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Re: Richmond Decide to take Cousins

you are quite right Brasil Boy- Its on our boards, but it certainly didnt gain the notoriety (spelling?) it should have...
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

Problem with taking Cousins? Forget about the risk of him re-offending. If you believe the press, the Tigers have absolutely no fat left in the budget. So when Nathan Foley, Trent Cotchin, a mercenary like Nathan Brown or whoever come to renegotiate their contracts, what will it mean?
 
Re: Richmond Decide to take Cousins

Best case scenario: Cousins plays well, teaches guys like Newman, Delidio, Reiwoldt how to be a real leader (unlike the losers we have now/had in the past 25 years).

Worst case scenario: He gets caught for drugs, atleast teaches the kids a few things. We get more members, we don't have to pay him anything and we just continue with the list we would have had anyway.
 

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Re: Richmond Decide to take Cousins

That is true, and goes to show why the public and media commentators are so concerned about the Cousins issue. Its not because they feel sorry for a recovered drug addict and want to give someone a second chance. It is because Cousins is a champion footballer, pure and simple. That is the only reason anyone cares. If it was John Doe in the same situation, people would be stepping over him in the street without a care in the world.

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Change John Doe to Laurence Angwin

Regardless - I still love Cuzzy Bro - bring on Rd 22 for his welcome home to WA
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

Think hard. Fifteen clubs managed to work it out.


good on the tiges for taking him on, power to the real footy people who wanna see class and not listen to or watch all this 'days of our lives' crap, plenty here on BF dont sound like fans of the game itself, prob never picked up a sherrin in their life, they gotta get off the internet more often, stuff the media, stuff the champagne sipping execs, stuff the afl and their buisness agenda, stuff bigfooty heros etc, geez I miss the days when footy was all about footy, and no one can deny the boy can play...
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

good on the tiges for taking him on, power to the real footy people who wanna see class and not listen to or watch all this 'days of our lives' crap, plenty here on BF dont sound like fans of the game itself, prob never picked up a sherrin in their life, they gotta get off the internet more often, stuff the media, stuff the champagne sipping execs, stuff the afl and their buisness agenda, stuff bigfooty heros etc, geez I miss the days when footy was all about footy, and no one can deny the boy can play...

If he could stay drug free and injury free every team would have jumped him.
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

good on the tiges for taking him on, power to the real footy people who wanna see class and not listen to or watch all this 'days of our lives' crap, plenty here on BF dont sound like fans of the game itself, prob never picked up a sherrin in their life, they gotta get off the internet more often, stuff the media, stuff the champagne sipping execs, stuff the afl and their buisness agenda, stuff bigfooty heros etc, geez I miss the days when footy was all about footy, and no one can deny the boy can play...
Post of the thread. :thumbsu:

If Ben drops the ball the AFL deregisters him. Many people expect that this is what will happen anyway (many of you obviously believe this too, based upon your posts in this thread) so how does it reflect poorly on the club? There's no downside here. We might get to see Cuzz play again, and we all know how good he is / was.

The only stakeholder with anything to lose is Ben. I'm crossing my fingers that he takes advantage of the opportunity.
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

If he could stay drug free and injury free every team would have jumped him.


I dont give a rats arse about any of that to be honest, as far as watching a game of football goes!
 

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Re: Problem with taking cousins?

The only stakeholder with anything to lose is Ben. I'm crossing my fingers that he takes advantage of the opportunity.

What about the circus he brings(He has he own film crew to boot)? Sure it's good for money but if I remember correctly Ben Cousins had a few friends at West Coast that went down the drain with him. He's a very charismatic person.
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

What about the circus he brings(He has he own film crew to boot)? Sure it's good for money but if I remember correctly Ben Cousins had a few friends at West Coast that went down the drain with him. He's a very charismatic person.
Some people are more willing to accept risk than others. If you don't believe the upside outweighs the downside you don't draft him. Richmond obviously believes it does, and is prepared to accept the risk. As a supporter I'm happy about it - I would have taken the risk as well. Honestly, I don't think any of us give the proverbial about what every other club's supporters think.

Obviously there will be unhappy Tigers out there, but you can't please all of the people all of the time!
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

Decision makers at clubs can't be as fickle as us supporters.


its not fickle to supporters of the game, its all about the footy to them, decision makers are thinking from buisness angles, Im not!
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

If you don't believe the upside outweighs the downside you don't draft him. Richmond obviously believes it does,

Plan A - Get Polak down-graded, gain extra pick and draft youngster and Cousins.
Plan B - If rejected get youngster.
Plan C - If mobbed with threats of tearing up members and dropping manure pick Cousins - but only if Rockcliff is already picked.
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

its not fickle to supporters of the game, its all about the footy to them, decision makers are thinking from buisness angles, Im not!

I'm not just talking about the guys that worry about the dollar. I'm talking about the guys that are paid to get Richmond a premiership. Coaches and the football department. They have to make the decisions. They know better then the average punter - well at least they should or they should be over thrown at the next meeting.

In fact I'd go as far as saying that going from 'Very unlikely' 24 hours ago to where we are know should be the biggest indicator that the Richmond administrators are making it up as they go. Even if you're a Richmond supporter that is stoked you have Cousins you have to admit your administration back-flipping like Jordan McMahon signing a new contract is more than a good enough reason to vote for a 'no confidence' in the football department.
 

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Re: Problem with taking cousins?

I'm not just talking about the guys that worry about the dollar. I'm talking about the guys that are paid to get Richmond a premiership. Coaches and the football department. They have to make the decisions. They know better then the average punter - well at least they should or they should be over thrown at the next meeting.


So who in the above mentioned departments arent behind this decision?
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

Even if you're a Richmond supporter that is stoked you have Cousins you have to admit your administration back-flipping like Jordan McMahon signing a new contract is more than a good enough reason to vote for a 'no confidence' in the football department.
Or this was all simply a very successful ploy to get the club an enormous amount of publicity to convince potential sponsors to shell out some cash ;)

Perhaps we were always going to take Ben?
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

The fact that they basically said they weren't going to take him 24 hours ago.

whos they mate?

wasnt the players, wasnt the coach, wasnt the supporters,they are all that matter to me, so who are you talking about?
 
Re: Problem with taking cousins?

whos they mate?

wasnt the players, wasnt the coach, wasnt the supporters,they are all that matter to me, so who are you talking about?

Umm It was the guy who represented the entire club and the decision that the football department had come to. It wouldn't surprise me though if they didn't tell him what was going on though, sounds like something a dysfunctional football administration would do.
 

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