm pressing a shoulder button and shooting?

PC controls are far easier, and people like PC gaming for the better power, graphics and community. The only reason more people don't use it is because it's harder to set up than the usual Xbox/PS3.

In terms of BF3, the reason i'm happy for PC is because the threat was that a great PC game from the past would have it's future versions on PC dumbed down for the Consoles and their weaker technology. Thankfully it hasn't been.

Before you say I'm biased though, I own both a 360 and a gaming PC

Ok I admit, I haven't played many PC games but I did play Halo 2 a lot and I found the controls were too far apart. I had to take a finger of the moving buttons to change weapon or reload. Maybe I'm just not used to it. Don't take my comment as hate for the pc Community was really tired when I wrote that.

 

[pinkus maximus]

the main reason why I don't game on a PC is because they seem way too complicated to me. I'm probably one of the few Gen yers who's a complete technophobe. I know how to turn a PC on and click on the internet. That's my basic understanding of them

Console's are nice and convenient for me

 

[caMoGFC]

Because the controls are much, much more accurate, which leads to a higher skill ceiling. Also, gamers on PC generally play as a team much more effectively than on console. Not too mention things like better graphics, mods, dedicated servers (a lot more of them, anyhow), cheaper games via DD, or in the case of BF3, almost 3 times the player count, larger maps and jets.

Why wouldn't you play this game on PC if you had the choice?

it's so true.

i just simply can't stand the keyboard!

 

[FGMPR]

The convenience of console's is easily their biggest asset, and I can certainly see why people would prefer to play on the couch, with a controller (which you can also do on PC, but would be suicide in multi-player matches). Obviously though, with the consoles being 5 year old hardware and MS/Sony's heavy bandwidth caps, they are only capable of so much, so I hope console only players understand why BF3 is going to be so cut back instead of complaining about DICE.

I was convinced that this would be BC3. I'm happy that it seems that this is not the case.

 

[FGMPR]

it's so true.

i just simply can't stand the keyboard!

You should see my FPS skills on a gamepad
I avoid multi-player FPS gaming on my PS3 because I'm so bad with it.

 

[Slash_LP]

ugh...

Am I the only one that would take a bit of a hit in the graphics department to get 16 vs 16 matches?

 

[FGMPR]

ugh...

Am I the only one that would take a bit of a hit in the graphics department to get 16 vs 16 matches?

It's the bandwidth that's the problem. MS and Sony require online games to be able to run on 512k connections, which limit's how much can be sent to the user at one time. Destruction and vehicles all take up huge chunks of this bandwidth, so the choice DICE had to make wasn't so much graphics vs player count, it was destruction vs player count.

Limited RAM would have likely been the other big issue, but they never even got to that point because of the first problem.

 

[Slash_LP]

It's the bandwidth that's the problem. MS and Sony require online games to be able to run on 512k connections, which limit's how much can be sent to the user at one time. Destruction and vehicles all take up huge chunks of this bandwidth, so the choice DICE had to make wasn't so much graphics vs player count, it was destruction vs player count.

Limited RAM would have likely been the other big issue, but they never even got to that point because of the first problem.

I'm aware of the problem with the bandwidth and how destruction and vehicles take up quite a bit of it. Still the detailed textures would take up a bit of bandwidth, downgrading them a bit would allow for (slightly) larger teams.

 

[FGMPR]

I'm aware of the problem with the bandwidth and how destruction and vehicles take up quite a bit of it. Still the detailed textures would take up a bit of bandwidth, downgrading them a bit would allow for (slightly) larger teams.

Textures are all rendered locally though. Nothing is sent other than the movement of the player model. It wouldn't free up any bandwidth.

 

[Slash_LP]

Textures are all rendered locally though. Nothing is sent other than the movement of the player model. It wouldn't free up any bandwidth.

Well that shows how much I know about game development. Is there anything else that could free up bandwidth other than destruction/vehicles?

 

[FGMPR]

Well that shows how much I know about game development. Is there anything else that could free up bandwidth other than destruction/vehicles?

No, not really. At least not that I can think of.

 

[Sir_Ingram]

Looking forward to this a lot. Been playing Bad Company 2 heaps lately, after playing it when it was released and then not for over 6 months. So much better then the CoD's of late

 

[Gold Member]

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[Glenno23]

This game is the cover and main story for Feb's issue of Game Informer

The article on Skyrim (Jan issue), held a lot of info, so would be expecting the same with this

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

That's probably the most pointless teaser trailer I've ever seen. May as well of been an animated gif.

 

[scooterb]

Will have to upgrade my PC by the end of the year... looks absolutely epic.

HNNNNNNNNG

 

[Bombertastic]

Well from the Battlefield 3 twitter, and from the general release, it's said that the PC is getting 64 Players and jets, whereas the console version only has 24 players and no jets, making the console version more like a Bad Company 3.

And on Joystiq there is a teaser trailer.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/04/battlefield-3-targeting-fall-2011-teaser-trailer-out-now/

Since when did PC players ever get shafted? BF2 was the same. No jets on console but PC had them.

Anyway PC's aren't for gaming. They were made to look at the internet and write letters to each other. Now they're for forums, twitter, facebook and youtube. Get it on console.